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  1. #521

    Default Re: ***truth about jesus christ!


    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    @WordofGod
    I have few questions, hope you can answer with your own words and not youtube videos:

    1. why is Jesus called the only son?
    2. why was jesus not created like he created adam?
    3. was jesus only capable of doing good things?
    4. was jesus here glorifying god all the time?
    5. was the god happy of what jesus has done?

    kana lang sa brad. thnx.

    1. is there any son of God revealed in the Bible that is also a god?
    2. sorry i dont understand this question very well.
    3. I dont really know if He is capable of doing evil but for sure even if He can He will still not do those evil things. Jesus is for good and He wants people to be good. There's no reason for Him to do the opposite.
    4.He make sure that every thing He does, gives glory to His father
    5. What doing of Jesus are you pertaining? Well, generally, yes because it is planned long before.

  2. #522

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    we are not asking you to make a video oi. we want you to engage us with arguments nga gikan nimo or nasabtan nimo.
    Bro, evaluate what i presented here. That's all. Don't expect too much from me. Unsay akong mashare mao rana.

    dako kaayo ng NO bai when it comes to apologetic. wa pa gyd diay kay nahibawan oi. hahayz.
    Mahimuot jud ko nimo bro, nagbuhat na bitaw ka ug thread against sa mga Christians then karon ari nasad ka ani nga thread kay dili jud ka mahimutang? So be it, wala koy nahibaw-an. Don't be bothered with the truths i shared lang.

    so kong donay debate magdala na lang ta ani og power point? hahahahahaha....ka way klaro. instead kita maoy paminawon sa mga tao kong onsay atong nasabtan motan.aw na lang sila og slide show.
    Kasabot ko sa imong pasabot bro. Mao ni ai..tungod kay mas kamao paka nako, gusto nimo ipakita jud sa tawo nga insakto ka. But you lose credibility in that ground bro, dili na mao ang basis sa tinuod or bakak.Wala pa jud ko makabasa sa imong version sa TRUTH nga imong gitago-tagoan. I dont know nganong mahadlok jud ka mahibaw-an na sa public!

    huWHAT? this is your chance to present and prove your truth di ni uyab uyab, likoy man ka bai.
    terms mana sa mga istambay bro!

  3. #523

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    ari nako oi, way klaro si WordofGod. iya man hinoon ta paminawon og youtube.
    okay bro, thanks for your time also.

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    Default Re: ***truth about jesus christ!

    Oh, Jesus Christ, it's another Jesus Christ thread.

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  6. #526

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    you are wrong. to find out the truth you need to be critical. you should consider all angles, dili puede nga dili mo agi og scrutiny.
    yah, as i said you are very welcome to raise up questions and scrutinized any christian doctrine ngadto sa RZIM. Mao jud na ang purpose sa ilang ministry bro. I encourage you to do that. They got dozens of high-caliber Apologists there. Dili paman ko sweto bro kay estudyante pa lagi

    kanang mga youtube nimo, kung paminawon na nimo simple ra kaayo ang point ana bai, what makes it sound complicated is ang pag gamit nila sa ilang english but the point of their statement sayon ra masabtan.
    ingon ka dili ka accept anah. sagdi lang na ug sayon ra. Ask Ravi Zacharias anything about Christianity.

    LOL. no offense ha pero para ra na sa mga ignoy bai.
    hehhe..kasabot ko bro that the Roman Catholic is only covering its true identity, putting a cloak being a "christian" religion. But sa tinuod bro, it is controlled by the Luciferians (freemasons, etc..) Don't you know that the catholic have just announced not long ago about the identity of Lucifer? seems they are going to publicly pronounce that being at the appointed time.

    kani maoy basihi bro oh para at least makasabot ang mga ignoy ani no offense ha?

    YouTube - ‪Apostolic Teaching - Bro. Gilbert Meņoza - Intro to Lucifer Part1 (1-5) Visayan Version‬‏

    YouTube - ‪Illuminati Freemason III New World Order 2012 Part 1‬‏

    Bear in mind bro nga only those nga nakabalo sa prophecies of the bible about the great tribulation, antichrist,etc. ang nakasabot aning mga butanga.

    YouTube - ‪Daniel 2 #7 The EU Revelation 17 Woman Rides The Beast‬‏



    The rest are blinded from the great deception!

    Re:17:4: And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
    Re:17:5: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

  7. #527

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson_Viper View Post
    kung ma.o ni ang reality, unsa d.ay labut ni jesus christ ani.?
    That's what the purpose of this thread bro. for us to know HIM and how does His words impacted our daily lives and the current world events!

  8. #528

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    That's what the purpose of this thread bro. for us to know HIM and how does His words impacted our daily lives and the current world events!
    lisura sabtun sa imung point, father uy..

