Evangelicals/Reforms/Baptists/Born Again

[necrotic freak]

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Yes Christians, God said, ang nabuhi sa balaod hukman pinaagi sa balaod. Dunay paagi ang Ginoo paghukom sa wa nagsunod sa bibliya kay wa kadungog or wala nasangyawan. Its between Them and God, and task sa kristiano is to spread the word to the world so that the people you mentioned will know the word of God.

unsa kaha nga paagi brad? nahibaw ka?

if thats what you believe, but he did that because of his Faith.

that is why faith without work is dead.

[JENY198]

By making atonement and repentance for himself while in the cross that is the criminals' equivalent to Good works..

Wrong. The thief did not atone himself because he is a sinner. It is Jesus who become a substitutionary atonement for the thief and for all of us sinners to the Father. Ang gibuhat nga repentance sa thief is not "Work" but Faith. Because work is of the flesh. Repentance is not work of the flesh, it is cessation from the flesh, because it involves humility nga moangkon ta nga makasasala ta.

Salvation is by faith alone and not of works.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

[JENY198]

Faith Alone doctrine is only for christians right? kaluoy pod tawn sa mga taw nga wala nakadungog sa gospel pero nagbuhat ug maayo.. pagka selfish pod anang sola fide gud....

How will you know if maayo to ilang gibuhat kung wala sila makaila sa Diyos? Our basis of "good" or "maayo" should only be from God because it is God who justifies us through HIS son Jesus by Faith alone.

Romans 3:10
10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;

[SioDenz]

Wrong. The thief did not atone himself because he is a sinner. It is Jesus who become a substitutionary atonement for the thief and for all of us sinners to the Father. Ang gibuhat nga repentance sa thief is not "Work" but Faith. Because work is of the flesh. Repentance is not work of the flesh, it is cessation from the flesh, because it involves humility nga moangkon ta nga makasasala ta.

Salvation is by faith alone and not of works.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Klaru man diay kaayu sa Ephesians 2:8-9

[necrotic freak]

Wrong. The thief did not atone himself because he is a sinner. It is Jesus who become a substitutionary atonement for the thief and for all of us sinners to the Father. Ang gibuhat nga repentance sa thief is not "Work" but Faith. Because work is of the flesh. Repentance is not work of the flesh, it is cessation from the flesh, because it involves humility nga moangkon ta nga makasasala ta.

Salvation is by faith alone and not of works.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

The thief's salvation is unique. By hanging on the cross pila ka oras is a form of sacrifice, that is where his flesh is working.

[SioDenz]

unsa kaha nga paagi brad? nahibaw ka?

Paagi sah unsa man? I said its between God and Them... The word of God in the Bible is One way - he gives the Law we follow it and spread it as it is then He judge. He did Not give that to us to become Judges ourselves.

[malic_2]

The faith is between the person and God bro! mura man ka'g nangutana ug bata sa imong logic nga hungaw.

haha. try harder,you think i can easily be persuaded by mere words? I know my logic and my apologetic, on the other hand you don't so why don't you sit tight and relax,okay? you can cheer if you like.

I can't imagine what the kind of lessons you're teaching during sundays..nawala ang imong manner or sense of humility! mura'g sa buwangan man tingali ka nagtudlo!

i said USED TO. not buwangan but sa bukid bro kay mga lost sheeps man sila.

[malic_2]

You are shifting sides now malic
how's your strategy now in inflicting the minds of the innocent people with the occult?

are your pompoms done? let me see it...wave it.

[yiennahs]

TS, i would like to ask what you know about Evangelicals/Reforms/Baptists/Born Again, are you one of the Evangelicals or reforms or baptists or born again?

[malic_2]

Works could not save you bro. It would probably be like HAWTHORNE effect in research. You'll act positively, do your human will better than that of your usual because you are aware that you are graded and measured. Same with what you're trying to say. You'll perhaps go to church, do this and that just to prove you are good and would then receive salvation. That isnt genuine now cause you know for fact that you wanted salvation as a result of what you did. Totally wrong equation.

Salvation isnt works plus faith.

I rather believe in the bible. Isn't it the basis of Christian faith? then why am i hearing words derived from confused non-catholic theologians or should I say Obscurantists?

It is, FAITH plus GRACE RECEIVED (many are called but few are chosen).

this is not the position of the bible.

Good works are just the manifestation of you being Christ like. It is intrinsic of you as Christian. It is a result of your faith. Not a mere addend, multiplier or dividend, for that matter. God be with you!

intrinsic as a Christian? are you saying that non-Christians are bereft of good works? where did you get this idea? from the bible? i hope not. By the way im not asking you about what faith can produce,the topic is Soteriology.

salvation is by grace through faith, not by works, so that no one can boast.

your statement is unbiblical.

James 2:24: "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.