Questions for the Atheists

[pinoy_09]

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sa like diay na basihon hahahaa
ana diay ka mo tan-aw og youtube haha...
thumbs up ko nmo ana sir

Blocked ang youtube diri uy hehehe saonz.

[pinoy_09]

Pero mailhan mana sa youtube comments bai kajrot... Basaha ra gud ang youtube comments.

[kajrot1]

mas importanti pa nuon ang comments kaysa contents haha
anyways d nata mag lalis ani ^_^

balik nlng ta sa topic hahaha

[pinoy_09]

mas importanti pa nuon ang comments kaysa contents haha
anyways d nata mag lalis ani ^_^

balik nlng ta sa topic hahaha

Mao gyud. Sa phone nalang nako gi tan-aw bro. Pero medyo taas man. Thanks for the video though.

[kajrot1]

anyways asa namo c yanong!! bro birit na kay mag observe npd ko sa inyong sumpaki ^_^

[pinoy_09]

anyways asa namo c yanong!! bro birit na kay mag observe npd ko sa inyong sumpaki ^_^

Back read na lang bro.

[WordofGod]

denying God's existence? dont be surpirsed if this will be the outcome of it..

YouTube - ‪Sermon Jams Ravi - Sin‬‏

[treize]

at least, yes! kaysa wala!

and do you have anything against them?

does the roman catholic church contribute to humanity?

na puros kabuysitan ang ilang ihatag sa society!

at least kanang akong mga friends nga atheists naa silay gicontribute sa ilang isig katawo.

nya kanang mga pari, naa ba kaha na silay gicontribute? kadato anang vatican di man lang nila tabangan ang ilang mga pobre nga members!

mao na diha run!

and by the way, i'm agnostic atheist, and if you are to ask me what i can do for humanity, is for them to be free from the hypocrisy from religion, bisan sa ginagmay nga paagi. because religion is a big BS

What great contribution have you done so far to the society? I can still remember what you said from one of your thread something like as long as you're paying the taxes then it's the government's problem in making improvements of the country? Who do you think is the hypocrite?

[yiennahs]

every time the title of this thread comes up on the 1st page of the forum, it really makes me wonder kay i never knew there are a lot of atheist in here. Sometimes i am really curious to know why you chose this principle or how your mind thinks, what paths are you going to take and any other interesting facts. However, i always end up being disappointed cause all i see theist arguing with you guys. It's like, "ah okay... kagubot ba diri oi".

Anyway, i respect your path. I guess i am not speaking up for anybody but just for myself cause what i really understand (pardon the immaturity) is that there is really no use in arguing at all. I mean, how could someone make another one believe the existence of something that they cannot see and how could someone question another one's fixed belief?

I think a principle is too great for someone to knock over with just words.

What i understand is that theist have this notion that religion exist due to the fact that it was the one who contributed morality while atheism with the notion that life is based on the truth, and the truth is based on science which are facts.

Para naku, i can really see a problem in here. Science is really big that even humanity cannot comprehend it. What we do is pass on the knowledge so the next will continue the study. There are indeed unending questions needed to be answered. If you discovered something, you don't stop there, you have to see it's compositions, it's use, where it came from, how, and why and another list of questions. There is really no problem with that. Now here is another set of people, this people needs answers. They need to know and since science can't answer this and that then they would go for someone higher. We don't know everything so there must really be something, someone that knows everything.

So we track history, we track data, we track everything if it's true. Now, in every kind of thing we track down, we question it and we assume. And then we begin to argue every detail of it.By and by, we consume our time finding evidence to prove the other is wrong. I also don't see anything wrong with it... but.... here is my point as a theist...

religion does not really focus on what's ahead, it concentrates on what's know.
We don't base our life on the past, we base it on how we manage our life everyday following a set of rules and guidelines.

While science focus on how a person can contribute to the society by facts and technology, religion emphasizes on how one can change another to a better life.

I don't know if you can see this... but what i can see is that there is really no need to argue about it, they are complementing each other.

It's useless to argue.
It' useless to ask for something that cannot be answered today.
Our brains are limited, our logic is limited, and so our capabilities.

Why not work hand in hand. If we just respect each other, we will be able to enhance ourselves and maybe just maybe we will discover wonders.

[treize]

Wasn't there a wallpaper here showing a collage of scientists with a caption " Atheism. Good enough for these idiots"?

The world's greatest minds are atheists. I don't see why you didn't remember that.

If you want to know their contributions bro, look up their profiles.

I've seen that picture in one of the threads here and I don't think they're all atheist since one of them was Einstein and he ain't an atheist but an agnostic. He's even irritated by the atheists..

Atheists Irk Einstein
In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human understanding, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.

— Prince Hubertus zu Löwenstein, Towards the Further Shore (Victor Gollancz, London, 196, p. 156; quoted in Jammer, p. 97
I was barked at by numerous dogs who are earning their food guarding ignorance and superstition for the benefit of those who profit from it. Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is of the same kind as the intolerance of the religious fanatics and comes from the same source. They are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who—in their grudge against the traditional "opium of the people"—cannot bear the music of the spheres. The Wonder of nature does not become smaller because one cannot measure it by the standards of human moral and human aims.

— Einstein to an unidentified adressee, Aug.7, 1941. Einstein Archive, reel 54-927, quoted in Jammer, p. 97

Atheists Miss the Wonder of the World
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You find it strange that I consider the comprehensibility of the world (to the extent that we are authorized to speak of such a comprehensibility) as a miracle or an eternal mystery. Well a priori one should expect a chaotic world which cannot be grasped by the mind in anyway. One could (yes one should) expect the world to be subjected to law only to the extent that we order it through our intelligence. Ordering of this kind would be like the alphabetical ordering of the words of a language. By contrast, the kind of order created by Newton's theory of gravitation, for instance, is wholly different. Even if the axioms of the theory are proposed by man, the success of such a project presupposes a high degree of ordering of the objective world, and this could not be expected a priori. That is the "miracle" which is being constantly re-enforced as our knowledge expands.

There lies the weaknesss of positivists and professional atheists who are elated because they feel that they have not only successfully rid the world of gods but "bared the miracles." (That is, explained the miracles. - ed.) Oddly enough, we must be satisfied to acknowledge the "miracle" without there being any legitimate way for us to approach it . I am forced to add that just to keep you from thinking that --weakened by age--I have fallen prey to the clergy …

— From a letter to Maurice Solovine; see Goldman, p. 24

Einstein Not a "Freethinker"
The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even naive. However, I am also not a "Freethinker" in the usual sense of the word because I find that this is in the main an attitude nourished exclusively by an opposition against naive superstition. My feeling is insofar religious as I am imbued with the consciousness of the insuffiency of the human mind to understand deeply the harmony of the Universe which we try to formulate as "laws of nature." It is this consciousness and humility I miss in the Freethinker mentality. Sincerely yours, Albert Einstein.

—Letter to A. Chapple, Australia, February 23, 1954; Einstein Archive 59-405; also quoted in Nathan and Norden, Einstein on Peace P. 510