Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

[nealotol]

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hinoon naa man kaha moy na dunggan nga ang mga taga simbahan or other religion nga ni donate sa mga biktima sa sunog? or ni hatag ug financial assistance sa mga biktima sa calamity?

[koontz_circle]

It doesn't matter if the Church is a "wise investor" or "financially capable," the point is that they are KEEPING MONEY FOR THEMSELVES! Yes, save up, invest, profit even! But why not use such profit and the returns of your investment for the good of your flock? Nganong puros man na mga airconditioned mansions ug luxury SUVs ang paliton?

Mo matter jud if you’re wise when handling certain amount of money. Ika nga money will either put you up or down, dependi unsaon nimu pag handle. rich people goes down if they overspend, ordinary people get rich if they utterly preserve their resources.
Regarding your point nga they are keeping the money for themselves then it’s their right to do so as an organization. But if you meant nga ang Church leaders are keeping it to themselves for personal use that’s excessively rational.. paranoia. You’re thinking too much.

For your info, gamay ra ang luxury SUV’s ang gipanag iya sa simbahan. Tingalig nalimot ka bai nga kasgaran sa mga priests anak na silag mga kwartahan nga ginikanan the moment ni enter sila sa seminary. Try daw inquire sa Church if asa naka register ang vehicle and also try to inquire diin gikan ang money gi purchase ana.

And assuming nga naka register ang luxury SUV’s under the name of bishops, cardinals or the organization.. that doesn’t give you the right to lessen their privilege of comfortable transport.

If ingon anah kadak-a ila assets and investments, why arent we seeing large-scale charitable facilities. Nakabuild na unta sila ug perting dakoa ng mga orphanages ug shelters or even schools for the indigent!

Try to budget the 12billion if enough ba to cater your demands. Just wait nga mo 10times ilang capital.. who knows mag build silag hospitals.

Tsk tsk. Priests should be trained as teachers and helpers of the poor, not frickin stock brokers, financial consultants, and business tycoons!

Unfortunately, they are not trained to help the poor. It’s not their job. They have their own mission. They are here to encourage their people, pobre or datu, to uplift their spirits. They better focus on their crusade than trying to be a multitasker. Dili ni sila parehag taras sa mga politikos nga daghan departments gi handolan pero way agi.

[masterjanuarius]

hinoon naa man kaha moy na dunggan nga ang mga taga simbahan or other religion nga ni donate sa mga biktima sa sunog? or ni hatag ug financial assistance sa mga biktima sa calamity?

Daghan bro ug hinabang ang simbahan sa mga biktima sa kalamidad ... and she doesn't have to blow the trumpet to let people know the many help does. Ngari lugar namo, nasunogan ang mga eskwaters, during sa sunog, mga politiko ang miabot. 2nd day, mga councilors ug mga nag hunahuna pag lansar sa next elections .. pagka 3rd day, ang parish priest miadto, pero walay dala nga goodies, mi istorya ug mi tan-aw unsa ang kinahanglan sa mga nasunugan .. 4th day, miabot ang mga church volunteers kadala ug goods, utensils, plato ug mga tarpaulins and carpets para duna sila kapasilongan .. 5th day, miabot mga kahoy, plywood ug lansang para maka tukod sila ug pinuy-anan .. gikan sa ilang parokya bro .. hinabang sa mga tawo pinaagi sa simbahan .. ang sa mga politiko dugay ra nahurot .. kay picture taking lang ang ilang kinahanglan ug dili ang pagtabang ... pangutana: nganung kalimtan man nga ang simbahan nga dako nga realidad ug dili angayan mo judge sa partikolar nga negative experience ninyo? The whole cannot be judged by one part! Dunay maayong pari .. dunay di maayong pari .. pero ang Simbahang Katoliko in its fullness, essence and in its mission is always GOOD! Kay gimugna ni Kristo!

[thrallala81]

hahayz..... dili naman obligar mo hatag og 10% sa sweldo sa catholic church inig collection... g usab naman na ang style in jesus era... ang kad2 old testament kay LAW gyud to na 10% sa income kay goes to religion... mas dako pa hinuon og kwarta ang lain relihiyon.... i bet you.. pusta-anay pah...

