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    Quote Originally Posted by florida.blanca View Post
    the figures won't lie. pagresearch para makahibaw ka!

    giusik usik ra jud nimu aku kagwapa!
    What figures are you talking about?

    Read this para ma-educate ka gamay. Makuhaan gamay ang stupidity bah...

    Originally Posted by Orion Pérez Dumdum

    The Philippines was a world apart from us, running a different style of politics and government under an American military umbrella. It was not until January 1974 that I visited President Marcos in Manila. When my Singapore Airlines plane flew into Philippine airspace, a small squadron of Philippine Air Force jet fighters escorted it to Manila Airport. There Marcos received me in great style – the Filipino way. I was put up at the guest wing of Malacañang Palace in lavishly furnished rooms, valuable objects of art bought in Europe strewn all over. Our hosts were gracious, extravagant in hospitality, flamboyant. Over a thousand miles of water separated us. There was no friction and little trade. We played golf, talked about the future of ASEAN, and promised to keep in touch.

    His foreign minister, Carlos P. Romulo, was a small man of about five feet some 20 years my senior, with a ready wit and a self-deprecating manner about his size and other limitations. Romulo had a good sense of humor, an eloquent tongue, and a sharp pen, and was an excellent dinner companion because he was a wonderful raconteur, with a vast repertoire of anecdotes and witticisms. He did not hide his great admiration for the Americans. One of his favourite stories was about his return to the Philippines with General MacArthur. As MacArthur waded ashore at Leyte, the water reached his knees but came up to Romulo’s chest and he had to swim ashore. His good standing with ASEAN leaders and with Americans increased the prestige of the Marcos administration. Marcos had in Romulo a man of honor and integrity who helped give a gloss of respectability to his regime as it fell into disrepute in the 1980s.

    In Bali in 1976, at the first ASEAN summit held after the fall of Saigon, I found Marcos keen to push for greater economic cooperation in ASEAN. But we could not go faster than the others. To set the pace, Marcos and I agreed to implement a bilateral Philippines-Singapore across-the-board 10 percent reduction of existing tariffs on all products and to promote intra-ASEAN trade. We also agreed to lay a Philippines-Singapore submarine cable. I was to discover that for him, the communiqué was the accomplishment itself; its implementation was secondary, an extra to be discussed at another conference.

    We met every two to three years. He once took me on a tour of his library at Malacañang, its shelves filled with bound volumes of newspapers reporting his activities over the years since he first stood for elections. There were encyclopedia-size volumes on the history and culture of the Philippines with his name as the author. His campaign medals as an anti-Japanese guerrilla leader were displayed in glass cupboards. He was the undisputed boss of all Filipinos. Imelda, his wife, had a penchant for luxury and opulence. When they visited Singapore before the Bali summit they came in stye in two DC8’s, his and hers.

    Marcos did not consider China a threat for the immediate future, unlike Japan. He did not rule out the possibility of an aggressive Japan, if circumstances changed. He had memories of the horrors the Imperial Army had inflicted on Manila. We had strongly divergent views on the Vietnamese invasion and occupation of Cambodia. While he, pro forma, condemned the Vietnamese occupation, he did not consider it a danger to the Philippines. There was the South China Sea separating them and the American navy guaranteed their security. As a result, Marcos was not active on the Cambodian question. Moreover, he was to become preoccupied with the deteriorating security in his country.

    Marcos, ruling under martial law, had detained opposition leader Benigno (Ninoy) Aquino, reputed to be as charismatic and powerful a campaigner as he was. He freed Aquino and allowed him to go to the United States. As the economic situation in the Philippines deteriorated, Aquino announced his decision to return. Mrs. Marcos issued several veiled warnings. When the plane arrived at Manila Airport from Taipei in August 1983, he was shot as he descended from the aircraft. A whole posse of foreign correspondents with television camera crews accompanying him on the aircraft was not enough protection.

