***truth about jesus christ!

[malic_2]

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for us. .

sure because God wasn't too clear.

[GuyOfYourDreams]

well if that's how you want to interpret so be it BUT I disagree. For you to make us believe that the Bible is the only source for Spiritual Truths you have to prove first that it is indeed the ONLY Word of God. Can you? Recent scholars specifically Bart Erhman have found in his research forgeries in the bible, that's not what a word of god looks like to me.

next point, The Old Testament dead guys were saved through a covenant, a covenant where there was no Jesus. In other words people can be saved or attain salvation w/o Jesus.
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There are many translations/version of the Bible. The most profound is the greek Bible. Anyway before i proceed i think you're referring to the catholic bible. No offense but catholic bible has a lot of added, edited mistranslated verses if you base it to the original version.

[GuyOfYourDreams]

sure because God wasn't too clear.

no. but because our understanding is limited. There are things not we'll never understand and there are things we'll not understand right away.

[malic_2]

There are many translations/version of the Bible. The most profound is the greek Bible. Anyway before i proceed i think you're referring to the catholic bible. No offense but catholic bible has a lot of added, edited mistranslated verses if you base it to the original version.

sir, did i ask about translations and versions? let me re post my previous statement.

well if that's how you want to interpret so be it BUT I disagree. For you to make us believe that the Bible is the only source for Spiritual Truths you have to prove first that it is indeed the ONLY Word of God. Can you? Recent scholars specifically Bart Erhman have found in his research forgeries in the bible, that's not what a word of god looks like to me.

next point, The Old Testament dead guys were saved through a covenant, a covenant where there was no Jesus. In other words people can be saved or attain salvation w/o Jesus.
".

[GuyOfYourDreams]

I thought jesus was here doing all things that pleases the father. And because Jesus and the Father are one, then Jesus was here doing all things that pleases himself. Is that correct?

why is it a problem for God if all people would be like Jesus? If being with co-equal power is a problem, then he can make people less powerful than him but still much the same like Jesus. That will be doing nothing but to glorify him all the time. If that's all what he wants.

Pleases himself?? ? no, there are three person in the Godhead.

God can make us all like Jesus if He wants to.
He can make us all good people if He wants to.
He can make us all go to heaven someday if He wants to.
He can make us not to commit even a single sin if He wants to.
There's nothing impossible for God. He can do everything.
But God gave us the thing called FREE-WILL. He doesn't want us to be like robots. He wants us to decide for ourselves if we want to be good or we want to be evil and that's to be fair.
And to help us out in our decision of which side is better, He then brought Jesus Christ to earth to be an example of whom we shall follow.

[malic_2]

no. but because our understanding is limited. There are things not we'll never understand and there are things we'll not understand right away.

but God could have explained it in a simple way but he didn't.

[malic_2]

Pleases himself?? ? no, there are three person in the Godhead.

kindly explain this to us.

[GuyOfYourDreams]

sir, did i ask about translations and versions? let me re post my previous statement.

you talked about forgeries in the Bible. You talked about the Old Testament.
Now, what version of the Bible did he found forgeries?
What version of the Bible did you find that people being saved through a covenant?

Im asking this because, sad to say there are modified bibles. I mean there are other translations that is not correct and there are bibles that are edited in such a way that some verses are being taken from the book and some verses were added, etc.

[GuyOfYourDreams]

but God could have explained it in a simple way but he didn't.

Because we are less attentive to Him.
Or..... maybe we should spend more time studying His words.
There are things we cannot understand right away.

[bearish]

I thought you don't believe in the Existence of God?

I don't. I am just talking about the story that there is. And that he sent Jesus here and then we are talking about Jesus.