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  1. #7271

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    Lesson in logic


    A non sequitur is an inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence. It can also be a statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.

    For example, it is a non sequitur in both senses when President Benigno Aquino III says that the lower death toll in the last two typhoons compared with the 400 or so killed by tropical storm Ondoy in 2009 proves that the government response this time around was timely.

    First, let us examine the evidence.

    The President convened the National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council on Oct. 2, a full five days after Typhoon Pedring battered Luzon and left Bulacan, Nueva Ecija, Pampanga and Pangasinan submerged in floodwaters, and three days after he returned from a four-day visit to Japan. Mr. Aquino’s first visit to typhoon-hit provinces came a full week after Pedring entered the country.

    In the meantime, relief arrived in the flood-stricken provinces such as Bulacan four days after Pedring struck.

    No matter how the President’s apologists spin the story, a four- to five-day delay can hardly be considered timely. The evidence simply does not support Mr. Aquino’s conclusion.

    Now, let us turn to the logic.

    Mr. Aquino’s argument is illogical because the swiftness of the government’s response is not the only determinant of how many people die in a calamity.

    The most important factor, of course, is the severity of the natural disaster. Another is location. A storm that hits heavily populated areas will no doubt take more lives than one that visits less densely populated areas.

    Tropical storm Ondoy in 2009 brought a record amount of rainfall (455 millimeters in 24 hours, compared to the 250 millimeters of rain that Hurricane Katrina dumped on New Orleans in Louisiana in the United States in 2005) that resulted in heavy flooding in the densely populated areas of Metro Manila. In fact, the National Capital Region accounted for almost half of the deaths from Ondoy.

    By contrast, Typhoons Pedring and Quiel brought less rain and spared the areas in Metro Manila that were hardest-hit by Ondoy.

    Given the differences between 2009 and 2011, it would be illogical to conclude, as Mr. Aquino did, that the lower death toll this year was brought about by a better response from government rescue and relief operations.

    After the President’s three-minute stopover at one evacuation center on Wednesday, a flood victim said it was unfortunate that Mr. Aquino did not have time for them. That, too, was a non sequitur. Certainly, the President had time for the flood victims—three minutes, to be precise. We do wonder, however, if he spent two or three minutes more at the VIP lounge of the airport, when he met with Miss Universe 3rd Runner Up Shamcey Supsup in September, just before his four-day working visit to the United States. But of course, it would be unfair to say this was an indication of the President’s priorities.

    Manila Standard Today -- Lesson in logic -- 2011/october/7

  2. #7272

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    Quote Originally Posted by KE-25 View Post
    I haven't been following PNOY fully , but the impression I get is a President just getting by. Well wa ta kibaw how stressful and big the scope of government service is , but I really wish he'd address the obvious. While it is good to go after the previous corrupt administration as this is one of his focal point in office , i'd like to see him address our countries infrastructure , jobs , education , etc ... While it is good we don't hear much about his car or attending a hotdog concert or flavor of women he may be dating , i'd like to hear what he is doing about our economy and the latter mentioned.

    There is a very small percent of anyone being voted to be President , I hope he realizes what the people voted him in office for and remember at the end of the day , it isn't money, power, fame that is important but how one will be remembered , a lasting legacy that finally one has made change in a country where people have little faith in Government.

    my 2 cents
    tumpak kaayo ni nga post. noy2x may be good sa "pag-gukod" sa mga kurakot but how about sa ubang butang?

    still havent felt it... and dili ra ako ang wla nka feel ha... daghan mi. esp those nga mga kaila nako nga kusog kaayo mo depensa ni noy2x kadtong wala pa ang election. but now, mo hilom na lang intawn kung maghisgot mig butang or news kabahin ni noy2x...

  3. #7273

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    Quote Originally Posted by estor_boot View Post
    ^ngutana ko brad, unsa diay gusto nimo buhaton ni PNoy bahin anang mindanao massacre?
    i wonder sd kung nganong gi apil pud ni noy2x ang mga asawa/relatives sa mga na biktima sa mindanao massacre sa iyang pagkampanya ni adto election pa... remember his campaign ad?

  4. #7274

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    He only promised that justice will be served to all the parties involved.

  5. #7275

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    i wonder sd kung nganong gi apil pud ni noy2x ang mga asawa/relatives sa mga na biktima sa mindanao massacre sa iyang pagkampanya ni adto election pa... remember his campaign ad?
    wala man ka motubag sa akong question.

    unsa diay gusto nimo buhaton ni Noynoy bahin sa maguindanao massacre?