[john_24]

Yes. its true that the church has billions but these are investments. These legal since they also need to profit kay dili man pwede i thank you and i-ampo ang bayad sa mga bills, wages for their workers. Wala man sad na kawata ang money nga gi-invest nila. Dili mana pangwarta ilang gibuhat its one way of managing their finances instead of waiting manna from heaven. Atleast wala man nangilad sila to gain their money. Can you also check pila ka orphans ug masakiton ang gibuhi sa simbahan with their billions? Wala man sab mo pugsa pila inyog ihatag every sunday if ever you still go to church.

[necrotic freak]

suya lang gyud ang TS ani kay wala pa jud siya kadaug ug billions from lotto.

di raba kuno siya manghatag kung makadaug siya. hehe

[mc888]

Yes. its true that the church has billions but these are investments. These legal since they also need to profit kay dili man pwede i thank you and i-ampo ang bayad sa mga bills, wages for their workers. Wala man sad na kawata ang money nga gi-invest nila. Dili mana pangwarta ilang gibuhat its one way of managing their finances instead of waiting manna from heaven. Atleast wala man nangilad sila to gain their money. Can you also check pila ka orphans ug masakiton ang gibuhi sa simbahan with their billions? Wala man sab mo pugsa pila inyog ihatag every sunday if ever you still go to church.

agree

[tokidoki]

assured jud nimo nga mangayo ug cut ang church? and you must assure also you'll put your lotto ticket ilawm sa santos aron ka makadaug. lolz

Ilawm sa santos? Still believe in the tooth fairy, i see. If collectahan nako ug piso pre sa mga pahoy na nag butang sa ilang lotto sa ilawm na santos i wouldn't need to win the lotto. madatu ra ko sa collection alone. which proves, how ineffective your faith is.

[tokidoki]

Is it part of a contract that, using your example, masunog imong balay, tukuran ka ug bag-ong balay sa simbahan? Una, dili fire insurance ang simbahan; ikaduha, when I give to the church, I never expect the church to give back to me .. that is not part of my logic, sorry. When your friend undergone medical procedure, and had to pay 1Mil for that .. did you give also to them? Why fault the church? When people come to me for help, for this or that reason, I never told them to go to the church or to the priest, bro .. I share what I can ..

dugo akong gibayad bro. if to you and your church kulang ra na kai dapat KWARTA gyud akong icontribute you can suck each other's balls for all i care. oh, wait, kulang gyud tuod. kai wala man sila nakuptan na KWARTA!

lolz. kontratahay na diay ta ani ron? in short, maayo ra mangayo ug tabang ang simbahan, pero kung kita daghan kuti (which is factually true). fair weathered friends. wow. that's another nail i am ramming into this religion's coffin!

Sorry, pre, but your reasoning or your logic doesn't add up hatag lang pero walay paki kung asa?

So it follows again, that as a christian i am (subtly) obligated to help the church but the church is not obligated to help me? SO if we follow your logic that we voluntarily contribute but the church has no obligation, WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY COLLECTING FOR? So if dili ni kontratahay bai, there is another term called for this PARASITISM.

Have you talked to a priest bai? Obviously you have not coz you would never hear a "so be it" sa pari bai. kung naai ma collecta dapat gyud NAA. Dili pwede "so be it". So speak for yourself lang. Sayon ra siguro na nimo nasulti coz you have a job and a living.

and I believe that "God who sees it in secret, will repay me in secret"!

In short, you absolutely have no idea what it is or what you're talking about.

They do not condemn people who do not contribute? Asa mana na simbahan imo bai? Or is that a church you created in your mind? Average people, you may not hear a word.

Millionaires bai you would hear priests lambast them in homilies for not being generous. Get your head out of the clouds bai, HERE on earth is the reality.

[tokidoki]

hinoon naa man kaha moy na dunggan nga ang mga taga simbahan or other religion nga ni donate sa mga biktima sa sunog? or ni hatag ug financial assistance sa mga biktima sa calamity?

Haha... i love this one:

"Dong, ato sa lain nalang nato ihatag ang kwarta. Just remember, there are more people who have suffered more than you. Jesus has suffered more than you."

Translation: You're getting our money when hell freezes over.