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    Quote Originally Posted by rata View Post
    im a Christian since birth.basically my religion was spoon feed to me by my parents as their parents to them. Im not really religious but i have a great respect in Christianity same as i respect other religions.

    But the thing that annoys me though are those close-minded religious conservatives who cant respect other's beliefs, opinion or views and go apeshit everytime someone asks them certain questions about their religion. i remember back in college i was invited at this christian club gathering and i met this guy who kept telling me that Christianity will save us all, i didnt argue with that, until he starts bashing other religion. This guy just told me that all believers of muslims,hindus,buddhists,bahai, protestants, and other form of religion will all go to hell. i told him that its kinda absurd to think such, and that i had friends who were muslims, budhists and hindus. He just told me that i should not be friends with muslims because **insert muslim stereotyping**.... there are allot of people who are like the guy i met that is just really annoying, and its not just Catholics but also in other religions aswell.

    anyways, i would just like to ask. when Christ died for the sins of the people, did he died for all the sins that happen? and does it include all the sins that could happen in the future of that time aswell? ... by the way, that question is not a joke. i just like to know.
    nice question bro! besides, there are still lots of more profound questions in life which we wanted to know the answers. try to search it here...you can also ask them about your confusions, it truly helps!

    Nindot jud kung ma founded daan ang atong faith on the truth which is Jesus Christ before ta maminaw all the negative tricks of satan floating around. Samot ta malayo sa truth if negative na daan ang na program sa atong mind.

    YouTube - Is GOD Dead ? ...
    Ravi Zacharias International Ministries :: Resources

    more sources...
    Apologetics 315
    YouTube - Need God? What if I don't? (Ravi Zacharias)
    HeartCry Missionary Society

    Good luck bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE KID View Post
    ^^ bwahahhahahah...nope...basa lang og libro about JC Viper in a socio-political views...
    ay e.share nlng namu dri, yul.. para daghan sad maka hibaw ba..

    wa mi time anang 2k pages nga book, nya amung gipangita kay 1 line ra..



    di btaw mi mu lalis nmu kay wa gud mi kabasa..

    like ana ilang 3 gods; 1 mother ay.. nag huwat paku asay tinuud ana nilang duha..

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    ^^ mao rato ang ma share nako Kris..hehehehe

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    Know more truths about Christianity here....lots of downloads and reading materials that will answer most of life's questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rata View Post
    im a Christian since birth.basically my religion was spoon feed to me by my parents as their parents to them. Im not really religious but i have a great respect in Christianity same as i respect other religions.

    But the thing that annoys me though are those close-minded religious conservatives who cant respect other's beliefs, opinion or views and go apeshit everytime someone asks them certain questions about their religion. i remember back in college i was invited at this christian club gathering and i met this guy who kept telling me that Christianity will save us all, i didnt argue with that, until he starts bashing other religion. This guy just told me that all believers of muslims,hindus,buddhists,bahai, protestants, and other form of religion will all go to hell. i told him that its kinda absurd to think such, and that i had friends who were muslims, budhists and hindus. He just told me that i should not be friends with muslims because **insert muslim stereotyping**.... there are allot of people who are like the guy i met that is just really annoying, and its not just Catholics but also in other religions aswell.

    anyways, i would just like to ask. when Christ died for the sins of the people, did he died for all the sins that happen? and does it include all the sins that could happen in the future of that time aswell? ... by the way, that question is not a joke. i just like to know.
    this is how we should think.

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    Hinumdumi ni oh:

    Religion is an opium of war..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    @ malic:

    Doktor, hehehh..ang mas kataw-anan ani kay kung dunay i-publish na sa news bah nga ang title “Usa ka doktor2 ug nagdahum sa iyang kaugalingon nga ginoo2, gibartolina!”…hhehehehe. Kumedya rana dok ha, ai lang tubay anah. Lisud bitaw dok kung mo-humiliate ta sa atong isig ka tawo kay dili jud ta maghuman. Dili ka maka-convince sa akoa, likewise ako. Puro manta kamao anang binugoy. but dili na mao atong tumong diri sa istorya kay puno2 lang na sa kalibug sa wala pa nakabalo ug mosamot lang malayo sila sa kamatuoran.
    naunsa naka diha? kinsay ga away nimo? LOL. wa man ko nakig contest nimo kong kinsay mas bogoy. oi kabalo diay ka anang word humiliate? don't you know nga ikaw ga ona ona ana diri? by saying to people that their religion is false imo na silang gi humiliate ana. wa ka kabalo ana? there is a reason why we need to avoid topics about Religion and Politics. KEEP YOUR FAITH to yourself. kita ba gud ka diha og Buddhism or other Religon nga ga post og thread haron lang to tell the readers nga sayop ilang belief og sila ang sakto? kita ka? ikaw ra man. so im here to make you taste your own medicine. ok ra tobayan tika kay ganahan man pod ko motobay kay the more you talk the more ma expose imong sayop. keep it coming.