    International outrage over the killing resulted in foreign banks stopping all loans to the Philippines, which owed over US$25 billion and could not pay the interest due. This brought Marcos to the crunch. He sent his minister for trade and industry, Bobby Ongpin, to ask me for a loan of US$300-500 million to meet the interest payments. I looked him straight in the eye and said, “We will never see that money back.” Moreover, I added, everyone knew that Marcos was seriously ill and under constant medication for a wasting disease. What was needed was a strong, healthy leader, not more loans.

    Shortly afterward, in February 1984, Marcos met me in Brunei at the sultanate’s independence celebrations. He had undergone a dramatic physical change. Although less puffy than he had appeared on television, his complexion was dark as if he had been out in the sun. He was breathing hard as he spoke, his voice was soft, eyes bleary, and hair thinning. He looked most unhealthy. An ambulance with all the necessary equipment and a team of Filipino doctors were on standby outside his guest bungalow. Marcos spent much of the time giving me a most improbable story of how Aquino had been shot.

    As soon as all our aides left, I went straight to the point, that no bank was going to lend him any money. They wanted to know who was going to succeed him if anything were to happen to him; all the bankers could see that he no longer looked healthy. Singapore banks had lent US$8 billion of the US$25 billion owing. The hard fact was they were not likely to get repayment for some 20 years. He countered that it would be only eight years. I said the bankers wanted to see a strong leader in the Philippines who could restore stability, and the Americans hoped the election in May would throw up someone who could be such a leader. I asked whom he would nominate for the election. He said Prime Minister Cesar Virata. I was blunt. Virata was a nonstarter, a first-class administrator but no political leader; further, his most politically astute colleague, defense minister Juan Ponce Enrile, was out of favour. Marcos was silent, then he admitted that succession was the nub of the problem. If he could find a successor, there would be a solution. As I left, he said, “You are a true friend.” I did not understand him. It was a strange meeting.

    With medical care, Marcos dragged on. Cesar Virata met me in Singapore in January the following year. He was completely guileless, a political innocent. He said that Mrs. Imelda Marcos was likely to be nominated as the presidential candidate. I asked how that could be when there were other weighty candidates, including Juan Ponce Enrile and Blas Ople, the labor minister. Virata replied it had to do with “flow of money; she would have more money than other candidates to pay for the votes needed for nomination by the party and to win the election.

    ...

    The difference lies in the culture of the Filipino people. It is a soft, forgiving culture. Only in the Philippines could a leader like Ferdinand Marcos, who pillaged his country for over 20 years, still be considered for a national burial. Insignificant amounts of the loot have been recovered, yet his wife and children were allowed to return and engage in politics. They supported the winning presidential and congressional candidates with their considerable resources and reappeared in the political and social limelight after the 1998 election that returned President Joseph Estrada. General Fabian Ver, Marcos’s commander-in-chief who had been in charge of security when Aquino was assassinated, had fled the Philippines together with Marcos in 1986. When he died in Bangkok, the Estrada government gave the general military honors at his burial. One Filipino newspaper, Today, wrote on 22 November 1998, “Ver, Marcos and the rest of the official family plunged the country into two decades of lies, torture, and plunder. Over the next decade, Marcos’s cronies and immediate family would tiptoe back into the country, one by one – always to the public’s revulsion and disgust, though they showed that there was nothing that hidden money and thick hides could not withstand.” Some Filipinos write and speak with passion. If they could get their elite to share their sentiments and act, what could they not have achieved?

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  2. #532

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    OT:
    Dapat kanang mga C.I.A, mao unta na ang unang magtinarong. Tsk.tsk.tsk...sayang taas ra ba unta akong pagtan-aw sa mga istoryan nga dunay C.I.A status.

    Booo! Para sa mga C.I.A nga mokonsinter ug mo-praise sa mga trolls. Nagpakaulaw lang mo sa mga tarong nga C.I.A diri sa istorya.net.
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 07-09-2011 at 08:07 PM.

