Everything about : RH Bill ( Reproductive Health Bill)

[networkguy]

Gitagaan man ka ug choice. Dili man ta communist.
Kung prisohon ka o pamultahon kung mu-lapas ang imong anak, musugod diay ka? Dili na sya bale wala kay apil man sa bill ang pag educate sa couples. Gi basa man kaha nimo tibuok bill?
Tudlu-an ka kung unsa imo choices. Naa ra nimo kung mu-dungag ka sa problema o mutabang ka masolutionan ang problema.

Naa naman na daan ang pag educate sa couples like kanang inig panganak sa atong wife storyhan ta sa OB/midwife nga dapat naa jud gap kung pun-an man gani ang anak unya hisgutan pud ang health sa babaye og uban pa. so para nako dili na ni siya bag-o naa ra jud sa mga tao kung unsa ila gusto sa ilang kinabuhi.

Ang angay buhaton sa gobyerno kay tagaan og maayong solusyon ang mga tao nga naa sa below poverty. kay kung busy og hago na ning mga tawhana dili na ni makadaghan pa og anak

[bronson]

Naa naman na daan ang pag educate sa couples like kanang inig panganak sa atong wife storyhan ta sa OB/midwife nga dapat naa jud gap kung pun-an man gani ang anak unya hisgutan pud ang health sa babaye og uban pa. so para nako dili na ni siya bag-o naa ra jud sa mga tao kung unsa ila gusto sa ilang kinabuhi.

Ang angay buhaton sa gobyerno kay tagaan og maayong solusyon ang mga tao nga naa sa below poverty. kay kung busy og hago na ning mga tawhana dili na ni makadaghan pa og anak

Ang naa man sa poverty level ang priority ani. Lisud apasong kung mag sige sila ug daghan. Dili baya basta2x makahatag ug trabaho labi na sa dili graduates. So kung naa means na mapahinay ang ilang pag daghan, mas maayo. Ang tumong sa RH bill is ma educate ang tanan... dili lang katong middle ug upper nga kaaford ra ug midwife/OB. Ubay2x sad to documentary(foreign pa gyud) nag expose sa perspective sa mga kabus mahitongod sa family planning. Search sa youtube ang "Toughest place to be a bus driver". Dili pa gani RH bill ang topic ana pero na expose gyud ang kakuwang sa information nila about RH.

[miyay]

ma enforce kaha ni sa mga kabos nga katawhan nga maoy paborito sa mga politiko? maski dili pa ni ipasar ang RH Bill daghan na sa middle class og upper class ang nigamit og lain-laing contraceptives, so unsa man ang tuyo og tumong ani nga bill, PANGWARTA NA SAD?

the bill is there to inform the masses. information dissemination especially to the poor is the goal of the bill. right, the middle and upper classes do not really need this. observe who amongst the citizens have a bigger number of children? not the middle and upper classes, right? why? because they know better. they are informed of their choices in family planning and responsible parenthood. most of them know their ideal number of children for whom they can provide food, shelter and education.

corruption is endemic in our culture. should we stop services then? should we stop building road, bridges, schools and hospitals because as you said, pangwarta nasad?

population is the greatest asset of a nation. but if the quality of that population deteriorates it is also the downfall of a nation.

[GemWArrioR]

sugod na sad ka anang bashing... hehe
I may sound dumb for repeating it. Maybe because i'm talking to one. You don't get the point. You keep on repeating that RH bill is giving rights to minors on contraceptives/services/engaging in s*x when the fact is RH bill is not making any difference such as giving/adding rights for minors to access to contraceptives/engage in s*x. Dili man kaha bawal sa balaod nato, so pasabot, pwede ra bisan wala pay RH bill. Nya sige ka yawyaw na RH bill ang mag hatag ug rights.

about sa frenzy, dugay kau na ang frenzy. bisan dili pareha ka dugay sa trust pero dugay na. nganu gud tawn mag himo ko ug istorya? dili man ko pareha nimo.

I never said teaching abstinence did not work. What I said was.. It was never done effectively. Specially by the Catholic church na saba kaayo ani.
The gov't can't promote strictly abstinence kay mahimo na nang religious stand. Separation of church and state, dapat walay paboran na religion ang state.

relax lang part. ang maayo nga trabaho sa imo kay software tester/QA.
gahi kaayo ka ug mindset. strength na nimo.

bronson, tried dat, it seems that he doesn't understand, or don't want to understand that RH Bill will help promote family wellness. and slow down the population growth..

RH Bill is abortion, RH Bill also promotes NFP(natural family planning) then NFP is also abortion.... toinkssss...

[GemWArrioR]

Kasabot man ko sa imong point na pandemic na gyud ang PMS now the question is. IF we had RH bill now, what stopping us from prohibiting teens not to engage *** when the bill state that no discrimination everyone have RH rights? if contraceptives is readily accessible, PMS will be much more pandemic.

