Is this considered facebook bashing?

[prukutung]

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nope.. counseling within ninyu rah.. important man jud gud mga naai mu-suporta niya.. in that way ma-lessen iyang insecurities.. in that way maka cope-up siya sa siuation..

[acecrystal]

all online sellers especially on facebook make that their consequence and perhaps defense for customers who they think screw up during the transaction... but again,every bogus-seller story varies..dpending on what happened... i am an online buyer but had no problems with transaction,so far... sometimes depending on who you deal with, like if your schedules simply don't meet, then chance would be failure on getting the item...meeting halfway helps and understanding both ends won't hurt

@ TS but despite this rule marked on sellers' homepage,you can still give it a fight in court...

[nitwit]

Hi ts i was the one who created that thread about being sued for libel due to facebook. all i can say to you is,if you really wanna push this forward and make a big deal out of it,its up to you but i have to be honest to you now that if she felt humiliated and stress and pressure and etc those mixed emotions are nothing compared to the pain and stress she will go through soon when she files the case. we're talking about 35k solicitor's fee here, 3.5k for every court hearing, and not to mention the documentation fees and all the bs and there's no guaranteed u will win the case and if u do, one thing is for sure,you will be broke and the dramas that you have to put up with are just not worth it. it costs me alot of money to have the case dismissed although i have been told that it will still be dismissed cause its out of their jurisdiction but we all know whats the justice system in philippines is like.there is never an assurance unless you "give" bribe" for a sure win.

so if you dont mind me asking,if you wish to push this through and make that seller pay for the humiliations she did to your cousin,is your cousin ready for the consequences shes going to face soon?im talking about does she have enough resources cause itll probably takes a year or two at least for a libel, that depends on the judge. and if she thinks shes already been too stressed cause of the public humiliation made by this seller, having a case is 10 times worst believe me. all your lawyer does is demand money for a sure win. its not easy although some people will say that u should fight for your right yes that right!but if u wanna start somethign make sure your gonna finish it otherwise it wont make sense starting anything esp when its gonna cost u alot of money and shes still very young shes better of saving that money and charge it to experience.

[tokidoki]

ako i come across a lot of buyers like that na pasaway kaayo nya wai klaro kasabot. I simply add their name to my personal blacklist and never deal with them again. But, God oi, I wouldn't stoop to that level. Mura mana'g hustler na style iyaha.

[splendid moonlight]

Thanks all. I just really wanted my cousin to know that even though she did something "wrong", the seller also did her wrong. I don't want her to think she deserved how she was treated, because she didn't. Everytime the seller posted her as bogus buyer she included my cousin's work information, full name (apil middle name and surname), and number (unsa, scammer?). My cousin is not a criminal. And being a bogus buyer is not punishable by law, or is it? Naa pay naka apil nga sulat "you deserve this, sis!" Who is she to say that? How many times must she post my cousin's pictures (different pictures pa gyud)? And how come she needed to message my cousin's friends about it? Weren't the pictures enough? Does it help her get customers? Does it help my cousin buy the items? She wanted to teach my cousin a lesson daw. Lesson? I think it's the seller who needed a lesson. I agree with tokidoki, the seller stooped down too low. If you have a bogus buyer, simply never deal with them again and charge it to experience. It's simply not right nga imo gyung i bulgar ug maayo like she did; that's already trying to ruin someone's reputation for selfish reasons. It's as if wala nuon kay salig sa imong kaugalingong produkto. Sheesh.

@nitwit, that topic you opened was really interesting. I was reminded of it right away after hearing of my cousin's problem. Yeah gasto gyud nuon... thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

Btw, my cousin's sister confronted the seller about it because the seller simply wouldn't stop updating her wall about my cousin. She removed all the pictures. Unfortunately, the effect the whole situation had on my cousin cannot be removed as easily as the seller did the pictures.

[wikki]

I have a cousin who was unable to purchase an item that she asked to be reserved. The seller then labeled her as BOGUS BUYER and messaged my cousin's friends on facebook individually and posting pictures of her God knows where. She was unable to purchase the item yes, but she did not steal, and the item is still with the seller. My cousin is very young and is so much affected by what happened. She thinks she has no future now kay I think a lot of her friends on Facebook have been messaged by the seller. I asked her how many times she was unable to buy a reserved item; and she said just this one item.

Grabe na man pud sa ubang mga tawo oi. There are always risks to being a businessperson, pero I don't think it is right to publicly shame anyone kay tungod wa siya ni dayun ug palit. Sure she did something not right within the context of online selling, but my cousin still does not deserve how the seller decided to address the "situation".

