***truth about jesus christ!

[ketllac]

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If the Jesus is God then the truth is he must be a loving a God.

-if he is the creator who knows the fate of his creation then he doesn't let sinners, heretics, non Christians go to hell.

-if God is all knowing then he is very considerate to people who doesn't believe or subscribe in Christianity.

-If he is omnipresent and omniscient then salvation should be universal in scope not only exclusive to Christians. and that includes Muslims, hindu, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, alien, and extra terrestrial life , etc.

-if salvation is free in the bible then why its only exclusive to Christians?

[WordofGod]

naunsa naka diha? kinsay ga away nimo? LOL. wa man ko nakig contest nimo kong kinsay mas bogoy. oi kabalo diay ka anang word humiliate? don't you know nga ikaw ga ona ona ana diri? by saying to people that their religion is false imo na silang gi humiliate ana.

Telling the truth is not humiliating somebody, the truth itself will humiliate us instead! As the verse says, open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. how nice

wa ka kabalo ana? there is a reason why we need to avoid topics about Religion and Politics. KEEP YOUR FAITH to yourself. kita ba gud ka diha og Buddhism or other Religon nga ga post og thread haron lang to tell the readers nga sayop ilang belief og sila ang sakto? kita ka? ikaw ra man. so im here to make you taste your own medicine. ok ra tobayan tika kay ganahan man pod ko motobay kay the more you talk the more ma expose imong sayop. keep it coming.

Kabalo ko ana Dok. There is a hidden agenda in the hearts and minds of the ruling elite. Gusto sila mo control sa mga influencia sa Politics, Gobyerno, military, religion ug uban pa. Their goal? ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT and ONE WORLD RELIGION! Why man ma offend about preaching the truths of Christ, buot hunahunaon mas angay gani sa tawo karon kaysa kanang hollywood ug mtvs nga mao hinuon naka corrupt sa minds sa mga youth!

Sa bagay, Christians are aware of what will happen in the near future as prophesied already in the bible. We are only sharing the truths we've known based on factual events we've seen before our eyes.

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Unsa may nakabug-at ana kung non-sense para ninyo ang christianity? Kay mahadlok si satanas nga makahibalo ang tawo sa kamatuoran!

Im not preaching about religion here…it’s all about the truths of Jesus Christ which is the most important thing that every human should know in order for him to understand how sacred and precious LIFE is for God. But I understand that you do not understand this.

And whose command are we going to follow? Jesus or Satan?
Jesus said in his last words, go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every nation…

huh? kinsa gud tawn ga ingon nimo nga kabalo ko sa katibok.an? akong sulti nimo nga pang doctorate ni among course. imo na pod ko gi misrpresent ha, false accusation na pod, bakakon man pod diay ka sa. bisan onsaon nimo og istorya about ni Jesus wa gihapon nay epek kay ikaw ang gasulti pono sa kalagot og kahambog, people will never listen to a self-righteous guy like you.

Hehhhe…okay dok sorry! Eyes on the board Jesus is the truth, okay?

the more nga imo e push imong so called truths diri the more makita namo nga you are not really here to tell us the truth but you are here to PROVE to us that you are right and we are wrong. mora ba this is where you get your self-esteem by making yourself look wiser than the rest of us bisan nagka sayop sayop na og depensa.

Yes you’re right,I agree with you dok! Im weak as you are and normal for a student to act this way. Im still learning dok. I can not lead you to God and his salvation on the way I respond to this kind of discussion, but at least I have shown truths here for the rest to digest. Let the Spirit of God do the work!

sorry but i dont share this sentiment. di ko praning bai.

Hapit na dok. Kana gud nagtuo naka nga ginoo2 ka! Ang ginoo lagi kanang dili madutlan ug hilanat ug kalibang.

ni ingon diay ko nga ang lawas ginoo? naa na pod ka. misrepresenting my views, logical fallacy. when I say "I" dili ning lawas ang "I" dodong. Si Jesus ba ginoo man kaha to para nimo, naa man to siyay lawas sa tao sa,so malibang pod to? eng eng eng.

Heheheh…pagkamabaw ug paminsar! Tell me anyone you’ve known in all of man’s history that supersedes the life of Christ. Then how would you consider someone whose seed is not of human since he was conceived by the Holy Ghost? Is he just an ordinary man like you?

“I” am god. “I” am the manifestation of @#$! Don’t you know the 5 “I” that Lucifer affirms in the bible which is the reason why he was cast down? The seed of pride dokie starts with that one letter word.

Isa:14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa:14:13: For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa:14:14: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa:14:15: Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

five points dok noh? mao tingali nang pentagram effective kayo nga symbol sa occult!

salamat kaayo sa imong mga tambag. nya ako pod tambag nimo ayaw padala anang mga binoang sa mga Evangelical/reformers/born again/baptists... kay mahimo kang extremist ana. ang bible karon di na mao ang original nya lain lain ang interpretation sa mga scholars.