Paki point kuno which part did i said na tudluan ug *** ang mga student with *** ed class ? pareho man mo ni bronson. you putting words on my mouth if you manage to come up with that conclusion ikaw gyud ang T-A-N-G-A.
gun analogy lol ayaw ko ingna tagaan nimo condom/rh services mga teens they will know to control themselves

Good or bad kadugay na ang *** ed noh, the point is why does the RH bill give RH rights to teens, when we are telling them not to engage in *** at the early age. ngano mugamay man ang incident sa PMs when igo na lang sila mangayo ug contraceptives ? please tubaga sad ako kapila na nako ni gibalik2x.

Para mas simple... in the absence of *** education cause it is now considered to make *** education optional (di na compulsory). Why do we have to give RH rights to teens, when we are telling them not to engage in *** ? di ba it will create mix message?

The only way to prevent PMS is to sexually oppressed them / force them to obey the NO PMS rule -- abstinence. If we give them RH rights we will not gonna prevent sexual liberation cause once the RH bill is enacted, theres no stopping it. Like you said and some other here that media play a role on sexual mentality. Teens will learn about *** from the media, porns, from other teen, etc. if they ultimately decide it, the state which guarantee RH rights to all must heed and gave then contraceptives.

Bai wa pa kagamit ug condom? lol you wont get STI if you wont have *** with people who have it, if not sure you buy your own condom

prevention is better lagi, what happen to thailand with 100% condom use program ni result to 1M+ case of HIV compare to what 7000 cases here. condom use also induced riskier *** .

toinks toinks....

RH Bill does not promote PMS.... bangaa jud nimo, pabalik balik lang ko explain sa coco head mo do......

nasa atin ang final desisyon if mag engage ta sa PMS, with or with the bill.........

kani pinaka bugo from g e r low moe jin

->Bai wa pa kagamit ug condom? lol you wont get STI if you wont have *** with people who have it, if not sure you buy your own condom <-

pangutana kahibaw ba ka kung may sakit ang tao na may STI?? mostly sa kanila wala symptons, you don't know who has it or not, especially if ang tao daghan partners..

ambot lang nimo
->The only way to prevent PMS is to sexually oppressed them / force them to obey the NO PMS rule -- abstinence. If we give them RH rights we will not gonna prevent sexual liberation cause once the RH bill is enacted, theres no stopping it. Like you said and some other here that media play a role on sexual mentality. Teens will learn about *** from the media, porns, from other teen, etc. if they ultimately decide it, the state which guarantee RH rights to all must heed and gave then contraceptives.<-

its in our decision to engae in PMS with/without RH Bill..
kaya nga gipangutana tika, UNSA IMO BUHATON TO STOP PMS
The only way to prevent PMS is to sexually oppressed them / force them to obey the NO PMS rule -- abstinence pinaka bogo na sagot.... tandaan ang kasabiha " its easier said than done "

RH Bill does not stop PMS or s*x - it promotes awarenes, the bad side of unprotected s*x. especially if dili ka pa ready.......

[godwhacker]

Mao gani niingun ko nga mawala ra jpon kwenta ang bill ani in case kay wala ra man gihapon buhtaon ang gobyerno kung magpatuyang lang gihapon sila himo ug bata..

You are right but you have to remember that this bill is actually testing the waters. Usa ini mahibaw-an sa mga policy makers kung asa kutob ang influence sa simbahan. This, I want to know also. This bill when turned into law will determine wether the church is still that much powerful or not. Nganu gusto ko mahibawo? the church is always there meddling on things which is outside of its turf. Ayaw nalang ang population control. Think about other things like environment, economics etc, etc. mag apil apil pirme ang simbahan. Nganu nga ang simbahan ra man sad dinhi sa pilipinas maoy apil apilon kaayo? Nganu sa ubang nasud nga kana sila bisan mga katoliko pero sa mga butang nga way labot ang simbahan, di man sila mag apil apil?

And as we know ug mopalpak ang balaud, simple, change or amend the law. But somebody must boldly take the challenge and I commend the president for this. The good thing is something is being started.

[networkguy]

Ang naa man sa poverty level ang priority ani. Lisud apasong kung mag sige sila ug daghan. Dili baya basta2x makahatag ug trabaho labi na sa dili graduates. So kung naa means na mapahinay ang ilang pag daghan, mas maayo. Ang tumong sa RH bill is ma educate ang tanan... dili lang katong middle ug upper nga kaaford ra ug midwife/OB. Ubay2x sad to documentary(foreign pa gyud) nag expose sa perspective sa mga kabus mahitongod sa family planning. Search sa youtube ang "Toughest place to be a bus driver". Dili pa gani RH bill ang topic ana pero na expose gyud ang kakuwang sa information nila about RH.

Unya lagi kung ang naa sa poverty side dili mutuman ani mag unsa naman lang? dili man kaha ka impose ang gov't. forcibly ani kay naa man freedom so what's the remedy?

[yiennahs]

Miriam to Pacquiao: Don't meddle in RH debate

abs-cbnNEWS.com

MANILA, Philippines - Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago on Tuesday said Sarangani Rep. Manny Pacquiao should not meddle in the debate on the Reproductive Health bill, saying it is "misleading" to use his celebrity to enter the debate.

Santiago said Pacquiao should not meddle in the contentious debate. "Kaming mga senador nga hindi pumapasok sa boxing. Pero kung gusto mo, puwede rin."