My question now is: is this grounds for libel? Unsa kahay pwede niya mabuhat against this person nga gipakauwawan siya? Magkuha na gyud mi ani ug lawyer?

Actually I read on this thread
https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...-facebook.html
that it is indeed grounds for libel. But I just want to know what your thoughts are on this particular situation.

Better if you print a copy of the fb pages with accusations and words from the attacker and get a printed copy of the messages he sent as well. Libel na, pwede na ninyo e kiha. If wa gyud na himotang imong cousin then gastohi na aron ma tagam sad, gamaya sad og utok ana seller gud.

[wikki]

@splendid moonlight - special order diay ang item? if yes then ma sabtan sad ang seller, but sala sad niya he should have asked for a downpayment or any form of collateral aron if dili mu dayun di cya ma lugi.

[nitwit]

Thanks all. I just really wanted my cousin to know that even though she did something "wrong", the seller also did her wrong. I don't want her to think she deserved how she was treated, because she didn't. Everytime the seller posted her as bogus buyer she included my cousin's work information, full name (apil middle name and surname), and number (unsa, scammer?). My cousin is not a criminal. And being a bogus buyer is not punishable by law, or is it? Naa pay naka apil nga sulat "you deserve this, sis!" Who is she to say that? How many times must she post my cousin's pictures (different pictures pa gyud)? And how come she needed to message my cousin's friends about it? Weren't the pictures enough? Does it help her get customers? Does it help my cousin buy the items? She wanted to teach my cousin a lesson daw. Lesson? I think it's the seller who needed a lesson. I agree with tokidoki, the seller stooped down too low. If you have a bogus buyer, simply never deal with them again and charge it to experience. It's simply not right nga imo gyung i bulgar ug maayo like she did; that's already trying to ruin someone's reputation for selfish reasons. It's as if wala nuon kay salig sa imong kaugalingong produkto. Sheesh.

@nitwit, that topic you opened was really interesting. I was reminded of it right away after hearing of my cousin's problem. Yeah gasto gyud nuon... thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

Btw, my cousin's sister confronted the seller about it because the seller simply wouldn't stop updating her wall about my cousin. She removed all the pictures. Unfortunately, the effect the whole situation had on my cousin cannot be removed as easily as the seller did the pictures.

yeah u can sue the seller for what they call as e-libel sis if you really wanna push this through but like ive said i have to be honest to you,the cost and the dramas involved in filing a case is worse than what she is in now. do you have a copy of all the comments the seller made against your cousin? even so,they still need to have it authenticated by the NTC and blah blah blah, not to mention pa sis, wala pa kaayo na nila gi implement ang internet/online libel mao bitaw na dismiss tong akoa but mine was different, my ex bestfriend humiliated herself.i posted all her text messages in fb and tagged her instead of replying to her cause i wanted all out friends to know what kind of thing she really is yet despite my good intention of saving my friends from her i ended up in a big trouble.

[2kELEVEN]

(im referring to the Seller) Naa mana silay gi set nga Terms and condition before ka mo purchase sa ila item... so you have to follow ila rules kay it would be a waste of time sa ilaha nga end if dili pod ka mo inform ahead of time nga imo i cancel out..so Decide sa before ka mo purchase.

[splendid moonlight]

@2K: I understand that part. But the issue here is whether or not it is right to publicly post pictures (repeatedly) and private information (name, work, phone number) of bogus buyers. Siguro scammers makasabot ko, but bogus buyers? Yes bogus buyers are a pain in the ass for sellers (it's a waste of time and energy), but does a person who didn't steal and scam deserve public humiliation? Is the seller's action justified in this case? Sa laktod nga pagka sulti, na HASOL ang seller and clearly decided to inflict suffering on my cousin. But what is the purpose of posting bogus buyers anyway? Isn't it to prevent bogus buyers and to warn other businesspeople about them? If her intention was merely to warn, then posting it on her wall would have sufficed, but instead she messaged my cousin's FB friends as well. There's clearly malice there.

@nitwit: I agree yours was different. I'm not saying what you did was right but I understand that it was an act of frustration/disappointment on your part because your friend really owed you money, but my cousin doesn't owe the seller anything, not a dime.

@wikki: Bitaw maypay naay downpayment. Yes naa mi nakuha nga copy sa iyang gipang post. We're still in the process of collecting copies of the messages she sent to my cousin's friends.