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    Quote Originally Posted by CocoCrunch View Post
    how can you justify or tell the things you are reading/watching are correct and in the right path? what if the other thing you badly don't want to accept as the truth is the correct one?
    maglagot ko.
    manglawgaw na lang ko diri kung mao na.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    The "wrong guys" are those that have claims without authority and without peer-evaluation from similar scientific entities around the world.

    A good analogy is this:

    Would you rob a bank? If you're not desperate or crazy, naturally your response would be, "Of course not!"

    Why? "Because it is against the law!"

    Who said it's against the law? "The people in government or the authorities!"

    Then, stopping at this point, what you just said (i.e. "Who are the wrong guys, with the wrong links?") implies that the links that people like me share in this thread are "possibly false" or "not authoritative". But that's just like saying that "Cebu City Police are NOT authoritative!" or "The Philippine Army is NOT an authority!" so then, THE_SKULLS, perhaps you should rob a bank, because you can always argue that the local police and army cannot possibly arrest you because "these guys could be wrong--they could NOT be authoritative"...kay kinsa man nag declare sa ila bi nga dapat "authorized" sila manakop nimo if you robbed a bank? Naturally, a MAJORITY of citizens have declared that they are in fact, the authorities, even if a handful of crazy crooks believe that they are not in authority.

    Same thing with your allegations that our links are NOT "authoritative" or "cannot be trusted" (when in fact, the links we share are indeed sources of authority that has been peer-evaluated by a MAJORITY of various scientific communities around the world)...you're just like expressing a mistrust for the police or the army.

    So again, you might as well rob a bank, if you really believe in what you're saying.

    -RODION
    Haha, nice analogy MASTER.
    The government and the Authority are always right.
    Same with the moderators who are the authority here.
    They should always be right, right?
    And the people who argue against the athourity are against the law.
    They are like me and I should be the one wrong.

    Ok.
    Let start ANALYZING SITUATION

    Here I copied a timeline of Neil Armstrong.
    We will try to discuss and analyze why.

    In 1962, he resolved to become an astronaut and became America's first nonmilitary astronaut in September 1962.
    On March 15, 1962 he was in the list of the six pilot-engineers who would fly the space plane once the plane was ready.
    In 1962, on the 20th of April, he met with an accident, during his X-15 flight. He hardly managed to land safely.
    On May 21, 1962, Armstrong was a part of the "Nellis Affair". He was sent in a F-104 to examine Delamar Lake, for emergency landings.
    It was declared that Armstrong would be the Command Pilot for Gemini 8 and that he would be accompanied by Pilot David Scott.
    In 1966, he was aboard Gemini 8, which marked his first space flight!
    In 1969, he became a part of NASA. In the month of January of the same year, he was chosen to be a member of the Apollo 11 mission. They were going to make history on successfully landing on moon.
    On the 16th of July, Armstrong, joined by astronauts Edwin Aldrin and Michael Collins left the Kennedy Space Center and started their journey to the moon!
    20th July 1969 was "The Day", the day when a man on earth for the first time stepped on the moon. Neil Armstrong was the first earthly being to step on the moon.
    On 24th of July, they returned to their mother Earth.
    Armstrong won the Presidential Medal for Freedom and the Robert J. Collier Trophy in the same year.
    In 1970, he was honored with the Robert H. Goddard Memorial Trophy.
    In May 1970, Armstrong went to the Soviet Union to speak on Space Research, at the 13th annual conference of the International Committee.

    1.)He resigned from NASA in 1971 and started working at the University of Cincinnati in Ohio.

    Seven years later that is in 1978, he was given the Congressional Space Medal of Honor.

    2.)In 1980 Armstrong became the chairman of Cardwell International, a supplier of oil-drilling equipment.

    3.)In 1986 he became the vice-chairman of Challenger inquiry to find the cause of explosion of the Challenger space shuttle.

    4.)He later worked with the EDO Corporation.

