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  1. #2721

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliff_drew View Post
    Let's start with how "pagpanguros" started. It started way back fourth century, when pagan Emperor Constantine became a convert to apostate Christianity and promoted the cross as its symbol. Whatever his reasons, it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. Logic will tell that what was promoted as a symbol of Christianity was in fact pagan in origin.
    Koreksyon lang gamay, bay cliff_drew. Wala pa matawo si Constantine, nag-exist na ang pagpanguros.

    Matud sa Jewish Enclopedia:

    The cross as a Christian symbol or "seal" came into use at least as early as the second century (see "Apost. Const." iii. 17; Epistle of Barnabas, xi.-xii.; Justin, "Apologia," i. 55-60; "Dial. cum Tryph." 85-97); and the marking of a cross upon the forehead and the chest was regarded as a talisman against the powers of demons (Tertullian, "De Corona," iii.; Cyprian, "Testimonies," xi. 21-22; Lactantius, "Divinæ Institutiones," iv. 27, and elsewhere). Accordingly the Christian Fathers had to defend themselves, as early as the second century, against the charge of being worshipers of the cross, as may be learned from Tertullian, "Apologia," xii., xvii., and Minucius Felix, "Octavius," xxix. Christians used to swear by the power of the cross.

    src: Christian symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Matud pud ni Tertullian (circa 160 A.D.) sa iyang sinulat nga libro nga De cor. Mil., iii:

    in all our coming in and going out, in putting of our shoes, at the bath, at the table, in lighting our candles, in lying down, in sitting down, whatever employment occupieth us, we mark our foreheads with the sign of the cross


    So kung sayop ang pagpanguros, nganong gi-defend man sa mga early christian believers ang maong practice?

  2. #2722

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE SKULLS View Post
    (2 Corinthians 6:14-18; Exodus 20:4, 5; 1 Corinthians 10:14)

    basa lang. wala lagi ng pulong pagpanguros sa bibliya. buhat sad ka'g imo da.
    So wala kay makit-an sa bible nga gidili ang sign of the cross?

  3. #2723

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    So natubag na siguro ang pangutana bahin sa cross. Karon kun dili pa gyud mo motuo, dili pud ta angay mamugos. Respeto lang ta sa nagkalahi-lahi nga pagtoo.

    Sayang lang ang atong pagka-attend2x og worship kada sunday unya kusog kaayo ta manghimantay sa pagtoo sa atong isigkatawo.

  4. #2724

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    Unsa diay imu Religion Skulls?

    Kay for sure dile ka Catholic and normally,mau jd na, you question about our practices and beliefs then...para nimu sakto mu or unsa...naa sa bible or wala...
    Unsa may resulta? ... ang ending ana bro kita gipahun tanan maka sasala, nilabag ba ta or wala, hinoon ang Ginoo ramn pd ang magboot kung unsaon niya, so far wala rmn pd me ge gabaan nganu nanguros me, if ge dile man gyud na or wala... He doesn't mind, as long as we have faith mau na ang importante...

    Love thy neighbors bro Kana sure ko naa nas bibliya!

    Sa tinodanay lang, sapoton jd ko anang mga taw mag cge ingun ah kana wala bible then mag quote dayun, walay blema mag quote2x gd, ang ako lang maayu kau mu question2x sa uban, kay kuno wlay dire wala dito, murag sa ilang panan-aw dakoooo na kaung sayup....I hope pd unta nga tnan actions pd nimu mag reflect sa unsang naa sa Bible.

    Last edited by petite fleur; 09-05-2011 at 12:14 AM.

  5. #2725

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    Suicide - in a sense, is MURDER. Catholic church or any Christian denomination believes in the sanctity of life. It is not ours to take.
    pero kung mangayo ta ug pasaylo pagkahuman nato ug suicide (patay na ta ani)... ma pasaylo pa kaha ta? nangutana lang ko. honest Q ni.

  6. #2726

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    Quote Originally Posted by -shinobi- View Post
    pero kung mangayo ta ug pasaylo pagkahuman nato ug suicide (patay na ta ani)... ma pasaylo pa kaha ta? nangutana lang ko. honest Q ni.
    Suwaya daw bro nya ingna me sa imung sitwasyun, hehehe, so far mga buhi pmn ang naa dre, dile pd me katubag ana.

  7. #2727

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    @shinobi: GOD is the infinite source of LOVE and at the same time, the infinite source of JUSTICE. Considering nga finite lang ang kahibalo sa tawo, murag lisud gyud ni tubagon ang imong pangutana. Ang DIOS ra gyud makatubag ana.

  8. #2728

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    Siya ra jd ang nakahibalo sa tnan. Amen.

  9. #2729

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    Quote Originally Posted by petite fleur View Post
    Siya ra jd ang nakahibalo sa tnan. Amen.
    mao jud!

    meaning pwde ghapon misahan!!! basa ghapon ta ani manual?

  10. #2730

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruji119 View Post
    mao jud!

    meaning pwde ghapon misahan!!! basa ghapon ta ani manual?
    wala jd ko nag ingun dle! kung ako ang pangutan on, nganung dile man? sa akoa lang na.

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