Papa dili mohatag ug saktong allotment para kang Mama

[babygin2005]

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Nice discussion coz we have Seaman, OFW and families here....lets up for this.

Mam snowfly..ask lang ko bah, dili ba lain kung mangayo ta ug contract sa atong husband? Dili ba kaha makaingun sya nga segurista ko? Or madudahun ko kay ni ask man ko sa iyang contract? Padung pa ako husband musakay. Unsa diay mga reasons nganu mu ask contract ang wife? Tnx much!!

[Queen Mojitos]

ambot lang pod aning mama wui maski kadaghan na gibuhat ni papa sa iyaha dawaton lang gihapon niya hahayyy paeta oiee

[Snowfly]

Mam snowfly..ask lang ko bah, dili ba lain kung mangayo ta ug contract sa atong husband? Dili ba kaha makaingun sya nga segurista ko? Or madudahun ko kay ni ask man ko sa iyang contract? Padung pa ako husband musakay. Unsa diay mga reasons nganu mu ask contract ang wife? Tnx much!!

Hi babygin2005, yours is a very good question that every OFW and their families should ought to know and it will also apply to Landbase/ working locally..
It is a must to have a copy of the employment contract and put it under lock and key together w/ other important documents and valuables Why? Because when things go wrong (God forbids) you are already armed w/ these documents when asked to submit.How do we know our rights if we do not have any access to it?

Through that Employment Contract one can complain if he/she is underpaid or not paid what he is due, for loan purposes since its needed by the bank, in claiming the death benefits, etc.etc.

I have a friend who did not receive any allotment ever since his husband left, another was a neighbor who's son died abroad, when they complained at the POEA, they were asked for his employment contract but cannot produce even a photocopy of it.Why go the hard way, when we can be a Girl Scout - Laging Handa!!! (hehehe)

Whats wrong with asking a copy of it? afterall you are the legal wife, should anything goes wrong, ikaw man gihapon ang ma affected and or mo asikaso ana in his absence.

Established Shipping Agencies require the signature of the legal wife or parent if still single to sign the allotment slip detailing the breakdown of agreed salary before they process the Seaman's documents. Why will he get mad if he has no skeletons under his closet? Therefore, I suggest you insist that you have a copy of it.

[tenda]

you are very correct madam snow! if married, dapat naa gyud copy of contract ibilin sa spouse.
if single dapat naa gyud docs ibilin sa parents/sibling for safekeeping.

[BM1984]

let me share 3 scenarios regarding allotment:
1.) my husband is a seaman...from his basic salary I only get 65% then the 35% for his biological family. I respect the sharing because after all it is my husband's earning so siya magbuot how to divide it. What is important to me is my husband and I should be transparent about how much we earn individually and then we should be responsible in our spending. Pero maski 65% ra ko sa basic...every now and then ga special allotment man ako bana...so labaw sa 100% sa basic ra gihapon ako madawat. In fact maski bf-gf pa namo na time, he already left to me his self-allotment ATM and I am proud enough to say up to the last centavo...liquidated nako tanan ang gipadungan sa iya allotment. Not an instance I took a penny from his money para gastoon for my personal expenditures. (the person who is doing the effort to earn has the biggest right to decide how he want his earning be spent...thus is this aspect a person's sense of responsibility and character would definitely matter.)

2.) i have a cousin who is married to a seaman. As in 100% allotment siya plus naa pa jud special allotment. after 2 sakay iya husband, gi-change na to 80% and wa na special allotment because wa nakatigom ako cousin kay medyo class ug lifestyle and daghan pud gisuportahan like iya parents and mga igsoon na walay trabaho. (lifestyle and proper financial handling skills is extremely needed para ang usa ka tawo saligan on money matters)

3.) i have an aunt na seaman ang husband. She only gets 80% of the basic so in short galisod jud intawon paigo sa allotment kay naa na college na student then naa pa 2 elementary. Luoy ako auntie kay deficit intawon monthly. So i told my aunt na he should request his husband for an increase and justify to his husband that the allotment could barely be enough for their expenses. So the couple talked about it and fortunately, nahuman ila prob. (it would also take to make an explanation to solve the issues)

[BM1984]

Mam snowfly..ask lang ko bah, dili ba lain kung mangayo ta ug contract sa atong husband? Dili ba kaha makaingun sya nga segurista ko? Or madudahun ko kay ni ask man ko sa iyang contract? Padung pa ako husband musakay. Unsa diay mga reasons nganu mu ask contract ang wife? Tnx much!!

react lang ko babygin ha...since seaman pud ako husband... asking for contract is very critical depending on how the situation is being understood... tinuod jud na u concern na basin madudahan na segurista because ako auntie wa jud na siya kita ug kontrata sa iya bana before molarga...anha na na siya makakita sa kontrata if mouli na. Medyo man pud gud di pud ganahan iya bana na pangayoan about ana kontrak kay maayo man kuno ug gipasagdan sila. So naa ra jud na sa open-mindedness sa usa ka tawo how he deals the situation. Di jud nato malikayan na naa jud uban tawo na di ganahan mo-tell how much they are earning. So in your case pwede ra gud nimo pamaraygan imo bana na mangayo ka copy sa iya contract but if medyo di kayo nindot iya reaction do not insist na lang pud. Naa ko kauban ko male officemate, all he tells to his wife is iya ra jud salary so any allowances and overtime pay iya na...his reason: kay kasagaran jud kuno sa asawa maayo kuno mokwenta so kung itug-an kuno tanan unsa na lang kuno magasto niya if mapasubo ug inum2x once in a while.

[Snowfly]

Marriage is a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners. It is also a commitment to love, respect and cherish till death do we part. One heart becomes one...etc.etc.

Re: Allotments or Salaries-
A husband and wife discussing about their income, finances and making budget and compromises is a healthy move in every couples. One cannot spend more than what he/she earns if both of them are aware of it....its no longer I or ME but this time its YOU & I , US and WE.
I dont see any reason why a husband or wife must hide their earnings to their spouses? Why Lie, why keep it a secret?.....for some hidden agenda? Money is the root of all evils, so they say....A lie cannot stand alone w/o the support of another lie...many more lies and it will cater misunderstandings, distrust for one another and eventually broken marriages.
Ive been married for 33 yrs.already and cards on the table kami in almost everything esp. money matters and it really worked for us. We go hand in hand to reach our goals/dreams.

[Snowfly]

Re: Contract and Allotments Slips-

Of course I should play safe? If we legal wives dont have the copy of his Contract and Allotment slip, it might be possible that the husband wrote someone else's name as his beneficiary? or someone is sharing w/ the allotments, etc.etc.

To me,,,,,Its not how much percent (%) or amount of money I received,,,,, but its the honesty that really matters.

[Fallen6]

hayz... all i can say is malouy ko nimo TS...
ingon ana pud amo ka agi sa ako mama ug manghud... namatay nlng tawon ako mama...
ambot lang ug naay kausaban ron...

if i were you, ipa investigate nah... you can ask a lawyer to create a request sa company's real payslip...
kay ang company if seaman ka kay dili na i declare tanan sa POEA para gamay ra sila tax ma bayran sa goberno. parehas sa amoa situation, ang naka declare ra sa contract is 1 or 2k dollars ra daw... pero pag ukay namo sa tanan almost $10k ang iya jud real salary nya ang madawat ra namo sa una is 40k ra, nagsa ra mo abot 100k... and then the worst thing happened nah kay na ukay na tanan2...

ayaw mo pa george2 TS. ipakita ninyo nga di mo kaya boangon ana inyo amahan kay most probably naa nay lain...

[Snowfly]

It pays to know the truth and assert our rights!