Then basin naa ninyo ang original nga interpretation sa bible, share nya beh? Remember…the truth is so valuable that it is often protected by a bodyguard of lies. Basin usa naka nga ni protect sa truth dok para dili makabalo ang tawo.

ang greatest deception karon is to make you believe nga they alone holds the truth. no one has the monopoly sa kamatooran.

Mao nang imoha dok! Truth is exclusive dokie. Even you on your belief would consider the rest as false. Any belief that is contradictory to what we've known as truth is assumed to be false. But how do we test the truth?

YouTube - Ravi Zacharias What is Absolute
YouTube - What is Truth? Ravi Zacharias, Os Guiness, RC Sproul

mo ondang ra ko kong mo ondang ka. ay sus wa gyud ko na humiliate sa imong mga istorya. hahahahaha. ka assuming pod nimo bai. padayon diha share sa imong beliefs kay padayon pod ko ako diri. ayaw lang kasoko.

heeheh..bitaw, dili jud ta magdaug dok. Ang nakanindot lang kay elementary ra ang imong gitubayan. How about try to refute those higher level Christians Doktor?

YouTube - C.S. Lewis shares "Why I'm Not an Atheist"

[WordofGod]

@malic

Dok, ang nakanindot ani bah kay medyo nagkainit na ang friction sa atong debate then in the end makabalo ta nga silingan ra diay ta, kumpare or classmate pag college…hahahahahah! Butangi peace daan Dok ha!

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[WordofGod]

If the Jesus is God then the truth is he must be a loving a God.

-if he is the creator who knows the fate of his creation then he doesn't let sinners, heretics, non Christians go to hell.

-if God is all knowing then he is very considerate to people who doesn't believe or subscribe in Christianity.

-If he is omnipresent and omniscient then salvation should be universal in scope not only exclusive to Christians. and that includes Muslims, hindu, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, alien, and extra terrestrial life , etc.

-if salvation is free in the bible then why its only exclusive to Christians?

All religion or beliefs is exclusive in some degree!

Christ is the marvelous example for us bro. He is able to reach out even the worst criminal in his time to save him. The prostitutes, blind, exorcists, etc...he extends his hand and is able to set them all free. It is just a matter of our will if we are going to accept him with all our hearts.

That's where the Love of God was manifested in him.

[ketllac]

good. I have questions about freedom?

Does is it imply that if I don't have the will to join Christianity, I will be burned in hell?

Who would triumph my will or his will?

[zhrike]

wala gyuy magdaog aning kahimtanga hahaha...

[Resurgence]

good. I have questions about freedom?

Does is it imply that if I don't have the will to join Christianity, I will be burned in hell?

Who would triumph my will or his will?

mao lgeh na bro...ila portrayal of Christ is a merciless bastard who says "Either you believe in ME ONLY or if not, you burn in hell. Not only will you burn in hell, but you will burn there forever unless you believe in ME ONLY right now". Such hogwash. Portraying Christ and his Father as merciless bastards.

mao btw nka.ingn ko nga kaning iyang gtudlo devoid of one thing which is common in all living entities and also between Christ and his Supreme Father: LOVE. that is why I find it as a mere NOTHING.

If tinuod jud na ang gtudlo ni santopaps or whoever the heck he is, then God is one merciless son of a Gun, because he condemns even those that have never even heard of Jesus Christ, to Hell. So what of the animals then mr. WordofGod? They're screwed then? After they die, they go straight to Hell? Because obviously, animals do not have the same intelligence that we Humans have. They don't have the capacity to read the Bible and understand that. Well?

What you are teaching us is a portrayal of a merciless God...which sounds absurd. Would you love someone who was merciless? Would you love someone who acts just like Hitler? Would you trust someone who is merciless to lead you to salvation? Who can say that he won't play around with those that believe in him?

My view of Jesus Christ is different. He came here not to die on the cross, as most modern-day evangelists claim. He cam here to teach people that his greatest commandment is to Love God with all your heart, all your mind, your entire being. And I dare ask you this mr. WordofGod, are you doing so? Because of what you portray him to be, it seems that you do not. Instead, you are FEARING him. And glorifying Jesus' crucifixion is not a "good" thing. Because it makes you in league with Caiaphas and all the high priests that were envious of him. Also, no sane Father would remain in good terms with a person that crucified or gave pain to his beloved Son. If I were to crucify your son sir and claim that it is a "sacrifice" to save all of us from eternal damnation, would you be dispensed kindly to me? If you are still, you must be out of your mind.