    Armstrong married Carol Knight on June 12, 1994. This was his second marriage.
    He was troubled when Hallmark Cards used one of his quotes in a Christmas ornament without his permission. He sued them for that in 1994.

    5.)He retired from the post of Chairman of Board, from the EDO Corporation in 2002.

    In October 2004, Purdue University announced that they were going to name their new engineering building as Neil Armstrong Hall of Engineering.

    6.)In May 2005 Armstrong had a strange battle with his barber who had sold his hair after cutting them and made money in the name of Armstrong.
    Last edited by Soul Doctor; 07-08-2011 at 09:55 PM.

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    "1.)He resigned from NASA in 1971 and started working at the University of Cincinnati in Ohio."

    With all his success and accomplishments in the field of space travel.
    Why would he resign two years after he went to the moon.?
    He might easily be the potential candidate for director of NASA.

    How much do you earn from NASA compared to what you will earn in a University?

    "1971 Aldrin returned to the Air Force and retired a year later.
    He wrote two important books about his activities in the U.S. space program.
    In Return to Earth (1970), Aldrin recounted the flight of Apollo 11.
    In the more broadly constructed Men from Earth (1989),
    Aldrin discussed the entire space race between the United States and the Soviet Union."

    Why?
    Did the Air Force pay more than NASA?

    "In January 1970, Collins left NASA to become the Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs. A year later he joined the Smithsonian Institution as the Director of the National Air and Space Museum, where he remained for seven years. While in this position, he was responsible for the construction of the new museum building, which opened to the public in July 1976, ahead of schedule and below its budgeted cost. In April 1978, Collins became Under Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution."

    Why did they all resigned?
    Why would he prefer working for a museum rather than being an astronaut?
    Last edited by Soul Doctor; 07-08-2011 at 09:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Haha, nice analogy MASTER.
    The government and the Authority are always right.
    Same with the moderators who are the authority here.
    They should always be right, right?
    And the people who argue against the athourity are against the law.
    They are like me and I should be the one wrong.

    Ok.
    Let start ANALYZING SITUATION

    Here I copied a timeline of Neil Armstorng.
    We will try to discuss and analyze why.

    In 1962, he resolved to become an astronaut and became America's first nonmilitary astronaut in September 1962.
    On March 15, 1962 he was in the list of the six pilot-engineers who would fly the space plane once the plane was ready.
    In 1962, on the 20th of April, he met with an accident, during his X-15 flight. He hardly managed to land safely.
    On May 21, 1962, Armstrong was a part of the "Nellis Affair". He was sent in a F-104 to examine Delamar Lake, for emergency landings.
    It was declared that Armstrong would be the Command Pilot for Gemini 8 and that he would be accompanied by Pilot David Scott.
    In 1966, he was aboard Gemini 8, which marked his first space flight!
    In 1969, he became a part of NASA. In the month of January of the same year, he was chosen to be a member of the Apollo 11 mission. They were going to make history on successfully landing on moon.
    On the 16th of July, Armstrong, joined by astronauts Edwin Aldrin and Michael Collins left the Kennedy Space Center and started their journey to the moon!
    20th July 1969 was "The Day", the day when a man on earth for the first time stepped on the moon. Neil Armstrong was the first earthly being to step on the moon.
    On 24th of July, they returned to their mother Earth.
    Armstrong won the Presidential Medal for Freedom and the Robert J. Collier Trophy in the same year.
    In 1970, he was honored with the Robert H. Goddard Memorial Trophy.
    In May 1970, Armstrong went to the Soviet Union to speak on Space Research, at the 13th annual conference of the International Committee.

    1.)He resigned from NASA in 1971 and started working at the University of Cincinnati in Ohio.

    Seven years later that is in 1978, he was given the Congressional Space Medal of Honor.

    2.)In 1980 Armstrong became the chairman of Cardwell International, a supplier of oil-drilling equipment.

    3.)In 1986 he became the vice-chairman of Challenger inquiry to find the cause of explosion of the Challenger space shuttle.

    4.)He later worked with the EDO Corporation.

