Religion needs immediate extermination

[nitwit]

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i beg to disagree, Bible has so much to do with morality. The bible has molded, nourished, morality alot. The bible can be a very good guide of leaving a peaceful life.
im not saying god exists as what the bible have said, all im saying the bible is a very good guide of a becoming at peace w/ yourself.

who created the bible sir? and how sure are you that whatever is written there are truthful? what about those other religions that dont have bibles?

its not that since we can see god and no one can prove that god exists that i dont believe that there is god. i am not one of those close-minded people,i am certain that someone is responsible for creating the world that we are now. i havent read the bible so i dont really know whats in there aside from what my catholic friends told.theyre testaments arent they? how the world was created and the good deed christ did?


theres really one religion that fascinates me and thats judaism. i have worked with jews for so many years and so far i havent seen flaws but im sure there is. its a part in judaism that jews are taught to be good at business or making money but it is against their religion that they overprice. and jewish people help one another during calamities. like here, the richest jew offer free nursing home accomodation to those old jews that cant look after themselves anymore and those that doesnt have families. i think this is a very good thing and i think the other religions should be like this? not preying on the weak instead.

for a person like me who doesnt have any religion, if we hear all these horrendous and disgusting stories about priests abusing young people, and the corruptions made inside churches and etc, no offense but it just make me think that i am better off where i am. believing of the goodness of some people,im sure not all priests are bad or catholics or muslims are all bad, just some.

like ive said in my earlier posts, religions are becomign more so of a money making business nowadays. its not the religion that has a problem, its the people who wrongly run it are the ones responsible for all these scandals and why some people dont like to believe in religions.

[redhorse1L]

OT: hahaha.. im quite fascinated by your wits sir rods, even on music you never fail to amaze us.. quite true on your thought on John Lennon's "Imagine"..

TS, quit your reasons and "Let it be"... :-p

So let it be written, so let it be done!! -Creeping death by Metallica-

[yanong_banikanhon]

Respeto ra gyud sa tagsa2x ka pagtoo ang atong gikinahanglan, mga parekoy. Dili na man kinahanglan magpalabwana'y o maghinambugay ta kinsa ang sakto. To each his own.

This thread should be close by mods kay debate ra man gyud ang kapaingnan ani. Inflammatory ug offensive kining maong thread alang sa mga tawo nga religious (by the way, I'm not religious but I believe in the existence of the ultimate, transcendental CAUSE).

[batang_bronse]

anti pinoy rip off way bag.o dha?

[Eve's Apple Project]

i live by the morals taught by my parents. i dont need a bible just for the sake of knowing whats the right thing,you can always tell whats the right thing. there are laws and punishment to those who break the rules im pretty sure you dont need religion to know whats right.

i have nothing agaisnt religious people, like ive said,i admire their strong faith and all the things they believe it but whats applicable to one might not be to the other one.

mind if i ask you this question sir? how many theists commit sins more than atheists? the thing about religion here,its not about the number, are the religious people really doing whats being asked to be done by their gods?

religion is becoming more so a business nowadays. there was no such thing as church when christ led. he prrayed with his disciples on the hills, he didnt ask anyone for donations, he was even the one whose been the giver but whats happenning nowadays?

we have all these churches, gigantic ones. but they dont even can be a shelter of those people whose got no homes. how many priests have you seen that dont have cars? i bet you my bottom dollar that everyone of them got cars. where do you think their money come from? all from those who give donations hoping to get some lucks. they prey on the weak .

like ive said, i respect all religions but i just have seen too many people getting hurt and abused because of this said religion but to those religious people let them be if having faith is something they think they need to stand still when standing is no longer easy in life.

I agree with some of your points but some are intriguing to me. religion like any other organization always has flaws. walay perfect nga group. Yes we can easily count the number of religious people who commit sins simply because dali ra kaayo sila makit-an sa kadako sa church. & yes, it is because of the numbers. atheist number is growing man sad but who is counting? agree ko nga the church has not done their part on helping the poor (maybe nakatabang gamay but kulang pa). but the sad reality is, it was supposed to be our gov'ts job to eradicate poverty ( & not the church). we are oblige pay taxes for them to serve us. I am not 100 percent for the church but i understand that they serve a purpose.

on priest havign cars...hmmm, not all priest jud. my uncle is a priest, & he doesn't have a car, he only relies on what the parish has for him to use. sometimes he gets lucky to have a good car, sometimes he will settle on a kia pride..haha

[butong101]

who created the bible sir? and how sure are you that whatever is written there are truthful? what about those other religions that dont have bibles?

MAN CREATED THE BIBLE. IM NOT SAYING WHATEVER IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE IS TRUE, ALL IM SAYING WAS THAT THE BIBLE HAS DONE ALOT OF THINGS TO NOURISH, IMPROVE MORALITY. e.g. the bible is advocating women empowerment during the very time its considered taboo

its not that since we can see god and no one can prove that god exists that i dont believe that there is god. i am not one of those close-minded people,i am certain that someone is responsible for creating the world that we are now. i havent read the bible so i dont really know whats in there aside from what my catholic friends told.theyre testaments arent they? how the world was created and the good deed christ did?
IM NOT TOUCHING THE ISSUE OF GOD. MY RESPONSE WERE ONLY LIMITED TO YOUR STATEMENT THAT SOMEHOW ESPOUSES THAT THE BIBLE HAS NO USE AT ALL..

theres really one religion that fascinates me and thats judaism.
CHRISTIANITY IS AN EVOLUTION OF JUDAISM..

i have worked with jews for so many years and so far i havent seen flaws but im sure there is. its a part in judaism that jews are taught to be good at business or making money but it is against their religion that they overprice. and jewish people help one another during calamities. like here, the richest jew offer free nursing home accomodation to those old jews that cant look after themselves anymore and those that doesnt have families. i think this is a very good thing and i think the other religions should be like this? not preying on the weak instead.

for a person like me who doesnt have any religion, if we hear all these horrendous and disgusting stories about priests abusing young people, and the corruptions made inside churches and etc, no offense but it just make me think that i am better off where i am. believing of the goodness of some people,im sure not all priests are bad or catholics or muslims are all bad, just some.

like ive said in my earlier posts, religions are becomign more so of a money making business nowadays. its not the religion that has a problem, its the people who wrongly run it are the ones responsible for all these scandals and why some people dont like to believe in religions.

