World War 2 - Cebu

[mokiloo]

^^^yah well said...rip the muslims off from their claim of mindanao then call them our brothers?
well that's really convenient.
and by the way, this is more of a discussion about what, how or why Mindanao is excluded or included in the Paris treaty based on the fingerprints of history.

this ain't to spark hate and conflict but a healthy discussion
neither also you can sound like you're gonna sing or sounding so poetic

I suggest you dig deeper

[elvandesantos]

well anyway... we gotta love reading history books.. lots of inputs! makat-on gyud ka! kudos TS.

OT: peace to my beloved mindanao!

[elvandesantos]

who can explain this to me please? or who can show us here if Mindanao, indeed is excluded sa treaty? hopefully with images and pointers demanding ra kaayo? hehehehe... interesting topic lang kay karon pako nagka-interes sa history

haha. bugoya gyud nmo oi.. unsa nman imong polsci diay... geographic basline natoh.. although na change thru demands by other nations like malaysia, indonesia etc... but what its telling kay nasulod gyud sa contrata ang mindanao hehehe. pag kita natoh tudlo-an tika basa ug mapa.. provide ug world map hehehe

[entrepreneur101]

very informative TS..

nahan kos capitol kay walay trapik..

ataka wala paman ang balay sa akoa mga grandparents
bakante paman ang maria cristina likod cebu doctors hehe =)

[rapksi]

mura kog ni tanaw ug salida...nice

[mokiloo]

grabi gyud kaayo looking at those old images mura mang limbawt imo mga balahibo and mura mu-tulu imo mga luha.
Esp that old Capitol-Jones avenue photo above. Imagine sa ka traffic ug polluted na karon plus nag hu-ot ang mga buildings ug shanties--ironies of both progress and poverty side by side.
You can't help nalang ang think kanindot sa una ui ang Cebu mura ug one veery big park or plaza

[mokiloo]

OT

who can explain this to me please? or who can show us here if Mindanao, indeed is excluded sa treaty? hopefully with images and pointers demanding ra kaayo? hehehehe... interesting topic lang kay karon pako nagka-interes sa history

just refer to the Treaty of Paris. aside from its stipulated agreements carefully refer to its chronological details.
And try to cross reference them with any articles about the sovereignty of Spain over the Phils preceding the said treaty
Also look up the sultanates or any muslim sovereignty in the Philippines esp Mindanao with the same chronological rhythm.

basta bottomline para nako is, katong gi turn over sa spain syempre is katong na govern nila
and during that time they weren't able to establish even a strong foothold in mindanao
so you figure that out.

It so happen lang Mindanao is a part of the Philippine Archipelago
Spain turned over the Philippines as the territory under their sovereign governance to the US
but the fact of Mindanao being part of the archipelago BUT not under their sovereign rule was undermined

So most probably there are loopholes or grey areas sa pact

[teoding]

G.I.s standing on the left side of the picture with the barrel of an M7 Priest Self Propelled Artillery just sticking out. On the background is clearly the Cebu Provincial Capitol with black soot near the roof of the left-side wing probably caused by a small fire during the war.

[ryeaka]

OT


just refer to the Treaty of Paris. aside from its stipulated agreements carefully refer to its chronological details.
And try to cross reference them with any articles about the sovereignty of Spain over the Phils preceding the said treaty
Also look up the sultanates or any muslim sovereignty in the Philippines esp Mindanao with the same chronological rhythm.

basta bottomline para nako is, katong gi turn over sa spain syempre is katong na govern nila
and during that time they weren't able to establish even a strong foothold in mindanao
so you figure that out.

It so happen lang Mindanao is a part of the Philippine Archipelago
Spain turned over the Philippines as the territory under their sovereign governance to the US
but the fact of Mindanao being part of the archipelago BUT not under their sovereign rule was undermined

So most probably there are loopholes or grey areas sa pact

OT: very well said... thank you...

OnT: everytime i open up the first page of this thread, i can't help but be flabbergasted with how Cebu has evolved after the war. i hope the TS could post more pics or some people here can contribute as well...

[higanstolsdawen]

G.I.s standing on the left side of the picture with the barrel of an M7 Priest Self Propelled Artillery just sticking out. On the background is clearly the Cebu Provincial Capitol with black soot near the roof of the left-side wing probably caused by a small fire during the war.

ahaka murag lapad pa man ang dalan sauna compared karon nga maghuot ang sakyanan diha dapit sa capitol. btw, geunsa nimu pagkahibaw nga m7 priest na ang naa sa pics nga dili man siya maklaro.