Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

[redhorse1L]

The church does not fall in those categories bai. If nasulod na sa bangko ang ilang kwarta, obviously mao nana ang surplus, which by law, is taxable. How can you overlook that obvious thing? If naabot nana ang kwarta sa bangko meaning sobra nana! Kai if kulang di na maabot sa bangko. Gigasto na sa dapat asa gastosan.

Walay concrete na evidence? Mao pa gani pagsulti sa uban that some priests and churches live lavishly!

And fyi bai, dili pautang ang bangko sa simbahan, simply because they have no collateral to give. non profit baya! kita pautangan ta kai naa ta proof of INCOME because we generate income. Churches don't generate INCOME. See the difference? Ngano gud intawn pa utang ta anang organisasyon na walay balak mo bayad?

Last time I checked the church built their projects based on donations. Karon pako kadungog anang mangutang sa bangko. wala man gani mo insure ug simbahan! Or have you forgotten? Mao bitaw if masunogan mangayo napud ug DONATION.

Dili nalang ibutang sa bangko ang nadawat nga donations?
Dapat wala nalang bank account ang simbahan?

You seemed to have forgotten what you have said.
Ingon ka sauna it's ok to save for future use.
Karon, ingon nasad ka dapat zero, kay gamiton na dayon.
Balik nasad ta aneh sa money management.

Ayaw nalang na hisguti ang utang2x. What I'm emphasizing is that, dili pwede pug-on nimo ang savings kay naa pay nahibilin. Then unya ra mangayo kung nahurot na.

Walay concrete na evidence? Mao pa gani pagsulti sa uban that some priests and churches live lavishly!

Mao lage neh, chismis ray ato-a aneh..
What I'm asking is a concrete evidence nga daghan kaayo ug surplus ang simbahan then gi-waldas ra ang kwarta.

[necrotic freak]

Poor suggestion. This is more effective than putting it in a church. It's going viral!

ang catholic church man kaha ang traget ani? dili ang istorya.net.. so usik lang imong bala kung wala ma igo sa saktong target..

[dmcebu01]

Kong pobre mamatay kong walay 1,500 pesos.........pikatan kas PARE, walay mo mesa. Ipalubong nalang di ni tinood?

[tokidoki]

Dili nalang ibutang sa bangko ang nadawat nga donations?
Dapat wala nalang bank account ang simbahan?

You seemed to have forgotten what you have said.
Ingon ka sauna it's ok to save for future use.
Karon, ingon nasad ka dapat zero, kay gamiton na dayon.
Balik nasad ta aneh sa money management.

Ayaw nalang na hisguti ang utang2x. What I'm emphasizing is that, dili pwede pug-on nimo ang savings kay naa pay nahibilin. Then unya ra mangayo kung nahurot na.

My god, have you fallen so far from the start of this discussion? If you put money in a bank it becomes taxable. Mao gani nag "simbahan" na sila kai they enjoy the tax exemption.

Nya you are saying gisulod na sa bank? A real church stuffs that in a safe bai, where it will NOT earn TAXABLE INTEREST and WILL NOT be part of a bank's books where again, it becomes taxable. To put that in a bank defeats the purpose of the tax cut.

Kung gisulod na sa bangko makataas nana sa kilay kai ang balak diay patubuon ang kwarta (income) from a non-income organization.

Mao lage neh, chismis ray ato-a aneh..
What I'm asking is a concrete evidence nga daghan kaayo ug surplus ang simbahan then gi-waldas ra ang kwarta.

Lol. bukbuka kuno na ang fortuner or ang civc sa pari bai. Kai basin "chismis" ra na nya modisappear in thin air? Or better yet, paligis sa sakyanan kai murag wala pa ka na convinced. Basin nagtuo ka illusion ra na ang sakyanan ug simbahan imo gisudlan?

Gitagaan naka concrete evidence nangayo paka.

Mura ba'g give me a bird. Gitagaan ka ug bird sa imo atubangan and you're still screaming to get a bird because you're not convinced that what is standing in front of you is a bird. (kai di lagi ganahan motuo sa tinuod) Kinda makes me wonder if the taong grasa was right.

Or better yet here's a quote that will suit the bird: "Never explain yourself, the people who like you don't need it and the people who don't won't believe it."

[tokidoki]

ang catholic church man kaha ang traget ani? dili ang istorya.net.. so usik lang imong bala kung wala ma igo sa saktong target..

huna huna ra na nimo pre. iutot ra na.

[redhorse1L]

Never? LOL Pagsure diha oi. That wasn't even a requote. You were being sarcastic, which is obviously your desperate ploy to lambast my statements. I, of course, see the hypocrisy. Ayaw lagi criticize ug laing tao if utro pud diay ka guilty!

