MERGED: CHINA: Next Superpower?

[likyam]

bitaw noh, makakulba sad baya nang "silent advancements" sa China.

i don't know if it really is an accident or tinuyuan dyud. example nako is ang SARS outbreak. ikaduha katong milk contamination. it might happened on their country pero mura sad bitaw na makahunahuna ta na wa ba kaha na gi experimentohan nila ba na ipaagi ron sa mga products ang ilang war nya gi cripple nila slowly through that ang mga tawo.

call this a new generation war ug dili na katong pina brutal diretso but rather slow death kunuhay. my imagination or real threat. still, makahunahuna gihapon ta sa ato well-being. pero in Santo Nino we trust. di ta pasagdan niya.

[yowenn]

Washington D.C. (Philippine Daily Inquirer/ANN) - Amid increasing concern over renewed tensions in the South China Sea, the Philippine Embassy here is shopping for excess defence equipment from the United States under Washington¿s Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme.

Jose L. Cuisia Jr., the Philippine ambassador to the US, said he has asked the national defence department and armed forces back home to provide him with a wish list of military equipment they will need to shore up the country¿s defence capability.

He said he expected the defence department to ¿prioritise¿ its modernisation goals, but was careful not to explicitly link the purchase of US excess defence articles to the Philippine military¿s job of securing the territorial sovereignty of the country in the face of China¿s alleged intrusions into the areas of the disputed Spratlys group claimed by the Philippines.

¿There are defence articles that will be available, and that¿s why I¿m asking the Navy, Air Force and Army what their needs are," said Cuisia who made this disclosure during a visit at the embassy here last week of former President Fidel Ramos.

It is part of Cuisia¿s job to negotiate with US officials contracts for the purchase of US military hardware. The FMS programme is a standardised method for the sale by the US of defence equipment, services and training to foreign countries and governments.

Cuisia said the negotiations with the US are only after the defence department, in consultation with the military, has determined ¿what the country needs¿.

He said he has already seen the list provided by the Navy, but the other service commands¿the Army and Air Force¿have yet to come up with their own wish lists.

Hamilton class cutter

On May 13, Cuisia marked his debut as the new ambassador to Washington by signing the certificate of transfer of the decommissioned US Coast Guard Hamilton class cutter to the Philippines. (The cutters are called ¿Hamilton class¿ after their lead ship, the Hamilton, named after Alexander Hamilton, the first US Secretary of the Treasury.)

While in the US Coast Guard service, the vessel saw action in maritime safety and security missions, including drug and migrant interdiction, and search and rescue.

The patrol vessel, whose two 1,800 horsepower gas turbines can propel it to speeds of up to 28 knots, will be renamed the BRP Gregorio del Pilar. It is the biggest ship ever to be acquired by the Philippine Navy, and will be sailed to Manila next month.

Philippine military officials have high hopes of acquiring a few other relatively modern patrol ships as the US will retire eight more Coast Guard cutters over the next five years.

Cuisia, however, seemed lukewarm to purchasing a decommissioned US warship because of the high price tag, even if it¿s being sold at a ¿very big discounted price¿.

¿Is that what we really need? Do we need another one, or do we need something else?" he said.

¿Do we need a frigate? Maybe that¿s not what we need. Maybe what we need are fast patrol boats to go after pirates, after Abu Sayyaf, etc.," he said.

Caution vs arms buildup

Ramos warned Philippine defence officials against promoting an arms buildup in the Spratlys group, a reputedly oil-rich chain of islands and reefs, which is claimed wholly or in part by the Philippines, China, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam and Taiwan.

¿There¿s a buildup on many sides¿even us. This is a little tiny buildup, which is the (purchase of a) Coast Guard cutter. Why don¿t we use all this money that¿s being budgeted for an arms buildup for peace, development and prosperity?" he said.

Escalating tensions in the Spratlys, which straddle busy international shipping lanes, is a relic of the Cold War, said the retired general who met with Cuisia and the Filipino community here during a 12-day swing of the US in May.

Ramos urged Philippine President Benigno Aquino III to accept an invitation from Chinese President Hu Jintao to visit Beijing. He said this would help ease the tension over China¿s recent alleged intrusions.

As early as March, Aquino has been invited by China to make an official visit, but Malacañang has yet to set a date.

Joint patrol of rivals

Ramos envisions a ¿common defence¿ of the South China Sea instead of rival claimants locked in a perpetual war mode, pointing their arsenals against each other.

His proposed setup is akin to a joint patrol of contested waters in which all claimant countries would contribute forces to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea.

¿What do we do with these existing armies? Why don¿t we in Asia Pacific agree to treat each other like partners in peace and prosperity instead of us potential rivals 10 years from now?" he said.

