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  1. #21

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)


    Haha si Yanong ba! hahaha

  2. #22

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    ^^ Dali, fleur apil namo manaygon. Dalha tong imong tambourine nga tansan. Ang ako, sistang bagol. Kang TS, arinola. Iya daw ng i-kalo' kay nagtaligsik, basin mabasa daw siya.
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 09-07-2011 at 12:41 AM.

  3. #23

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    nice post TS, i just want to add more info on this.

    watch this video first
    The God Who Wasn't There [Full Film] - YouTube


    Most of the Savior / God Stories can be found in this book of
    Lord Raglan's the hero pattern: (study of folklore) The 22 point system

    Lord' Raglan's Hero Pattern

    1. Hero's mother is a royal virgin;
    2. His father is a king, and
    3. Often a near relative of his mother, but
    4. The circumstances of his conception are unusual, and
    5. He is also reputed to be the son of a god.
    6. At birth an attempt is made, usually by his father or his maternal grand father to kill him, but
    7. he is spirited away, and
    8. Reared by foster -parents in a far country.
    9. We are told nothing of his childhood, but
    10. On reaching manhood he returns or goes to his future Kingdom.
    11. After a victory over the king and/or a giant, dragon, or wild beast,
    12. He marries a princess, often the daughter of his predecessor and
    13. And becomes king.
    14. For a time he reigns uneventfully and
    15. Prescribes laws, but
    16. Later he loses favor with the gods and/or his subjects, and
    17. Is driven from the throne and city, after which
    18. He meets with a mysterious death,
    19. Often at the top of a hill,
    20. His children, if any do not succeed him.
    21. His body is not buried, but nevertheless
    22. He has one or more holy sepulchres.


    Here are the list of Stories some Pre-dating to the jesus story

    Oedipus and Mithradates VI of Pontus 22 Points
    Mithradates

    Krishna 21 Points
    Krishna

    Theseus and Moses 20 Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...sesPattern.htm

    and Romulus and 19 Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...lusPattern.htm

    Jesus - 18 Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...susPattern.htm

    King Arthur -
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...hurPattern.htm

    Watu Gunung of Java 18 Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...ungPattern.htm

    Heracles -
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...n/Heracles.htm

    Hercules and Mohammad 17 Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...madPattern.htm

    Perseus 18 Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...eusPattern.htm

    Beowulf, 15 Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...ulfPattern.htm

    Buddha -
    The Buddha


    Czar Nicholas II
    The Buddha

    Zeus , -
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...eusPattern.htm


    Nyikang - Shiluk Tribe of Upper nile 14 - Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...angPattern.htm


    Samson 13 Points-
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...sonPattern.htm

    Sunjata - Lion King of Ancient Mali 11 Points-
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...ataPattern.htm



    Achilles - 10 Points
    Achilles and the Hero Pattern

    Odysseus - 8 Points
    http://department.monm.edu/classics/...eusPattern.htm

    Harry Potter - 8 Points
    Harry Potter and the Hero Pattern



    more mythical god stories so similar to Jesus


    1.Horus - Sun God of Egypt, born on December 25th of the virgin Isis-Meri.
    Had 12 disciples he traveled about with, performing miracles such as healing the sick and walking on water.
    After being betrayed by Typhon, Horus was crucified, buried for 3 days, and resurrected

    Horus, the God of Kings in Ancient Egypt

    Horus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    2.Attis, of Phyrigia, born of the virgin Nana on December 25th, crucified, placed in a tomb and after 3 days,
    was resurrected.

    Attis



    3. Krishna, of India, born of the virgin Devaki with a star in the east signaling his coming,
    performed miracles with his disciples, and upon his death was resurrected

    Stories of Lord Krishna


    4.One of my favorites is the Story of Dionysus
    Dionysus of Greece, born of a virgin on December 25th, was a traveling teacher who performed miracles
    such as turning water into wine

    STORIES OF DIONYSUS 3 : Greek mythology

    There is no evidence that Dionysus was born on December 25th. OTHER similarities, however, are rather disturbing.
    1) Both had a mortal mother and a god father (Dionysus was NOT born of a virgin, however. His father was Zeus!
    Since when did Zeus ever NOT have *** with a virgin?)

    2) Both fathers were the King of Kings, or the highest in heaven

    3) Dionysus was known as the god of salvation. He went to hell and brought his mother up from Hades.

    4) Both died and were resurrected (In some myths, Dionysus even died and was re-born TWICE)

    5) Both had to flee and hide after their birth (Jesus from Herod, Dionysys from Hera)

    6) Both had ties with women. Jesus was known to bring equality to women and had many women followers while Dionysus'
    followers were all women and he was known as a god for woman sexuality

    7) Both returned to their birth towns after they had grown, and both were denied. People said to them, oh I remember
    you when you were little, you think you're a god now? (In Jesus' case, God's son)

    Jesus' first miracle was to turn water to wine, a trick well known of Dionysus. During festivals,
    he would fill 3 barrels with wine (where Jesus turned three barrels of water into wine)

    9) When denied, mortals would suffer both their wraths (Jesus' is explained in revelations,
    where as Dionysus' wrath was more immediate in his hometown

    10) Both were seated "at the right hand of the father".