  6. #7276

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    tumpak kaayo ni nga post. noy2x may be good sa "pag-gukod" sa mga kurakot but how about sa ubang butang?

    still havent felt it... and dili ra ako ang wla nka feel ha... daghan mi. esp those nga mga kaila nako nga kusog kaayo mo depensa ni noy2x kadtong wala pa ang election. but now, mo hilom na lang intawn kung maghisgot mig butang or news kabahin ni noy2x...
    my reaction regarding the bold letters above is meant for everyone and not to single out the quoted member.. ^^

    mao ni ang problema kanato nga mga taw, gusto dayon ta ug resulta, hinoon dili man kana sayop, dili sd bati.. ma sabtan ra sd kay tungod sa tumang kalisod sa panahon...

    ang atong problema sa ka pobre daghan ug rason, sa akong tan-aw mao kini.. 1.) wala kitay national sense of unity.. usahay mka ingon gani ko nga wala kitay national sense of identity.. mao nga kasagaran bungkag pas tae kanding ang atong mga katawhan.. 2.) tungod sa colonial mentality natong mga pilipino nga nasunod nato sa kolonisasyon sa mga espanyol, amerikano, ug japon..3.) grabi na ka institutionalized ang problema sa corruption nga kita mismo nahisakop na niaani.. kung kabantay mo atong mentalidad kusog kaayo mamintaha sa uban, mao kani ang labing simple nga indikasyon nga hasta kita nakaon na sa systema nga korap..

    mao nga sa akong tan-aw.. dako na kaayo ug natabang ang naumol nga sense of honesty sa national government.. dili tanan naa diha honest pero dako na kaayo nga kalampusan nga karon hinay-hinay na nga nawala ang perception nga walay lain buhaton ang goberno kung dili ang pgpangawat lang.. kahinumdum man siguro kita sa panahon ni gloria nga helpless na kaayo ang panahon nga hasta ang kadaghanan na pul-an na sa kurapson nga murag ni uyon nlang sd hinoon sila niani..

    sa akong minubo nga pgsabot, ang problema sa kalisod dugay pa nga sulbaron, dili ugma, dili sa 2016, ug cguro dili pa sa 2022..

    karon, mangutana kita.. naa bay gibuhat ang atong goberno? yes, naa.. kay kung wala pa.. mahisama unta kita sa nasudnong kalisod sa panalapi susama sa nasod nga PIGS.. ^^ Portugal-Italy-Greece-Spain

    swerte pa gani ta kay naay gamay nga resiliency ang atong ekonomiya..

  7. #7277

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_bauer View Post
    my reaction regarding the bold letters above is meant for everyone and not to single out the quoted member.. ^^

    mao ni ang problema kanato nga mga taw, gusto dayon ta ug resulta, hinoon dili man kana sayop, dili sd bati.. ma sabtan ra sd kay tungod sa tumang kalisod sa panahon...

    ang atong problema sa ka pobre daghan ug rason, sa akong tan-aw mao kini.. 1.) wala kitay national sense of unity.. usahay mka ingon gani ko nga wala kitay national sense of identity.. mao nga kasagaran bungkag pas tae kanding ang atong mga katawhan.. 2.) tungod sa colonial mentality natong mga pilipino nga nasunod nato sa kolonisasyon sa mga espanyol, amerikano, ug japon..3.) grabi na ka institutionalized ang problema sa corruption nga kita mismo nahisakop na niaani.. kung kabantay mo atong mentalidad kusog kaayo mamintaha sa uban, mao kani ang labing simple nga indikasyon nga hasta kita nakaon na sa systema nga korap..

    mao nga sa akong tan-aw.. dako na kaayo ug natabang ang naumol nga sense of honesty sa national government.. dili tanan naa diha honest pero dako na kaayo nga kalampusan nga karon hinay-hinay na nga nawala ang perception nga walay lain buhaton ang goberno kung dili ang pgpangawat lang.. kahinumdum man siguro kita sa panahon ni gloria nga helpless na kaayo ang panahon nga hasta ang kadaghanan na pul-an na sa kurapson nga murag ni uyon nlang sd hinoon sila niani..

    sa akong minubo nga pgsabot, ang problema sa kalisod dugay pa nga sulbaron, dili ugma, dili sa 2016, ug cguro dili pa sa 2022..

    karon, mangutana kita.. naa bay gibuhat ang atong goberno? yes, naa.. kay kung wala pa.. mahisama unta kita sa nasudnong kalisod sa panalapi susama sa nasod nga PIGS.. ^^ Portugal-Italy-Greece-Spain

    swerte pa gani ta kay naay gamay nga resiliency ang atong ekonomiya..
    uyon jud ko nimo ani Bai Jack, makita man ni nato dire sa mga tig-post kana bitaw kusog mamersonal sus mao jud batasana. dili bitaw maghuna-huna nga kung unsa nila ka maayong laki or kadato sa ilang kinabuhi, nga naa pa jud molabaw nila.
    Last edited by networkguy; 10-08-2011 at 10:46 AM.

  8. #7278

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    Quote Originally Posted by estor_boot View Post
    wala man ka motubag sa akong question.

    unsa diay gusto nimo buhaton ni Noynoy bahin sa maguindanao massacre?
    are you a psychopath? do you enjoy using the misery of victims just so you can "feel intelligent" and troll?

  9. #7279

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    Quote Originally Posted by networkguy View Post
    uyon jud ko nimo ani Bai Jack, makita man ni nato dire sa mga tig-post kana bitaw kusog mamersonal sus mao jud batasana.
    it keeps the fire burning.. it makes this thread fun..

    gosh, i;m really corrupted...

    good morning net, more tribune article please.. nyehehehehehe

  10. #7280

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_bauer View Post
    it keeps the fire burning.. it makes this thread fun..

    gosh, i;m really corrupted...

    good morning net, more tribune article please.. nyehehehehehe
    hahaha ato sa papahuwayon ang Tribune Jack, kay mura nalumos si pnoy karong semanaha dah bitaw jack buhat pa ko reports pahulay lang sa ko kad**** kay mingaw ko ani nga thread

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