Ramos noted the marked changes in the global security environment after the fall of the Iron Curtain in 1989, which precipitated the disintegration of the Soviet Union and with it, the threat of international communism.

In both the Korean War and Viet Nam War, the US had pursued a policy of containment, triggering the mushrooming of US military bases in Asia and around the world as the free world¿s response to the advance of communism, he said.

The Philippines sided with the US in both wars, nurturing a political, economic and military relationship in post-World War II which did not always sit well with communist China.

But with China embracing capitalism, its economy is set to eclipse the US in 2016, as the International Monetary Fund recently predicted.

The real enemy

According to Ramos, the real enemy in the 21st century is no longer one country against the other.

¿That¿s outmoded. That¿s a Cold War mentality," he said.

¿The force which is being applied one against the other and then continues to escalate should not just be identified with the No 1 and No 2 superpowers (the US and China) because who is the enemy? What is the enemy now? It¿s international terrorism. It¿s endemic disease. It¿s climate change. It is poverty," Ramos said.

¿Can you imagine how much better the quality of life all around the world, especially in the Philippines and in China and in many parts of the world, would be if the huge amount of dollars, of yuan and pesos will be devoted to economic and social development?" he said.

The Ramos Peace and Development Foundation is working toward this goal of regional stability and prosperity, he said.

Philippines shops for US military gear - Yahoo! News

[ed168III]

we are already in war bro/sis, im taking part of it. if naa koy ka omegle na insik, naa mana sla kay nahan makat.on ug ininglis, i ask dem if i can hav dr facebook, ingon sla g block sa govt n dey dont no d reason, i tel dem to prevent d youth from uniting taking part in building their govt, same reason ngano wala slay youtube, after dey realize ana diay, dey keep on talking so much n even get excited.

im making dem aware of the democracy which dr govt wil do anything just to curb it

pa hassle lng gamay ba

[Eve's Apple Project]

we are already in war bro/sis, im taking part of it. if naa koy ka omegle na insik, naa mana sla kay nahan makat.on ug ininglis, i ask dem if i can hav dr facebook, ingon sla g block sa govt n dey dont no d reason, i tel dem to prevent d youth from uniting taking part in building their govt, same reason ngano wala slay youtube, after dey realize ana diay, dey keep on talking so much n even get excited.

im making dem aware of the democracy which dr govt wil do anything just to curb it

pa hassle lng gamay ba

para nako bai. China is doing a great job in controlling/blocking those sites bai.. tan-awa ang Middle East bai, grabe kasamok. i don't oppose their ban on those sites (bisan diri ko china nagpuyo). Lisod kaayo ang pag maintain og nasud bai. Tan-awa ang pinas nga "democratic" kuno.. we are 3rd sa pinakataas og unsolved media killings sa tibook kalibutan (# 1 ang Iraq, 2nd ang Somalia - source i got from CNN). their youth here is no different from us. Ang ato bitaw, united diay ta? china is growing really fast, & their Gov't is doing their best to serve their people. kita? asa naman ta? democracy is not working in our favor bai. diri bai, death penalty is imposed. remember the "Milk" scam, bitay ang silot sa nasakpan ato bai. sa ato, nga democracy? nidagan pa gani pagka presidente ang nasakpan nga nangurakot.. Mao nang nahimo tang kataw-anan sa ato mga silingan nga nasod, kay proud kaayo ta nga democratic kuno ta, pero mga datu ray nabulahan bai..

[Eve's Apple Project]

does it mean that if you are living in china you know whats going on in their leaders mind?
Communism and rebels for communism--is just a way to distract and disrupt security of a nation thus keeping them from progress. Art of War lagi. Basaha osa ninyong art of war oi.

living here does not tell me all of the story. parehas ra sa pinas bai. gipanganak lagi ta diha, but kabalo ba ta unsa jud tinood nahitabo? we are also blinded by all the media propaganda. list all the communist countries in the world bai, then tell me if they cooperate with each other or tell each other what to do?!
& if you are telling me that NPA is backed by the Chinese, are you a member of the NPA to know about it? whew..that is pure consiracy bai. if you want to really know where their fundings is coming from bai..you have to be seating on a high chair to see it. it could be coming from the politicians bai (might even be from AFP themselves, but hey, don't want to start a consirary theory here). reading the art of war does not tell me to target the phillipines or any democratic country. does it? We are not progessing because of corruption in our Gov't (& AFP). Drugs? so we blame it to them? wow, that is a weird way of thinking bai (sorry). Drugs is thriving sa pinas kay tungod sa politicians. take Davao for instance, taas ba ang drug addiction sa davao (if naa man gani)? the anwer is no, because of Duterte (or their Government). there you have it bai. It is more on political will, & good Governance. Don't blame it on another country. To think bai mas doul ta sa Malaysia (IMO they are the bullies in south east asia not china).