    As for the other gods, their is no evidence of the date December being important,
    but the "dying god complex" is a common reoccurring theme through out all religions.
    Jesus was neither the first nor the last to die and be reborn, or to die as a form of salvation.



    5. Mithra, of Persia, born of a virgin on December 25th, he had 12 disciples and performed miracles,
    and upon his death was buried for 3 days and thus

    Cosmic Mysteries of Mithras | Mithraism | Ancient Religion

    Christianity Is The Plagiarized Version Of Mithraism - revkenny's Blog - Blogster



    This is not all that is borrowed by the Bible. Many of his miracles are miracles seen in other religions pre-dating Christ.
    Buddhist Bodhisattva's are popular characters to borrow from.
    Christians cannot deny these claims. They were so troubled by them once upon a time that the Catholic church
    decreed that all other gods and miracles that Christianity appeared to rip off were in fact an elaborate
    ruse by the devil to confuse believers. That's quite a stretch isn't it? They decided that the devil made
    sure that all of these things happened before the coming of Christ, just to make them look bad.
    Now, that answer sounds too lame to believe, but when Christianity ruled the western world, few dared to contest it.




    ore "Parallel Pagan" Gods with similar of jesus story

    Adonis
    Attis (and Cybele)
    Baal
    Bacchus
    Balder
    Beddru
    Devatat
    Dionysos
    Hermes
    Horus
    Krishna (or Krsna)
    Mithras
    Orpheus
    Osiris
    Tammuz (or Dumuzi)
    Thor
    Zoroaster

  4. #24

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    Remember this billboard that made headlines last year?

    Let's not forget the TRUE essence of the holidays.


  5. #25

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    Ask lang, I was just thinking...
    Do you ever watch sci-fi movies or any fictional movie whatsoever? If mu tan aw mu unsa inyung ma feel? Nya dile mn na tinood ...
    ...malingaw ra mug tan aw mga ing ana?? Nya again dile mana tinood? Oh for entertainment purposes rmn gud nang mga movies!,,,,ha! True! Amazing how those fictional movies can catch our attention and entertain the hell out of us! Wow!! Not to mention Drama noh? We can't help but ....you know

    I hope you people don't snatch toys like pooh bear or dora from some kid, and says...NO! Fictional character, NOt True, Bad! Do you have kids already? Do u dare snatching it from them? Science toys, puzzle games are soo booring, walay love,, dile pd ma hug sa bata.

    Ayy for me lang jd... knowledge satisfies the mind...mind lang, after knowing then what?
    Ay! I know whats next....boasting! Telling the world that you know everything, or not necessarily evrything but to some but for you..you feel soo dammm genius. Hey, you deserve it. Imu bya ge hagoan og research! Diba? ? ? Google and stuff....

    Question... how does it feel really?
    To Always find reason to this and that,,,,,,,ei, there's more to life than knowing and finding reason to everything... moooore

    I wonder if it still the same when you reach hmm lets say 40, 50, 60
    ...or when you are at the critical unit or being stabbed by some crazy freak sa walang ka tao taong lugar, or your kid maybe who is dying...I hope you would not dare say to your poor child....My CHild we all gonna die,..where am I going after this pa?....nowhere kid, there is no such thing as SOUL

    Last edited by petite fleur; 09-07-2011 at 04:25 AM.

  6. #26

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    Again.. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!
    People....maski panagsa,,, pahumuka inyung kasing2x
    weeeeeee

  7. #27

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    ingun ani diay ni magsourgraping ang mga atheist
    kalooi

  8. #28

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    ingun ani diay ni magsourgraping ang mga atheist
    kalooi
    +10000000000000 ko nimu bro...

  9. #29

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    ah basta...bisan unsa pay origin sa Christmas....as long as we celebrate it with our family,no need to debate..this is the only time of the year where relatives come over,dine and enjoy.

  10. #30

    Default Re: The SHOCKING Pagan Origin Of Christmas - Must Read! (Merry Christmas!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Bro. in your own opinion, Does he really exists? Jesus is what I mean or it is just another Pagan Story?

    by the way I was the one making thread like this last year 2009.
    I doubt if Jesus really existed. If he did, he existed as a mortal.

    There were no accounts in history that says Jesus has existed.

    Plus, there were parallels of Jesus to the Pagan God, Horus. Since Christianity was set up by Constantine, who was a Pagan, Jesus COULD BE or CERTAINLY BE a by product of the Pagan God, Horus.

    Check this out

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm

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