THE PROBLEM IS THE PEOPLE not the doctrine.
if we're going to exterminate religion just because of the shortcomings of its leaders, its just like EXTERMINATING earth because its people are not functioning very well.. hehe

[rodsky]

its just like EXTERMINATING earth because its people are not functioning very well.. hehe

Interesting analogy, but it has a basic flaw--if man is just one of the many organisms living on this planet, the phrase "not functioning very well" does not describe our situation accurately, because if we weren't functioning very well, we should have been extinct many hundreds and thousands of years ago. But we are still here, and quite thriving too.

-RODION

[butong101]

who created the bible sir? and how sure are you that whatever is written there are truthful? what about those other religions that dont have bibles?

its not that since we can see god and no one can prove that god exists that i dont believe that there is god. i am not one of those close-minded people,i am certain that someone is responsible for creating the world that we are now. i havent read the bible so i dont really know whats in there aside from what my catholic friends told.theyre testaments arent they? how the world was created and the good deed christ did?


theres really one religion that fascinates me and thats judaism. i have worked with jews for so many years and so far i havent seen flaws but im sure there is. its a part in judaism that jews are taught to be good at business or making money but it is against their religion that they overprice. and jewish people help one another during calamities. like here, the richest jew offer free nursing home accomodation to those old jews that cant look after themselves anymore and those that doesnt have families. i think this is a very good thing and i think the other religions should be like this? not preying on the weak instead.

for a person like me who doesnt have any religion, if we hear all these horrendous and disgusting stories about priests abusing young people, and the corruptions made inside churches and etc, no offense but it just make me think that i am better off where i am. believing of the goodness of some people,im sure not all priests are bad or catholics or muslims are all bad, just some.

like ive said in my earlier posts, religions are becomign more so of a money making business nowadays. its not the religion that has a problem, its the people who wrongly run it are the ones responsible for all these scandals and why some people dont like to believe in religions.

Interesting analogy, but it has a basic flaw--if man is just one of the many organisms living on this planet, the phrase "not functioning very well" does not describe our situation accurately, because if we weren't functioning very well, we should have been extinct many hundreds and thousands of years ago. But we are still here, and quite thriving too.

-RODION

OT:
NOT FUNCTIONING VERY WELL
subjective and relative man gd nah sir, my bad wala nko na define correctly.

[EsoyLegaspi]

Religion needs immediate extermination - yes - agree, but what do we replace it with? Obviously we share the same frustration with "religion", because those that were supposed to guide us, guide our leaders, guide our people as shepherds have long abandoned the fundamental principles that Christ taught them. Hence, there are thousands of "christians" versions preaching how to go to heaven.

Those who are to lead us are no different than the story of the good samaritan that JC taught. Prients, rabbi, just turning a blind eye on the victim. That is exactly what is happening to us-oblivious to the misery around us. Many of us are guilty of this as well- we are waiting for the good samaritan to do the job for us. Hence, all the misery, calamity we are encountering is because of things we do or do not do that we should do.

Worse frustration is when the both are government and church are sleeping with each other. I scratch your back you scratch my back. (Sleeping with the enemy) Pretending to be on different sides of the fence but actually sleep together.

The church and leaders of religious groups are very powerful but they are afraid of politicians that can look into their income if they expose these people.

Before it get to emotional, I just wish to end my line with whom do we replace if we exterminate the religious leaders? They ain't perfect, but if they continue to prevail because of things we should do but don't bother to do. Everything begins with us and our future is a result of what we do today.

[nitwit]

I agree with some of your points but some are intriguing to me. religion like any other organization always has flaws. walay perfect nga group. Yes we can easily count the number of religious people who commit sins simply because dali ra kaayo sila makit-an sa kadako sa church. & yes, it is because of the numbers. atheist number is growing man sad but who is counting? agree ko nga the church has not done their part on helping the poor (maybe nakatabang gamay but kulang pa). but the sad reality is, it was supposed to be our gov'ts job to eradicate poverty ( & not the church). we are oblige pay taxes for them to serve us. I am not 100 percent for the church but i understand that they serve a purpose.

on priest havign cars...hmmm, not all priest jud. my uncle is a priest, & he doesn't have a car, he only relies on what the parish has for him to use. sometimes he gets lucky to have a good car, sometimes he will settle on a kia pride..haha

thats what i was saying maam, its not the religion its the people who run the religion.

if its not the church's responsibility to help out the poor then what would they do with all the money? the catholic church is the world's richest religion and yet most of its believers are living in sh*tholes. whats the purpose of the churches's money?just to keep building churches? what for?for tourist and fame?

i have nothing against the religion,i even admire christ's wisdom but i am very angry with the people who run the religion how could they be this cruel? they have all the money in the world yet they dont wanna share it to the most needy ones? i dont think you can consider that as asking too much. for me it doesnt make sense building all these gigantic churches when the money is better off spent something more important. there was no church when christ leads.