  3. #533

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    better close this thread....

    wala mani pa dulngan styla.

    agree or disagree?

    Mods pls....
    Last edited by Deadstring67; 07-09-2011 at 08:37 PM.

  4. #534

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    Bitaw, dapat dugay na ning gi-close nga thread oy. Sagbot kaayo tan-awon. Naa pay mga members nga taas na man unta'g status diri sa istorya unya mao nooy nagpabadlong.

  5. #535

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    i move a motion to close this thread, or e-transfer na lang sa humor section then close the thread, para mo-drop post count sa mga ni post diri, of course apil nako

  6. #536

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Dapat kanang mga C.I.A, mao unta na ang unang magtinarong. Tsk.tsk.tsk...sayang taas ra ba unta akong pagtan-aw sa mga istoryan nga dunay C.I.A status.
    ases ilarun pajud ko nimo
    ikaw ray nagpadaghan ug post count!
    kaclaro ana
    what a user! LOL

    do you think that i am that stupid to not know?
    dude grow up
    i'm not that stupid to not smell your modus!

  7. #537

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    Ikaw man ang angay'ng 'mogrow-up', inday. Kay imong giilad-ilad ang mga posters diri. Mura kunohay og against ka sa position ni TS sa sinugdan. Pero bisan unsaon nimo'g tago2x, mogawas gyud ang inyong kalambigitan ni dong Florido.

  8. #538

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Ikaw man ang angay'ng 'mogrow-up', inday. Kay imong giilad-ilad ang mga posters diri. Mura kunohay og against ka sa position ni TS sa sinugdan. Pero bisan unsaon nimo'g tago2x, mogawas gyud ang inyong kalambigitan ni dong Florido.
    ikaw rajuy nagtuo ana. kaloi nimo oi
    abi naku stupid ka
    di man diay
    delusional naka

    besides you don't know her
    i do LOL

    it's not my fault that we are friends and you are insecure
    kanang IMONG modus istop nana!
    asus kapila naka sgeg copy paste ana!
    spamming ang tawag ana!

    stupidity is better than delusional
    just like those filipinos whose morality has been twisted by their delusions!
    ang mali ay nagiging tama!

  9. #539

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    Hehehe...wala na gyud ka'y laing palusot, kana ra gyu'ng word nga 'insecure'?

    Wala man tawon na sa akong vocabulary, inday. Igo ra man kong nagsulti sa tinuod aning inyong style ni florido. Pasumangil ka nga against ka sa iyang mga post para kunohay maka-catch mog attention. Pero mogawas man gyud ang imong baho kadugayan. Sama karon.

    Naunsa man ning C.I.A nga mao man noon nag-una2x.

    P.S. Akong tan-aw, tanan nimong reply halos naa'y word nga 'insecure'. Ngano kaha?
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 07-09-2011 at 08:49 PM.

  10. #540

    Default Re: Is the Filipino a Stupid Creature?

    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Hehehe...wala na gyud ka'y laing palusot, kana ra gyu'ng word nga 'insecure'?

    Wala man tawon na sa akong vocabulary, inday. Igo ra man kong nagsulti sa tinuod aning inyong style ni florido. Pasumangil ka nga against ka sa iyang mga post para kunohay maka-catch mog attention. Pero mogawas man gyud ang imong baho kadugayan. Sama karon.

    Naunsa man ning C.I.A nga mao man noon nag-una2x.

    Akong tan-aw, tanan nimong reply halos naa'y word nga 'insecure'. Ngano kaha?
    sigh nimo yaningskeeee
    nasuya jud ka nga layo paka ma CIA hahahaa
    pgsgeg post para ma CIA dayun ka


    i know that you are stupid just like me
    but at least you should try to post opinions sa mga forum oi para di ka mainsecure sa akong pagka CIA
    kasayun ra ana oi!
    kadaghan nang CIA diri,
    nawa si florida oh, 500 na kapin hahahaha
    maapsan jud ka!

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