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    taod2x nmn diay ni nga tread im Roman Catholic but for now ill content my self in reading the post

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    Quote Originally Posted by petite fleur View Post
    You questioned me then you said sa akong PERSONAL idea lang because sa sinugdanan, you wouldn't allow me to quote or post links. So very possible indeed my answers would not much sa unsay naa sa libro specifically or maski ang thought mn lang,. again like I said I am not wise enough. Then karon nag ingun2x naka unsay naa sa doctrine. Common sense I think would tell you that you can google it but you prefer to ask which is nahan ka mahibalo sa amung Personal answer. Karon, kay nakaingun mn jd ka nga opposite akong answer sa uban. alangan!!! di me preha og utok!
    Of course!! taw ra jd, ikaw dile pd ka mu acknowledge, and also, kung mag ingun kag tuga2x,,,,wow,,, what do you expect from us? Again, bago rako ni balik sa akong faith! and...ni respeto man lang unta ka sa akong tubag, nga dito ra ko kutob, kay kinsa rmn sad ko mag tubag2x nga sakto.... mau na mas maau mangutana kag mga taw nga naay lawm nga pagsabot and understanding about sa imung pangutana kung nahan kag PERFECT nga tubag...kanang dile tuga2x kay kaming tanan taw dire nag try og tubag nag toga2x ramn kaha.

    Ako ni try ra jd ko sa akong best... sorry!

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    the post where I answered your question was about the Holy Trinity. Remember?
    Sa ako ra tong pag too... og dile to toga2x, I hope naka sabot raka.
    mao gani, I was just asking about sa Doctrina mao ni answer ka, And I never said sayop ka nangayu rako ug dugang explanation why Opposite ka ug answer sa isa ka Poster diri nga gasulti sa iyang explanation. Mao rana. Wa tawn ko nisulti nga sayop ka or siya, ngita lan ko kinsay maka explain nganu dili mu pariha ug exp. pero if mu ingun ka wa kay sure sa imung answer ok ra sad nko

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    mao gani, I was just asking about sa Doctrina mao ni answer ka, And I never said sayop ka nangayu rako ug dugang explanation why Opposite ka ug answer sa isa ka Poster diri nga gasulti sa iyang explanation. Mao rana. Wa tawn ko nisulti nga sayop ka or siya, ngita lan ko kinsay maka explain nganu dili mu pariha ug exp. pero if mu ingun ka wa kay sure sa imung answer ok ra sad nko
    the term "toga-toga" itself for me would mean to say nga sayup iyahang tubag. mau rana akong nalainan jd. kinsang taw ingnan nimug toga2x nga sakto pd yang tubag? if mu ignun pd ka ana pwede sad pag sabot nga paghilum nlng kay nag toga2x raka...

    okay enough... I back out... though dire pa ko kutob I hope that I will surely grow with this...and thanks sa mga questions... before I answer ako pd nang ge question sa akong self...

    maski ako dghan pa pd mga pangutana but it would be better nga ikaw ang mangita sa answer and not from others... kay kung ikaw ang maka discover/maka experience sure ko...dile jd ka pwede nga maka dile, mag duda or dile mu uyun! right!

    It's all about Faith Gnight

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    Quote Originally Posted by petite fleur View Post
    You questioned me then you said sa akong PERSONAL idea lang because sa sinugdanan, you wouldn't allow me to quote or post links. So very possible indeed my answers would not much sa unsay naa sa libro specifically or maski ang thought mn lang,. again like I said I am not wise enough. Then karon nag ingun2x naka unsay naa sa doctrine. Common sense I think would tell you that you can google it but you prefer to ask which is nahan ka mahibalo sa amung Personal answer. Karon, kay nakaingun mn jd ka nga opposite akong answer sa uban. alangan!!! di me preha og utok!
    Of course!! taw ra jd, ikaw dile pd ka mu acknowledge, and also, kung mag ingun kag tuga2x,,,,wow,,, what do you expect from us? Again, bago rako ni balik sa akong faith! and...ni respeto man lang unta ka sa akong tubag, nga dito ra ko kutob, kay kinsa rmn sad ko mag tubag2x nga sakto.... mau na mas maau mangutana kag mga taw nga naay lawm nga pagsabot and understanding about sa imung pangutana kung nahan kag PERFECT nga tubag...kanang dile tuga2x kay kaming tanan taw dire nag try og tubag nag toga2x ramn kaha.

    Ako ni try ra jd ko sa akong best... sorry!

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    the post where I answered your question was about the Holy Trinity. Remember?
    Sa ako ra tong pag too... og dile to toga2x, I hope naka sabot raka.

    welcome back!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hush232002 View Post
    welcome back!!!
    hapit na mag one year, tumbahan nato og iro. hahaha

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    Whoever said that the Bible is 100% correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedogs View Post
    now i say though that the bible is the basis of truth. kay ngano? that contains the teaching taught by Jesus Christ and His apostles.
    Giunsa man pud nimo pagkasiguro nga kanang mga books sa bible (Matthew, John, Revelation, etc...) mao ang mga tinuod nga books, considering nga ang RC man ang nag-decide sa 27 books nga i-include sa new testament? Giunsa man nimo pagkasiguro nga kadtong Acts of Peter, Epistle of Barnabas, Gospel of Magdalene, etc...nga gi-reject sa ecumenical council sa catholic church (Council of Trent) mga fakes tong mga libroha?