She thanked the Catholic Church for not "exploiting" Pacquiao, who is against the RH bill.

"One priest has already said that they are not going to use him as the poster boy. I commend the Catholic Church because otherwise, it would have muddied the waters," she said.

She also chided the freshman lawmaker, saying that there is an "element of hypocrisy" in his stand.

"Pacquiao's wife was quoted as saying that she uses the pill, while Pacquiao was quoted as saying that he applies discipline to space his children. In that case, apparently, Pacquiao would have to use violence on his wife because she is not living in conformity with his beliefs," she said.

'Don't interpret Bible literally'

She also criticized his use of the biblical quote, "Go forth and multiply."

"The Bible does not say, 'Go out to the world.' It sounds very much like God is encouraging us to go out and copulate in public. God said in the Bible, "Go forth and multiply." That meant that God wanted man, not necessarily to literally multiply, but to go out to work with the rest of the human beings of this planet and to apply the stewardship theory. Meaning to say, taking care of each other, who are all in the planet living together.

"I would like to say if this is going to be a debate of biblical quotes, then I will counter with a quote: 'The devil can cite scripture for its purposes,'" she said.

She also called on Pacquiao not to read and interpret the Bible to literally, pointing out that the Bible was not even written by God himself.

"It is very dangerous to be a fundamentalist. Apparently that's what Pacquiao is. He reads the Bible literally. The Bible was not written by God ... Nobody has a monopoly of the thoughts of God," she told Senate reporters.

Santiago is confident that the boxer-turned-lawmaker's popularity won't sway the public.

"No, I don't think so. We know, we can see, that he knows more about boxing than possibly anybody alive particularly in the welterweight department, which is considered to be the' boxing title. But still, we cannot be know-it-alls. It will be very misleading to use his celebrity status to enter into, what is after all, a great debate on the political economy," she said.

'Ready for shootout'

On Monday, Santiago said that she will be "ready for a shootout" for the RH bill.

"As the author of the RH bill in the Senate, I am preparing my battle gear. After the SONA, we will be ready for a shootout. I am preparing my Navy SEALS and my stealth bombers so that we can rescue the people who are suffering from fortress mentality," Santiago told Senate reporters on Monday.

"We are going to debate this from all fronts, not only the political front, but also economic, demographic, theological, medical—meaning to say scientific. On all fronts we will debate it. I can debate all of them in any of these topics. They can all sit in one row, I can sit all alone by myself and I can defend the bill because the merits of the bill will ensure victory," she said.

She said anti-RH supporters are "people with a certain religious bent of mind angry because science has proved that the world is round," alluding to the debate centuries ago on whether the world was round or flat.

"They are insisting that the world is flat. If going by the example of Galileo and Copernicus, they are going to pull out my nails, then, I am ready to be immolated on the altar of scientific conspiracy. You cannot close your eyes to people who die every day simply because of ignorance, so when did ignorance become a national policy?," she said.

Santiago also said the Catholic Church has shut the door on the debate by saying they would no longer dialogue with the opposing side regarding the bill.

'Church can't dictate state'

She also said the possibility of the bill becoming law is "very high" because the lawmakers will heed their constituents, whom she said are "definitely in favor" of the bill.

"That is why the resistance is so strident against it because the critics or enemies of the RH bill know that according to the majority rule, which is a basic democratic tenet, they already have lost the debate. That is why the have to respond in that extremely inappropriate manner," she said.

She also said the separation of church and state should be maintained.

"Because the principle of church and state, while we respect the freedom of speech of people of every persuasion across religious boundaries, still we have to stand up for the principle in democratic governance that the church cannot dictate to the state. So the State must always argue in favor of free speech and free conscience, that is why I call this a freedom of conscience issue," she added. With reports from Ryan Chua, ABS-CBN News



just an update with RH BILL

[vipvip68]

Unya lagi kung ang naa sa poverty side dili mutuman ani mag unsa naman lang? dili man kaha ka impose ang gov't. forcibly ani kay naa man freedom so what's the remedy?

As you always like to say.... Education is the remedy.

We are not a communist country.

If these poor people are educated and have access to reproductive health facilities, the number of children per family will decrease. This has already been proven in thailand.


If dili mu tuman then they can let the church take care of their unwanted children.

[networkguy]

the bill is there to inform the masses. information dissemination especially to the poor is the goal of the bill. right, the middle and upper classes do not really need this. observe who amongst the citizens have a bigger number of children? not the middle and upper classes, right? why? because they know better. they are informed of their choices in family planning and responsible parenthood. most of them know their ideal number of children for whom they can provide food, shelter and education.

corruption is endemic in our culture. should we stop services then? should we stop building road, bridges, schools and hospitals because as you said, pangwarta nasad?

population is the greatest asset of a nation. but if the quality of that population deteriorates it is also the downfall of a nation.

kay ngano kani silang naa sa poverty side wala pahimangnui sa mga taga barangay health center? unya unsa man lagi kung di ni sila motuman unsa man alternative sa gobyerno? kahibalo naman ta nga kani sila maoy gahi kaayo motuman sa balaod?