Evangelicals/Reforms/Baptists/Born Again

[malic_2]

listen, this is not a hate thread. Since I see a lot of fundamentalists around here recently, so im thinking why not make a thread for them, a thread that provides a space where we can examine their Theology and let's see if it is as they claim it to be as the only answer for questions that concerns with Religion and Spirituality.

let's start discussing this part...

Salvation is By FAITH ALONE.

after this let's move on to topics like Soli Scriptura, Covenants...etc...

if you think you have it...start hitting those keys...

[malic_2]

Salvation by FAITH ALONE or known as Sola Fide is...The doctrine of sola fide or "by faith alone" asserts God's pardon for guilty sinners is granted to and received through faith, conceived as excluding all "works", alone. All humanity, it is asserted, is fallen and sinful, under the curse of God, and incapable of saving itself from God's wrath and curse(wikipedia)

I say this is half true.

Faith alone can not save us,good works must be there too for Salvation to take effect.


*The mods can close this thread if they see it unfit for discussion.

[WordofGod]

listen, this is not a hate thread. Since I see a lot of fundamentalists around here recently, so im thinking why not make a thread for them, a thread that provides a space where we can examine their Theology and let's see if it is as they claim it to be as the only answer for questions that concerns with Religion and Spirituality.

let's start discussing this part...

Salvation is By FAITH ALONE.

after this let's move on to topics like Soli Scriptura, Covenants...etc...

if you think you have it...start hitting those keys...

Nice post bro but we need to know this truth first...

YouTube - ‪Is God Dead? Ravi Zacharias Sermon Jam‬‏

YouTube - ‪The New Age Movement - The Lie of the Serpent - 1‬‏

YouTube - ‪End Times - Introduction‬‏

Maybe you are good in that area bro but I am not the only one presenting the Christian faith. There are lots of brilliant minds in the world today who can explain well about your topics.

Why not try to raise your topic or challenge them here...Welcome to Ravi Zacharias International Ministries

[WordofGod]

Thanks for your post bro. It only shows that those groups are the ones relying on the BIBLE itself.

At least the people will know who are these denominations are...

[malic_2]

We need to know this truth first bro...

YouTube - ‪Is God Dead? Ravi Zacharias Sermon Jam‬‏

YouTube - ‪The New Age Movement - The Lie of the Serpent - 1‬‏

YouTube - ‪End Times - Introduction‬‏


Maybe you are good in that area bro but I am not the only one presenting the Christian faith. There are lots of brilliant minds in the world today who can explain well about your topics.

Why not try to raise your topic or challenge them here...Welcome to Ravi Zacharias International Ministries

sorry but i don't accept youtube videos. you kinda confuse me bai, you want to become an apologist and yet you don't educate yourself with the rules concerning apologetic, any well grounded apologist knows that videos like these are inadmissible when you are asked to explain your argumentation.

AND any decent apologist knows that when you are asked to defend your position you don't ask your professor to do it for you. By the way what you are doing now is what we call "Appeal to Authority" w/c is by the way a logical fallacy.

[malic_2]

Thanks for your post bro. It only shows that those groups are the ones relying on the BIBLE itself.

you're welcome. like its something we need to celebrate. hey not everyone believes that the bible is the only source for truth.

[WordofGod]

sorry but i don't accept youtube videos. you kinda confuse me bai, you want to become an apologist and yet you don't educate yourself with the rules concerning apologetic, any well grounded apologist knows that videos like these are inadmissible when you are asked to explain your argumentation.

AND any decent apologist knows that when you are asked to defend your position you don't ask your professor to do it for you. By the way what you are doing now is what we call "Appeal to Authority" w/c is by the way a logical fallacy.

Not all youtube videos are not true bro.

whatever you call it!
And if youre good in debating, which i assumed it's your way of living. whynot challenge those higher level Christians that you can test your ability. www.rzim.com

[malic_2]

Not all youtube videos are false bro.

whatever you call it!
And if youre good in debating, which i assumed it's your way of living. whynot challenge those higher level Christians that you can test your ability. www.rzim.com

what? did i even question the validity of your youtube videos? cluesless dude you are. sorry no offense. read the rules, you want to be an apologist? READ THE RULES.

don't worry too much, they are taken cared of.

[SioDenz]

Salvation by FAITH ALONE or known as Sola Fide is...The doctrine of sola fide or "by faith alone" asserts God's pardon for guilty sinners is granted to and received through faith, conceived as excluding all "works", alone. All humanity, it is asserted, is fallen and sinful, under the curse of God, and incapable of saving itself from God's wrath and curse(wikipedia)

I say this is half true.

Faith alone can not save us,good works must be there too for Salvation to take effect.


*The mods can close this thread if they see it unfit for discussion.

Good work is a manifestation of true Faith.
If you have true faith, good works will follow. That's why Good works is Not indicated or mentioned as a requirement because its automatic if you have true faith in God.

You can do good works without any Faith at all - So there is a chance a person will Do good things because its a requirement for salvation but actually he doesn't have any Faith at all - But you cannot apply that situation on Faith.

Theres a chance that a person dont have any chance or time or capability to do good works But theres No way you can say that on Faith because Faith is in the Mind and heart.

[malic_2]

Good work is a manifestation of true Faith.
If you have true faith, good works will follow. That's why Good works is Not indicated or mentioned as a requirement because its automatic if you have true faith in God.

so you're saying that a Catholic who does good works is manifesting true faith? i want to hear a sincere non-catholic answer.

James-You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. This is from the bible and it contradicts your position.

You can do good works without any Faith at all - So there is a chance a person will Do good things because its a requirement for salvation but actually he doesn't have any Faith at all - But you cannot apply that situation on Faith.

well i thought at first you said Good works are manifestations of true faith? thiis is principium contradictionis. don't play semantics.

Theres a chance that a person dont have any chance or time or capability to do good works But theres No way you can say that on Faith because Faith is in the Mind and heart.

too vague.