To close this out Mr. WordofGod, I leave you with these lyrics:

Well, I was walking down the road one day
Lost, you might say
When a fellow leapt upon me and said just that
"You're lost, you know, but you can be saved
Just follow me, I'll pave the way"
Well, I wasn't digging his vibe
So I just tried to sneak on by
All of a sudden he grabbed me, and lo!
He was trying to drag me to a sacred temple
Well, I tried to relax but I was slightly freaked
Being pulled down the sidewalk, skidding on my feet
All of a sudden a big spaceship appeared
With a sign over the door that said "Saved Ones Enter Here"
(For inspection, I presumed)
Well, he jumped right aboard and dragged me in there too
But when I got in, it felt just like a zoo


So I jumped out the door just in the nick of time
And landed in a big yellow holy bus — the Holy Bus Line
Well, these folks became very excited as they praised the Lord for saving me
They told me that the people in the spaceship were demons from the other team
They showed me off to everyone just like I was their prize
A soul they had saved from the other guys
Well, I wasn't really digging their sticky vibes
Like sugar candy or the stuff in the eyes
So I just tried to politely say goodbye
But a dude grabbed me by the neck and squeezed and told me to see the Son
Well, I was seeing stars, but I figured they was baby suns
So I squeaked out, "I see 'em! I see 'em!" and he jumped for joy
Both our heads hit the top of the bus
He died, they cried, and I split


Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pounding on my brain
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're making me go insane
Take your knife from my throat
Get your gun off my back
Stop taking money from my pocket
Get your hand off my head
Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pushing me around
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're the craziest guy in town
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You come on like a machine
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You just about make me scream

Well, I'm walking back on down the road
And ran into a man who looked like a toad
He wore a giant Colgate toothpaste smile
And he stared in my eyes for a little while
Then he shoved a picture of his guru in my face
And screamed in my ear, "You've got no faith!
You must fear the Lord!" he said to me
"Fear the Lord and you'll be free!"
But when I said I'd just like to be God's friend
He pulled out his sword to do me in
Screaming that his God I did offend

Well, before I knew it, my leg had kicked
Just like they do in the kung fu flicks
Well, I left that scene when the crowd screamed
That a holy man had just been creamed


Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pounding on my brain
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're making me go insane
Take your knife from my throat
Get your gun off my back
Stop taking money from my pocket
Get your hand off my head
Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pushing me around
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're the craziest guy in town
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You come on like a machine
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You just about make me scream


Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pounding on my brain
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're making me go insane
Take your knife from my throat
Get your gun off my back
Stop taking money from my pocket
Get your hand off my head
Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pushing me around
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're the craziest guy in town
Take your knife from my throat
Get your gun off my back
Stop taking money from my pocket
Get your hand off my head
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You don't own my soul
Dear fanatic, take it easy
God's still in control, don't worry!
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You come on like a machine
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You just about make me scream
Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop eating out my brain
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're making me go insane

[ketllac]

wala gyuy magdaog aning kahimtanga hahaha...

naa may mag daog bro basta gamit logic. Pero kung faith ang imo i rason sa debate wa jud mag daog ana kay ang faith are not supposed to be questiooned labi na sa mga fanatics. in this case kinahanglan mag respetoay lang. pero kung questionon sad ka nganong masuko man sad.

Dili tanang panahon ang debate bati in fact ang balaod sa pilipinas na atong na enjoy karon is a product of debates sa atong legislatura. Ang nakabati sa debate kung naay personal attacks or AD HOMINEM ug ang course sa discussion walay padulngan.

Kasagaran sa istoryans kung debate na gani murag negatibo ang impression.
Mao bitaw ni purpose sa forum kay binayloay ug binairay sa atong mga utok.We agree to disagree. not unless gi view nimo ang truth sa physical world nga uniform, non contradiction mahimo ba ang life walay positibo o negatibo nga elemento.?

[b1 huck]

tungud lagi kay free mu comment2x d na kabalo mu huna hunag tarung ang uban diri sa istorya kung maka insulto ba sila ug lain or dili ba. Feeling nila daghan man gud mukatwa sa ilang gi comment. hahayy ning otok sa uban. sagdi nalang na sila.


By the way ts, d nako ma open ang gi link nimu hehehe.

[WordofGod]

good. I have questions about freedom?

Does is it imply that if I don't have the will to join Christianity, I will be burned in hell?

Who would triumph my will or his will?

Only you or God can answer your question Bro! We have to understand that religion or a certain group cannot save you. Jesus Does!

kani nga claim ni Jesus bro is exclusive in Christianity only. You can believe in Christ bro and yet staying in your old group or denomination but mind this, you will never be comfortable as his truths slowly revealing in your life.

2Pe:3:9: The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God has given us sufficient time to acknowledge and ponder all these things. We are given the right mind to decide, it is up to us to believe in him or reject his words!

YouTube - Ravi Zacharias many religions claiming to be the true path

Seek the LORD while he may be found! Time will come bro in the last days that there will be a beheading for all who profess Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Saviour.