Questions for the Atheists

[pinoy_09]

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Unsa lagi imong proof nga tinuod ning imong giingon nga: Whatever TRUTH is, the only way to recognize it is through LOGIC. ?

Imoha man ng claim, so ang burden of proof imoha pud. It is your obligation to provide sufficient warrant for that claim. Dili kay magtuyok2x lang imong tubag. Kun dili nimo ma-establish nga tinuod ng maong claim without begging the question, nagpasabot lang na mga walay basehanan kanang maong claim. Mugna lang na sa buta nga pagtoo.

Kun mo-claim bitaw ang mga theists nga duna'y Ginoo, mangita man ka'g proof kun tinuod ba nang maong claim. Mao ra gihapon ng kasuha sa inyong position. Inyo mang gi-claim nga Whatever TRUTH is, the only way to recognize it is through LOGIC. Hain man ang proof ana? Inyo ra lugar ng gi-assumed nga tinuod bisan wala moy proof?

Haha kapuya aning storyaha uy. Unsa man diay nga klase sa PROOF imong gipangita? Logic is all we've got, sir. What other ways you have? You can't even provide me one. Anyway, this is getting old already. Wa gani nimo tubaga akong point sa taas oh. Likay-likay man ka. Murag ikaw man ang nag tuyok-tuyok sir.

[pinoy_09]

I don't even know why I'm the one who's on the defense here, when dili man ako ang ni claim "God is real". It's kind of ridiculous. You guys are the ones saying "God is real". If so, you should be the one to defend this claim. Not us.

Anyway, have a good night, sir.

[yanong_banikanhon]

Unsa man diay nga klase sa PROOF imong gipangita? Logic is all we've got, sir.

Aw, kanang katarungana, sama ra na sa theist nga moingon: Unsa man diay nga klase sa PROOF imong gipangita? GOD is all we've got, sir. Kun inyo nang madunggan gikan sa usa ka theist, motingkag ra ba diretso inyong dalunggan.

I don't even know why I'm the one who's on the defense here, when dili man ako ang ni claim "God is real". It's kind of ridiculous. You guys are the ones saying "God is real". If so, you should be the one to defend this claim. Not us. Anyway, have a good night, sir.

Bro, tan-awa gani ang title ani nga thread: Questions for the Atheists. Mas kataw-anan paminawon kung imong ipamugos nga dili mo angay motubag sa mga pangutana kay kamo baya ang subject aning maong thread. Unsa ra man diay inyong nahibal-an, ang pagsupak2x ra? Inyong kaugalingong belief dili ninyo kayang i-prove? Tsk.tsk.tsk.

Now is your chance to provide proof for your belief. Dili kay moingon lang mo: logic is true because logic is true. Kay absurd kaayo na nga katarungana.

[pinoy_09]

Aw, kanang katarungana, sama ra na sa theist nga moingon: Unsa man diay nga klase sa PROOF imong gipangita? GOD is all we've got, sir. Kun inyo nang madunggan gikan sa usa ka theist, motingkag ra ba diretso inyong dalunggan.



Bro, tan-awa gani ang title ani nga thread: Questions for the Atheists. Mas kataw-anan paminawon kung imong ipamugos nga dili mo angay motubag sa mga pangutana kay kamo baya ang subject aning maong thread. Unsa ra man diay inyong nahibal-an, ang pagsupak2x ra? Inyong kaugalingong belief dili ninyo kayang i-prove? Tsk.tsk.tsk.

Now is your chance to provide proof for your belief. Dili kay moingon lang mo: logic is true because logic is true. Kay absurd kaayo na nga katarungana.

Simple ra gyud kaayo na, sir. For us, reason and logic is the only way. Kamo, God is the only way. If I were to choose between reason/logic and God, I'd go for the former; that makes me an agnostic atheist. So difference of beliefs, eh? Kung para nimo absurd, that's your opinion. Let's just agree to disagree, shall we? Looks like we're at a dead end here.

[pinoy_09]

In summary, ani rani siya o.