    Armstrong married Carol Knight on June 12, 1994. This was his second marriage.
    He was troubled when Hallmark Cards used one of his quotes in a Christmas ornament without his permission. He sued them for that in 1994.

    5.)He retired from the post of Chairman of Board, from the EDO Corporation in 2002.

    In October 2004, Purdue University announced that they were going to name their new engineering building as Neil Armstrong Hall of Engineering.

    6.)In May 2005 Armstrong had a strange battle with his barber who had sold his hair after cutting them and made money in the name of Armstrong.
    Quit copying and pasting. If you can't help it, at least cite your source.

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    watch and listen closely to his speech at the white house during the 25th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission.

    YouTube - ‪Neil Armstrong's cryptic speech‬‏

    Notice the sadness in his face before the speech.

    "Today, we have here with us
    a group of students
    among America's best."

    "To you, we say, WE'VE only completed a BEGINNING"

    "We leave you MUCH that is UNDONE"

    "There are GREAT IDEAS undiscovered."

    "Breakthroughs available to those who can REMOVE
    one of TRUTH'S PROTECTIVE LAYERS".

    Why would he say remove one of truth's protective layer?
    Isnt it a strange thing to say?

    Because in science, there is no protective layer for truth!
    There is no protective layer in discovering the stars and the moon and space!

    What does this speech tells us.
    READ BETWEEN THE LINES.

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    Did I ever ask you to stop copy pasting?
    You want me to type those words one by one?
    That to you is a smart thing to do?
    Why use a mouse in the first place.
    Throw away your mouse if you don not copy/paste for convenience.

    And...If I say it in my owns words you probably would say I made this all up.

    Why would you be so hurt with my copy pasting?
    When MASTER RODSKY is doing it most of the time!

    Gibasa nimo Pinoy_09 ang akong introduction?
    Basahag tarung Dong.

    Klaro ana asa nako gikuha na.
    Pahungit pa jud ka?
    Thats not the type of person I want to discuss anything with.
    Kapoy ikaestorya.
    Giingnan na nga Timeline of Neil Armstrong.

    Kini imong buhaton ha.
    Search sa Google ang "Timeline of Neil Armstrong".
    Patudlo sa imong Mama kung maglisod ka Dong ha?
    Last edited by Soul Doctor; 07-08-2011 at 09:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerBreeze View Post
    Just checked out the videos. Well, I still do believe that man landed on the moon but the broadcast that they sent was a fake.
    You may be right BeerBreeze...
    And why would you think they do that if they really landed on the moon?
    That's not logical is it?

    No stars on the pictures and the video.
    Stars can pin point your actual location.
    If they showed you the stars then you probably would know that that scene is not actually on the moon.
    They have to cover the stars!
    In an environment where there is no atmosphere, in this case: "the moon"
    the stars should be MORE VISIBLE.
    Last edited by Soul Doctor; 07-08-2011 at 09:17 AM.

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    hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. deep thingking..

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    I assume 95 percent of the people here in istroya doesnt believe in conspiracy theories.
    Honestly on one of them 95 percent.
    But these 3 i mentioned......
    They are not just conspiracy theories...
    they stimulate my mind.

    @johnkua..
    this is what its all about.
    stimulating the mind.
    open your mind and think.
    could this thing be true?
    or is soul doctor a quack?
    Last edited by Soul Doctor; 07-08-2011 at 09:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leartes View Post
    im posting back my offer...

    one night of healthy debate on conspiracy theories. Im offering 1 case of beer.

    i would like to invite soul doctor, the skulls, rodsky, and all the others who would want to join the discussion.
    minaw lang ko ha...
    nindot ni nga idea imo bro.

    mas nindot kung naay videocam bro. mura bag naa sa newsroom or talkshow ang setting.
    para naay sense ang estorya kay conscious man tanan sa ilang gisulti.
    unya inig kahuman ipost dayon sa youtube.
    mag-invite sad tag outsiders para audience ug part sad sila nga mohatag og questions.
    game ko ani.
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