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  1. #11381

    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    Quote Originally Posted by wildfire1203 View Post
    ..Media are the medium of information.They only dissemanate information to the people.It's only the interpretation and perception sometimes differ with each other.defensive lang kaayo ka sa imong prensisa.
    yeah right, as if a proven thief... este plagiarist pala, can be trusted

  2. #11382

    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertCruz View Post
    yeah right, as if a proven thief... este plagiarist pala, can be trusted
    Ot:

    Don't be offended.I think you are GAY (Bayot).wala ka pul-i balik-balik sa imo statement against me?Hilig kaayo ka ma-mersonal.

  3. #11383

    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    Quote Originally Posted by wildfire1203 View Post
    Ot:

    Don't be offended.I think you are GAY (Bayot).wala ka pul-i balik-balik sa imo statement against me?Hilig kaayo ka ma-mersonal.
    hahaha. pareh ni Midas Touch

    Supreme Court Spokesperson Atty. Jose Midas P. Marquez is 100% GAY? [For fun only] - YouTube


  4. #11384

    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    Quote Originally Posted by PaYaSo View Post
    so you mean that she is really sick? what would be the time that i will believe in the media? when they say that she is innocent?

    i was told not to believe in the media specially those from ABias CBN and GMA
    I would hate to say that she's faking it but as spectators we are NOT in a position to confirm this. All we can do is see it from afar and it's up to us how we digest the information critically.

  5. #11385

    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    i see.

    so why do people say that the committee of the Supreme Court is biased towards Gloria ? The masses have been pounding on that since they gave that TOR.
    they have a reason to believe the SC is. after all, how the SC voted on the TRO itself gives one a pattern of where each justice's loyalties lie.

    reminded me of the "envelope" fiasco during the Estrada impeachment. no matter what they say, their actions belie their words.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

  6. #11386

    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    It's not in the defense of GMA at all. It's for the defense of jurisprudence. I'm gonna ask. If you become accused with crime, would you want everyone to assume your guilt even before the verdict? Would you want to be sent to prison without pleading your case? Mao gani naay due process mga bords. Basin mas pabor mu ug karaan nga delivery of verdict, kanang summary punishment, no trials? Pina Marcos style.
    I agree with this. Although you can't fault the public for assuming GMA is guilty. The media is disseminating information as if GMA has done an unforgivable crime, even to the point of specifically listing out all the "crimes" committed in her administration. This is similar to releasing the name and picture of a rape "suspect" before the person is charged with the crime.

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    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    Each day we discuss about this, the more i get irritated. Coz it's hard being outside of the philippines, it's an absolute different perspective for me; i see it more clearly that the philippines is going nowhere except down.

    When will this end ? The way i see things today, it's like madam Arroyo is still the president being tried for impeachment.

    i know you're very active on the political front fafi, how do you feel personally, with all this nonsense going around our country ?
    Where I'm at sad, this whole fiasco has made the Philippines a joke.

  8. #11388

    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    Each day we discuss about this, the more i get irritated. Coz it's hard being outside of the philippines, it's an absolute different perspective for me; i see it more clearly that the philippines is going nowhere except down.

    When will this end ? The way i see things today, it's like madam Arroyo is still the president being tried for impeachment.

    i know you're very active on the political front fafi, how do you feel personally, with all this nonsense going around our country ?
    my perspective has always been the usual. it has not changed and i do not see any reason for it to do so. as a matter of fact, every day seems to affirm and strengthen my conviction that i am seeing things at a better perspective.

    it is like this:

    • we have a factionated ruling class fighting against each other for a bigger share of everything.
    • they need to legitimize their rule via public opinion and elections, despite the fact that their interests runs counter to the broad masses.
    • they achieve this time and time again in different levels, not just via dole outs, patronage politics, but also on a deeper, more cultural level as explained by cultural hegemony
    • squabbles like the Arroyo vs. Aquino showdown is show business, with the double aim of 1.)determining who among the faction should lead, and 2.)distracting the broad populace in thinking that the real battle is between the two factions, and not between the ruling class vs. the rest.


    that was why i asked for some pop corn a while back. i wanted to sit back and enjoy the show.
    Last edited by gareb; 11-25-2011 at 02:09 AM.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

  9. #11389

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    and let me just add..... only in the philippines where showbiz and politics gets muddled.
    they go hand-in-hand in many ways than one.

    • showbiz icons turned politicians
    • politician marketing themselves as showbiz icons
    • teleserye unfolding in the halls of the Senate and the House of Reps, in primetime news right in everybody's living room.
    • the president of the "strong republic" with anomalies one on top of the other, impunity over media and extra-judicial killings supposedly perpetrated by state agents, now posing as the underdogs demanding her rights.


    this story is an Oscar-winner in the making, except that it is too real to be believable.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

  10. #11390

    Default Re: MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

    personalan nman d i ni dri?

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