Dugaya kasabot oi.

And your last comment has no connection. If natamaan imo pride or imo simbahan you can relieve yourself by conquering cities and massacring millions and LOOTING money, at least that's one thing your church is good at.

Next time don't play the sarcasm game. You're too lame at it because your ideas get muddled in contradictions.

hahaha! sarcasm game? look who's talking?

Let me just repost your comments (copy / paste neh huh?)

To be blunt bai. YES these so-called "bright" people you say are actually THAT STUPID.

Ako bai, I'm being smartER by being dumb. Dumb to their beliefs. And because of that wala nako NAILAD sa simbahan.

You must remember bai that a genius is borderline between NORMAL & Crazy. Those people you mentioned? They are in that border. Gamay tikang ana naa nana sa CRAZY section.

I pride myself in being normal even though I do not possess their genius level intellect.

Look up the parable between the 3 wise men and the realist guy parable.
Summary: 3 wise men tried to raise a dead lion from the dead. The realist guy hid in the tree. Guess who got eaten?

Intelligence CAN make you stupid.

Repost sad kuno akong gisulti beh?

[tokidoki]

I see.. How stupid of me.
I just realized I'm talking to a proud realist guy who thinks that people not inline with his beliefs are NOT normal.

Nya? Unsa man di gihapon ka tuo na ikaw nagsulti ana or nagpablind2x lang ka kai di ka ganahan modawat na SAYOP ka?

Nya asa man imo so called re-quote ana? LOL. because you think you got me but you didn't. Try harder.

Ok ra ko magsarcastic bai. At least magets. Ang imo kai ikaw ra kasabot.

So here's a tip: Don't do it.

again, i repeat, do not make sarcastic comments like that if you and your church is guilty of the same.

[koontz_circle]

diin man cla pag bagyong ondoy sa manila unsa man ilahang role did2 unsa man pud ilahang natabang?

as far as I know, affected sad ang Church sa calamity. nitabang sila pero ang media tua nakatutok sa mga politiko.

ug mamatay ang pobre naa bay libre na pa lubong or free mass?

ug naay masakiton pwde ba mo ask ug tabang sa simbahan?

wise ang Church, dili ko mag expect sa Church nga motuo dayon sa mga modus modus..

[redhorse1L]

My god, have you fallen so far from the start of this discussion? If you put money in a bank it becomes taxable. Mao gani nag "simbahan" na sila kai they enjoy the tax exemption.

Nya you are saying gisulod na sa bank? A real church stuffs that in a safe bai, where it will NOT earn TAXABLE INTEREST and WILL NOT be part of a bank's books where again, it becomes taxable. To put that in a bank defeats the purpose of the tax cut.

Kung gisulod na sa bangko makataas nana sa kilay kai ang balak diay patubuon ang kwarta (income) from a non-income organization.

Hello, unsa na nga year karon?
Kataw-anan pud nimo bro oi.. Dili nalang isulod sa bangko ang kwarta para dili mo-earn ug interest? Mag-pundo nalang didto ang sinsiyo sa kaban? Kung ipadala sa Manila ang uban nga portion sa donation, i-agi nalang ug post office? or LBC ang tag-piso / singko?

If ihatag sa charity works, ukab nasad ang kaban, ihap balig 100k nga tag-piso, tag-singko.. ?

Lol. bukbuka kuno na ang fortuner or ang civc sa pari bai. Kai basin "chismis" ra na nya modisappear in thin air? Or better yet, paligis sa sakyanan kai murag wala pa ka na convinced. Basin nagtuo ka illusion ra na ang sakyanan ug simbahan imo gisudlan?

Gitagaan naka concrete evidence nangayo paka.

Mura ba'g give me a bird. Gitagaan ka ug bird sa imo atubangan and you're still screaming to get a bird because you're not convinced that what is standing in front of you is a bird. (kai di lagi ganahan motuo sa tinuod) Kinda makes me wonder if the taong grasa was right.

Or better yet here's a quote that will suit the bird: "Never explain yourself, the people who like you don't need it and the people who don't won't believe it."

Still, chismis ra lagi.
Wala jud ka evidence nga kwarta na sa simbahan.

Nangayo ko ug bird, ingon ka nga naay nisulti diri nga nakakita sila ug bird.. Mao na to imong concrete evidence??.. wahahahaha!!

[tokidoki]

Nangayo ko ug bird, ingon ka nga naay nisulti diri nga nakakita sila ug bird.. Mao na to imong concrete evidence??.. wahahahaha!!

I think it's you who need re-reading of this thread bro.

But anyway, thank you for proving me right. You are free to disbelieve if you like. Maybe kinahanglan gyud ka ligsan gyud.