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  1. #21

    Default Re: Is it too late to learn programming at age 30?


    age 30 junior software engineer.
    age 35 senior software engineer.
    age 40 software architect/team lead
    age 45 solutions architect/consultant
    age 50 project manager
    age 55 senior manager
    age 60 VP
    age 65 CEO
    age 70 deads

    payts pa kaayo...

  2. #22

    Default Re: Is it too late to learn programming at age 30?

    Quote Originally Posted by softtouch View Post
    Its never too late to learn something.
    Almost all replies here are related to "hiring" etc., but who said that a programmer must be hired by some company? You can make a lot of money as freelancer.
    True but it's either you are fooling your client saying that you have experience with what you need to do or your client doesn't care for the quality of what he wants. Either way ok ra man if naa kay guts and confidence nga makaya nimo bisan wla pa ka kabalo. hehehe

    Even if you go to odesk they will still require experienced people.

    I do agree that its never too late to learn something coz its what programmers do most of the time. Its just that the TS did ask if he still has chances landing a job so of course replies will relate to hiring and that he has lower chances of getting a higher paying job.

  3. #23

    Default Re: Is it too late to learn programming at age 30?

    Quote Originally Posted by niehrx View Post
    age 30 junior software engineer.
    age 35 senior software engineer.
    age 40 software architect/team lead
    age 45 solutions architect/consultant
    age 50 project manager
    age 55 senior manager
    age 60 VP
    age 65 CEO
    age 70 deads

    payts pa kaayo...
    would it be better by 30 or 35 you are a CEO or chairman already? my target before i reach 35 i started my own business by that time, right now im still setting up...

  4. #24

    Default Re: Is it too late to learn programming at age 30?

    its not too late.......

  5. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    would it be better by 30 or 35 you are a CEO or chairman already? my target before i reach 35 i started my own business by that time, right now im still setting up...
    impossible para sa TS 30-35 ma CEO unless kwartahan daan. hehe.

  6. #26

    Default Re: Is it too late to learn programming at age 30?

    Quote Originally Posted by prettylicious View Post
    there is no age limit in learning...
    but there's an age limit in hiring.

    hahaha. rhyme na ha. hahaha

  7. #27

    Default Re: Is it too late to learn programming at age 30?

    Quote Originally Posted by cebugdev View Post
    Honestly? a big NO chance in hell;
    consider these points and scenarios;

    1. Company hired employee for specific and active project, wlay company na basta lang mo hire kay gusto cla mo hire (we are talking for IT-software companies here not callcenter). By that fact, weighing in a 30 year old applicant with virtually no experience in the field comparing to a early to mid 20 guy with enough experience, will always be a no contest. There are field that are NEVER learned overnight (or weeks) such as
    system programming, Driver development, Firmware development, Game development, and other low-level development stuff.

    Only basic webdevelopment and simple Information system based softwares such as POS, accounting system, etc. can be learned in weeks. Pero sa kasayun nya, daghan kamao mobuhat ani.

    Architecture design, concepts such as Design patterns and OOP are learned from experienced and not books.

    practicality and cost wise, company will always hire young fresh graduate once (if no experience) compare to expensive old ones (without experience), Expensive salaries are for those with ample of experience in the filed.

    2. If you are indeed hired, by 30 years old dawaton pa ba kaha nmo ang Junior Position? most of them will aim for that 'senior' or that higher position like team lead, chief, etc.
    Ofcourse they cant offer you that 'senior' position because of lack of experience.
    Most of the 'older' guys cannot TAKE it if a mid 20s-experience-young-guy is their team leader, and EVEN
    their software architect. Dawaton ba kaha nmo kng ang sugoon ka ug buhat sa 24 years old nmo na leader to follow the design planned? Or if motoo man gani ka then maglalis mo, will you respect and consider to concieve because he is your leader or architect (or at the least try his approach)?
    Or if naa kay lakaw or date ba ron sa imo uyab then ingnon ra ka sa 24 years old nmo na leader na mag OT hangtud dli mahuman, motoo ba kaha ka? Kaya ba nmo magpa-hiubos in action and not in words?

    3. Whether we liked it or not; theres always the AGE factor, stamina, agility, attitude, etc. are indirectly considered. Theres also the factor of TRAINABILITY, this is the factor that says "unsa kasayon i trained ang bago employee". Since fresh grad is 'fresh' and eager to learn, they learn fast, old ones has this tendencies to argue things before accepting(sometimnes neve accept it).
    I learned this on the field training new hirees (both fresh grad and not).

    These points are considered greatly by the company before they invest in you.

    "its not too late".. phrase is very idealistic.

    Its harsh but its the sad reality today,
    Year after year there are thousands of BSCS/BSIT/BSCOMPE or even BSMAth of BSPhysics graduates, mao na imo kompetensya. counting also are the ART people that can do Web projects.
    People on the field are learning new stuff (from experience) every day.

    My advice is to use your funds and start a businessv(in IT if you like)
    Or if you really want to enter the IT field, then apply as QA then from their you can gain experience and when the right time comes, you can transfer to Dev

    ::all of the points i pointed above were experienced from actual event. Thus proving my point
    with this type of attitude, di jud madawat bisan asa nga company bisan sa call center pah. hahaa
    we have to learn to swallow our pride. when our source for food is at stake.

  8. #28

    Default Re: Is it too late to learn programming at age 30?

    Quote Originally Posted by dekarcane View Post
    True but it's either you are fooling your client saying that you have experience with what you need to do or your client doesn't care for the quality of what he wants. Either way ok ra man if naa kay guts and confidence nga makaya nimo bisan wla pa ka kabalo. hehehe

    Even if you go to odesk they will still require experienced people.

    I do agree that its never too late to learn something coz its what programmers do most of the time. Its just that the TS did ask if he still has chances landing a job so of course replies will relate to hiring and that he has lower chances of getting a higher paying job.
    agi tanan anang pangilad bro, bisan ako pag fresh grad nako nangilad ko para lang maka land ko og job. ang importate ra is guts and how you prove your worth at the end.

    bisan si bill gates na ngilad siya nga naa na siyay OS pro wa pa diay himoon pa. para lang maka land og deal.

  9. #29

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    TS, kong kwarta ra imong gi apas mao mo solod ka balik sa programming basin mag lisod ka kai ma frustrate ka... kai mag sugod jud kas ilawm.. pro kong passion jud na nimo hala buhata hantud asa ka dalhon sa imong gibati

  10. #30

    Default Re: Is it too late to learn programming at age 30?

    age 19-28 = technical support ko
    28-31 = balik school BSCS
    31 = graduate din sugod ko PHP (employed as web developer)
    35+ = web development sideline daghan kau,ga apas nas oras pirme

    never too late

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