Atheist: Logic and reason is the only way to find the truth.
Theist: God is the only way to find the truth.

Let's have our readers choose for themselves, which one is the more rational. Ana lang, sir.

[yanong_banikanhon]

In summary, ani rani siya o.

Atheist: Logic and reason is the only way to find the truth.
Theist: God is the only way to find the truth.

Let's have our readers choose for themselves, which one is the more rational. Ana lang, sir.

Ako lang i-correct kanang position namong mga theist bay, ha. Kay aron klaro. Ani ni siya:

Atheist: Logic and reason is the only way to find the truth.
Theist : Without GOD, it is impossible to prove anything.

Ang mga readers na lang ang mo-decide asa sila anang duha.

Let's just agree to disagree, shall we? Looks like we're at a dead end here.

Way problema, bay. As long as dili mo magbugal2x sa among pagtoo ug among Ginoo, respetuhon pud namo inyong pagtoo. Peace, brother.

[vern]

I have so much to say, but alas, I come to this discussion late and would only repeat many things.

[pinoy_09]

Ako lang i-correct kanang position namong mga theist bay, ha. Kay aron klaro. Ani ni siya:

Atheist: Logic and reason is the only way to find the truth.
Theist : Without GOD, it is impossible to prove anything.

Ang mga readers na lang ang mo-decide asa sila anang duha.

Way blema na, technically it's the same thing in that ang inyong source is God. Kato ako question sa ibabaw nga wala nimo matubag (howcome God is the source), I'll leave that open to other theists in this thread as well.

Allow me to reiterate that question kay interesado pud ko sa tubag sa ubang theists diri (yes, I'm looking at you nowpress* and treize). Hopefully they can shed light on that matter. Mao ni ang question:

"Isn't it an assumption that just because LOGIC is not bound by the material world, that a "supernatural" is authoring them? If so, how can you prove that this is true?"

Nia pa gyud diay:

What do theists use besides logic and reason to examine the truth?

[Soul Doctor]

Way blema na, technically it's the same thing in that ang inyong source is God. Kato ako question sa ibabaw nga wala nimo matubag (howcome God is the source), I'll leave that open to other theists in this thread as well.

Allow me to reiterate that question kay interesado pud ko sa tubag sa ubang theists diri (yes, I'm looking at you nowpress* and treize). Hopefully they can shed light on that matter. Mao ni ang question:

"Isn't it an assumption that just because LOGIC is not bound by the material world, that a "supernatural" is authoring them? If so, how can you prove that this is true?"

LOGIC or REASONING is a limited human ability.
We humans are mostly arrogant.
We pretend to know everything about the world and the universe.
We used science as a tool to examine the world.
We use logic to justify a theory.

But logic and science are limited human tools when it comes to knowing about God.
For human's limited ability will never be enough to fathom everything in this universe including God.
So stay arrogant and pretend you will be able to prove that God doesn't exist.
Using your limited tool called logic and science.
Logic and science is limited to the understanding of the ones who possess them.

As I have said before, humans are not in the position to detect the presence and existence of a God.
Humans are not the highest level beings in this universe.

But it doesn't take a genius to know that there is a God.
Order will tell you that there is a God.
Without a God, then everything in this universe will be in total chaos.

[pinoy_09]

LOGIC or REASONING is a limited human ability.
We humans are mostly arrogant.
We pretend to know everything about the world and the universe.
We used science as a tool to examine the world.
We use logic to justify a theory.

But logic and science are limited human tools when it comes to knowing about God.
For human's limited ability will never be enough to fathom everything in this universe including God.
So stay arrogant and pretend you will be able to prove that God doesn't exist.
Using your limited tool called logic and science.
Logic and science is limited to the understanding of the ones who possess them.

As I have said before, humans are not in the position to detect the presence and existence of a God.
Humans are not the highest level beings in this universe.

But it doesn't take a genius to know that there is a God.
Order will tell you that there is a God.
Without a God, then everything in this universe will be in total chaos.

So what do theists use besides logic and reason to examine the truth [about God]?