[likyam]

We are not progessing because of corruption in our Gov't (& AFP). Drugs? so we blame it to them? wow, that is a weird way of thinking bai (sorry). Drugs is thriving sa pinas kay tungod sa politicians. take Davao for instance, taas ba ang drug addiction sa davao (if naa man gani)? the anwer is no, because of Duterte (or their Government)

pero you have to admit sad baya noh, i dunno lang if you have seen recent news of raids on homes na innocent kaayo pero pag raid kai shabu diay. and most culprits are either taiwanese and chinese. ergo, chinese race ang mostly nag operate sa paghimo sa shabu. sa pag kaylap tingai pinoy kai easy money gud, but the paraphernalias and products in making the shabu is from chinese. no evidence though from me, pero sa nakita nako na raid sa news it's more han enough to say na most operators here are banyaga.

[monroy]

pero you have to admit sad baya noh, i dunno lang if you have seen recent news of raids on homes na innocent kaayo pero pag raid kai shabu diay. and most culprits are either taiwanese and chinese. ergo, chinese race ang mostly nag operate sa paghimo sa shabu. sa pag kaylap tingai pinoy kai easy money gud, but the paraphernalias and products in making the shabu is from chinese. no evidence though from me, pero sa nakita nako na raid sa news it's more han enough to say na most operators here are banyaga.

are you sure bro? think about it sa and look at the whole picture, there are more culprits in the drug trade you have missed. what about the enablers in the military, police, the courts and PDEA.. 99% of these are pinoy and they are the ones who make the business of the drug lords possible. they are no less guilty than the drug lords and in my opinion more guilty because they are supposed to serve the public but instead are engaged in criminal activity.

it's so easy to blame everything on Chinese we are convenient scapegoats for all the racist out there but almost all of the problems in this country from the incapability of our military to corruption and our failure democracy are whose fault? the Chinese? come on...

[Eve's Apple Project]

pero you have to admit sad baya noh, i dunno lang if you have seen recent news of raids on homes na innocent kaayo pero pag raid kai shabu diay. and most culprits are either taiwanese and chinese. ergo, chinese race ang mostly nag operate sa paghimo sa shabu. sa pag kaylap tingai pinoy kai easy money gud, but the paraphernalias and products in making the shabu is from chinese. no evidence though from me, pero sa nakita nako na raid sa news it's more han enough to say na most operators here are banyaga.

OT: sakto bai..could be bai nga from china ang chemicals (no Doubt about it). but ato sad hunahuna-on, giunsa man pagsulod ana sa ato Ports? Customs palang daan bai macheck nana. then our Local Govt (or perhaps NBI?).. how can those things operate on their watch? lisod hunahuna-on nga wala sila kabalo. mao btaw nga naapil si fmr mayor Ouano sa controbersia sauna kay impossible kaayo. Narco politics is alive & strong sa pinas bai. we can always stop it if we have a strong govt. so i would not blame it on JUST the foreign businessmen alone, it is more on our "Corrupt" Officials fault bai (PNP, LGU, Customs- but dili tanan nila, i hope..hehe).

[noy.juan]

You still are not hearing what Im saying here.

The moment China declares war with Philippines, (and U.S.) is when they are sure that the enemy already lost.

Why do you think they are testing nuclear warhead on the ocean.

But few people understood the type of war they are going to use when they decided to declare war.
It is not good old guns and bullets.

Biological warfare.
U.S have done it.
Other countries have done it.
But since the SARS, I really suspected China of developing secretly a biological weapon.
A virus is far less expensive. It is deniable. Its deadly effective to wipe out a population.

Ask yourself again.
Why is the SARS incident not investigated fully.
Where did it really came from?
But virus like SARS can be genetically manipulated to produce another form of deadlier virus.

Chemical and Biological Weapons - China Special Weapons

conspiracy theories is a result of total mind B$.... most conspiracy theorist are no different from people saying they are the messiah.... until you have solid proof about you theory, stop posting about conspiracy theory B$.... coz you are not helping the thread you are ruining the flow of good information with your BS theories.... please do your self a favor... READ MORE POST LESS

[|ceman]

we are already in war bro/sis, im taking part of it. if naa koy ka omegle na insik, naa mana sla kay nahan makat.on ug ininglis, i ask dem if i can hav dr facebook, ingon sla g block sa govt n dey dont no d reason, i tel dem to prevent d youth from uniting taking part in building their govt, same reason ngano wala slay youtube, after dey realize ana diay, dey keep on talking so much n even get excited.

im making dem aware of the democracy which dr govt wil do anything just to curb it

pa hassle lng gamay ba

sige bro, ingna jud sila, aron ma pareha sila sa pinas in no time, damay2x nato