Evangelicals/Reforms/Baptists/Born Again

[redhorse1L]

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Rom. 3:28, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Rom. 4:5, "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness,"

Eph. 2:8-9, "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. 9Not by works, lest any man should boast."

Rom 3:28 - If you read verse 1, Paul talks about the Jewish Law of circumcision. People are boasting that they are ahead of the Gentiles since they obey the Law. That is why you should not brag when you've done good deeds. We are justified by faith. But what kind of faith? James tells us about a living faith.

Rom 4:5 If you read verse 9, it's about the works of the law. The same topic with Romans 3.

Eph 2:8-9 - The same thing, we are justified by faith. But it should be a living faith(faith and works) as James clearly states.


You keep on putting verses which I totally agree on.

But you haven't answered or given explanation to my question:
Why believe in FAITH ALONE when the Bible EXPLICITLY says NOT by FAITH ALONE?

[roddel]

ganyan po kasi mag patawad ang Panginoon saglit lang...if ones truly repent God forgives in an instant. yung truely repentance is involve po dito ang Spirito Santo

now eto kasi
Why believe in FAITH ALONE when the Bible EXPLICITLY says NOT by FAITH ALONE?

yung kay jame yung tinutukoy mo diba
24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. James 2:24

dalawa kasi ang issue dito
isang tunay na faith at hindi tunay

yung tunay na may pananampalataya nakikita sa gawa kasi hindi naman nakikita ng tao ang pananampalataya, nakikita mo ba?

yung di tunay na pananampalataya ay isang lip service confesion ng bunganga nya pero hindi sa puso
tulad ng sa demonyo

19 Ikaw ay sumasampalataya na ang Dios ay iisa; mabuti ang iyong ginagawa: ang mga demonio man ay nagsisisampalataya, at nagsisipanginig. James 2

[redhorse1L]

^^ Ok, If one have a deep repentance, accepted Christ as his personal savior, and is evident that he is renewed, and professes he is already saved..

But after a year, goes back to his old bad habits/lifestyle, Is he still saved?

[roddel]

prodigal son
hindi na ba sya tunay na anak ng AMA nya?

ikaw na tatay hindi mo na tunay na anak ang anak mo na nag prodigal son?

[redhorse1L]

^^ And what if the son never returned?

[roddel]

For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost." Luke 19:10

[redhorse1L]

For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost." Luke 19:10

Like I've said, what if he never returned?
Instead, he transferred to the Catholic Church ang became a priest?

[roddel]

ang tanong dyan na save ba talaga sya in the first place....

[roddel]

sabi kasi ni John
1 John 2:19
They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

Wala ka namang mababasa sa Bible na by Faith "ALONE" we will be saved.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

What works? The works of the Law.

Rom. 3:28, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Which Law? The Law of Moses

Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith

We cannot be justified by this the Law of Works which is Law of Moses.
Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the Law of Moses.

May mga Pareseo at mga Israelita na ipinagmamalaki yung mga WORKS or GAWA nila. (Mga nag-bibigay ng tights or 10% ng income nila. Mga nagpa-FASTING pagkatapos ipinagmamalaki sa iba.) Yan ang example ng mga WORKS na hindi mo ikaliligtas.


We are in the Christian Era and the Law of Moses will not justify us. Kaya nga po phased out na po ang 10 commandments =)

We have now, the LAWS of FAITH - which is the LAW of CHRIST. We will now be justified by the Laws of FAITH.

Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.


Having Faith in Christ, we will receive salvation but we have to work and we have to fulfill the The Law of faith which is Law of Christ:
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

WE HAVE TO WORK FOR OUR SALVATION!!!! So totoo ba na FAITH ALONE will save you? NO!

2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.