  9. #529

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    Quote Originally Posted by abortretryfail View Post
    30+ pages is a loooong read... and I admit I skipped every now and then

    So... directly? We don't do good works to be saved... we do good works because we are saved.

    Was Jesus death on the cross part of the plan? Yes... it was in the Old Testament
    When Jesus said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." this was for the people below impelled by the pharisees to put him to death.

    Why did Jesus say, "My God, my God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?"

    This was the time he was bearing the weight of our sins. ALL our sins. Sins past, present, and things we haven't even done yet. Now that's got to be heavy.

    He knew he was going to go through this. I'm not sure if I'm saying this right but He said that to indicate the moment when God turned away as God is holy and cannot "look" at sin.

    Why would God allow His only Son to be sacrificed for us? In the Old Testament the Israelites made animal sacrifices to God for their sins. The pharisees and priests would bring these to be offered to God in the inner sanctum of the temple, the Holy of Holies. This was divided from the rest of the temple by a curtain, a veil.

    But God wanted Jesus to be the ultimate sacrifice so no more sacrifices had to be made. And not just for the Jews but for everyone in the world. He loved us so much to do this for you and me.

    When Jesus died that's why that veil in the temple was torn. To indicate we don't need priest to mediate for us. We can have direct access to God. We can have a direct relationship with Him.

    Someone questioned that it couldn't be because then it would be a sadistic god to allow his son to be made in to a sacrifice. But actually it's because of God's love for us that He did this.

    Now look at it in another way. If you loved people so much that you sacrificed your son and then these people would say, "No, that's too easy. Here, we'll pay our way with money or with works." How would you feel? "Look people, I sacrificed my own son so you wouldn't have to pay your way because I know you can't do it. But you're treating my son's death as nothing? As not worthy enough?"

    Will the world end tomorrow? I don't know. What I do know is after tomorrow it's going to make it a lot harder to reach out to people. This will be used as "proof that there is no God" Maybe the End Days do start tomorrow as there will be a drastic turn away from God around the world. "God doesn't exist... hey, let's do what we want!"
    "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of man... Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot...even thus shall it be when the Son of man is revealed." (Luke 17:26-30)
    The days of Lot were the days of Sodom and Gomorrah. If you look up the description of those two cities doesn't that sound like the way things are now?

    People think that Satan is some red dude with horns and pointy tail sitting on your shoulder telling you to do bad things. He was a former angel and was THE angel in the beginning. He was described as someone beautiful.

    The devil is a deceiver. This guy is not going to be obvious. If he can lure you away from the truth with religion then he'll go for it.

    So how does one know the truth? Tellers, cashiers, people who handle money know a fake bill when they see one. Not by studying fake bills and the ways and means forgeries are made... but by being intimate with the real thing. These people are familiar with the layout, texture, color, feel of the real thing. So they know when they have a fake in their hands because it just doesn't feel right.

    What IS the truth?
    "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
    John 3:16

    "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
    John 14:6
    Then by glorifying Jesus' crucifixion, doesn't that make you in LEAGUE with those same PHARISEES that you so point out sir? Who the heck would kill their own Son to save many? Would you do so? As the old saying goes, Man is made in God's image. If God loved us and wanted to save us, then wouldn't it have been better to send his Son to teach us the way to salvation rather than having him DIE for the "sake of many"? No matter what you say sir, it is a HARD FACT that with what you are saying, you are portraying a SADISTIC God, of which HE is not. You are using plain word jugglery. If Jesus truly came to die on the cross and redeem mankind, then what the heck is the purpose of his FIRST AND FOREMOST commandment then? I don't see your point. Your point is confusing, contradictory, and devoid of Love. If you love someone, would you kill that person just to show your love? If God then crucified his Son to redeem many, then that would make Jesus less beloved by God because he could do away with him to save us, now would it? Since you are so into blood sacrifices, it's no wonder the Catholic Church is based on spilling blood. But in fairness, it is better for the Catholic Church to stand rather than have society in general be Godless. You so compare Jesus to a Lamb, does a lamb go straight to a priest and say "Hey, slit my throat."? And did I say that by doing good works, you buy your way into heaven? No sir. I said that belief alone does not guarantee salvation. If you truly loved Jesus, then you would follow his FIRST and FOREMOST commandment. Take note of the word FIRST. You are not answering me directly.

    And you mr. WordofGod? Where the heck is the answer to my post? Hiding sir? I thought you had solved all the questions. Then answer my question then.

  10. #530

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    yup personal relationship using personal interpretation of the bible.

    Mao ng gibuhat ni Luther nga naka devide sa christiano, tan awa pila na ka sekta nga ang namugna using that personal personal without the guidance of the church..

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