    Kun dili infallible ang catholic church nga maoy nagpili ug nag-reject sa mga libro sa new testament, nganong 100% confident man ka nga walay sayop ang sulod sa bible ug wala'y genuine books nga nasaypan pag reject?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Koreksyon lang gamay, bay cliff_drew. Wala pa matawo si Constantine, nag-exist na ang pagpanguros.
    I stand corrected, thanks.


    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    So kung sayop ang pagpanguros, nganong gi-defend man sa mga early christian believers ang maong practice?[/B]
    Why man ilang idefend ang usa ka practice if tinuod nga naa sa Bible? Mo agree ba ka nga kung unsa naa sa Bible maoy dapat sundon? True Christians always base their teachings on the Bible since its the word of God and written by men.

    Indeed, that is why we also thank God incessantly, because when YOU received God’s word, which YOU heard from us, YOU accepted it, not as the word of men, but, just as it truthfully is, as the word of God, which is also at work in YOU believers. (1 Thessalonians 2:13)


    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Kun ato sundon ang imong logic, asa ma'y mas tinuoray nga gi-curse, kadtong gibitay (Christ) o kadtong gibitayan (cross)? So dili diay pud ta angay mo-pray ni Jesus kay gi-curse man diay cya? Murag salikwaot na nga panglantawa, bay.

    I-share kuno ang bible verse nga nag-ingon: improper ang pagpanguros. Kay ubay2x ra ba pud sa mga early christians ang gi-persecute sa mga romano tungod lang aning kuros. Nagsayang2x lang diay to sila sa ilang kinabuhi. Sayang, mga pioneer nga christian man unta to sila.
    Gitudloan kita ni Jesus Christ unsaon pag-ampo (Matthew 6:9-13). Human sa iyang kamatayon, naay bay kausaban unsaon pag-ampo? Naa bay verse sa Bible nga dapat manguros kita kung kita mag-ampo?


    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Mura'g imo mang gi-generalize ang tanang symbols, bay. Ang gidili anang mga verse nga imong gi-share, mao ang mga idols - mga butang nga gisimba ingon nga Dios. Gisimba diay sa mga katoliko ang krus ingon nga Dios? Nakadungog diay ka'g katoliko nga tarong og pangisip nga niingon: 'O talahurong KRUS, ang akong DIOS' ?
    Ang krus wala ba gihimo nga simbolo sa pag-ampo? Wala ba giludhan ang krus? Daghan pang example giunsa paggamit ang krus.

    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Tan-awa daw ni palihug.

    Numbers 21:4-9
    The LORD said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

    Exodus 25:18, 20
    And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. The cherubim are to have their wings spread upward, overshadowing the cover with them. The cherubim are to face each other, looking toward the cover.

    Exodus 25:22
    There, above the cover between the two cherubim that are over the ark of the covenant law, I will meet with you and give you all my commands for the Israelites.


    Kun sayop ang paghimo og bisan unsang matang sa symbols, sa ato pa nasayop diay ang DIOS kay nagsugo man siya ni Moses paghimo og halas nga gipapilit sa pole, unya iya pud gisugo si Moses paghimo og duha ka anghel?
    Sayop ka bai yanong. Tungod kay sige ug reklamo ang mga Israelita sa Dios, gipadala nya ang mga makamatay nga mga halas. Kay nadungog nya nga naghinulsol sila, gisugo nya si Moses nga maghimo ug "bronze snake" aron maluwas/mabuhi kadtong motan-aw sa halas. (Numbers 21:4-9) Wala mag-ingon ang Dios nga ampoi ninyo ang halas aron mo maluwas ug mabuhi. Kay ang tinuod nga Kristiyano gisugo sa Dios nga mag-ampo diha kaniya lamang ug wala nay lain pa.

    Sa laing bahin, ang cherubim dili kana anghel.

    The definitive book in the Bible on Cherubims is the Book of Ezekiel. When they first appear in chapter one, when Ezekiel was "by the river Chebar", they are not called cherubims, but he saw "the likeness of four living creatures". (Ezekiel 1:5) Each of them had four faces and four wings, with straight feet with a sole like the sole of a calf's foot, and "hands of a man" under their wings. Each had four faces: The face of a man, the face of a lion on the right side, the face of an ox on the left side, and the face of an eagle. (Ezekiel 1:6-10) The Cherubims were beneath the likeness of a throne in Ezekiel 1:26, but the Seraphims, (with six wings each,) of Isaiah 6:1-7 were above the throne there. Seraphims and Cherubims are not called angels in the Bible. (The holy angels in the Bible, where they appear, are always men without wings.)
    Cherub - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    im a catholic and still in union with the church....

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