    Kung moingon ka nga mas ni evolved ka ug nakabalo ka sa kinatibuk-an, nasayop ka dokie. Ang quest for the ultimate truth has been the subject of man’s longing for a God. Since the fall of Man, wala nay tawo sa kalibutan nga naka attain sa ultimate knowledge about THE TRUTH for we’ve been dead spiritually, except the person who is the Ultimate truth who walked a perfect life on this earth. Ang usa ka tawo dokie nga nakabalo sa Ultimate knowledge ug truth knows how to reach out those unfortunate ones, the lowliest of humans, to the poorest of all and you can see that in the life and works of Jesus Christ.
    huh? kinsa gud tawn ga ingon nimo nga kabalo ko sa katibok.an? akong sulti nimo nga pang doctorate ni among course. imo na pod ko gi misrpresent ha, false accusation na pod, bakakon man pod diay ka sa. bisan onsaon nimo og istorya about ni Jesus wa gihapon nay epek kay ikaw ang gasulti pono sa kalagot og kahambog, people will never listen to a self-righteous guy like you.

    the more nga imo e push imong so called truths diri the more makita namo nga you are not really here to tell us the truth but you are here to PROVE to us that you are right and we are wrong. mora ba this is where you get your self-esteem by making yourself look wiser than the rest of us bisan nagka sayop sayop na og depensa.

    Evil is so rampant in our times dok which means that Satan is doing his job well since he knows that his time is coming short. Ayaw ka pagsugot nga mahimo kang instrumento nga iyang gamiton lang sa kadautan! Unless if you are self-centered and assumed to be a god. Haven’t you noticed bisan sa mga advertisements sa yahoo, youtube, etc. nga nagamit sila ug mga subliminal programming nga mga evil? Just observe the flashing images. Sila ang nag control sa media ug ilang goal is to ruin God’s creation and humanity by stripping off the moral in us through evil programming of our subconscious minds. BE NOT DECEIVED!
    sorry but i dont share this sentiment. di ko praning bai.

    Dili importante sa tawo unsaon pagpalugwa2 sa iyang mata karon panahuna dokie. Wala kay kalainan sa mga ginoo2 sa greek mythology. Nindot lang nila kay nahimo man silang known sa atong HS subjects, kita, wala gani tay lapida sa atong pagka ginoo2. Dili ug imposible jud ka mahimo nga ginoo kay tawo ra jud ka kutob. That is the greatest deception karon kay bisan pa ug kamao ka magpabuka sa imong mata, mamatay ra gihapon ka ug mangatubang ka sa imong creator one day. Ang ginoo doktor kanang dili na madutlan ug hilanat ug kalibang. Ayaw ka patunto anang bisyoha! Daghan nang nanggawas anang nagpractice sa occult. Ayaw sayangi imong kinabuhi and do not be too proud of your knowledge now! Remember Lucifer’s fall.
    ni ingon diay ko nga ang lawas ginoo? naa na pod ka. misrepresenting my views, logical fallacy. when I say "I" dili ning lawas ang "I" dodong. Si Jesus ba ginoo man kaha to para nimo, naa man to siyay lawas sa tao sa,so malibang pod to? eng eng eng.

    salamat kaayo sa imong mga tambag. nya ako pod tambag nimo ayaw padala anang mga binoang sa mga Evangelical/reformers/born again/baptists... kay mahimo kang extremist ana. ang bible karon di na mao ang original nya lain lain ang interpretation sa mga scholars. ang greatest deception karon is to make you believe nga they alone holds the truth. no one has the monopoly sa kamatooran.

    Undangon kaha tani atong bisyo nga binata kayo dok..hhehe. Bitaw, sorry kayo sa akong mga kumedya ug humiliating nga istorya diri. I know dili ni makatabang sa atong tagsa2. Padayon lang gihapon ta ug share sa atong beliefs. We are living only temporary in this world, what a person needs is to know the gift of God’s eternal salvation which can only be attain through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    mo ondang ra ko kong mo ondang ka. ay sus wa gyud ko na humiliate sa imong mga istorya. hahahahaha. ka assuming pod nimo bai. padayon diha share sa imong beliefs kay padayon pod ko ako diri. ayaw lang kasoko.

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    this thread is madness......

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    ^^OT: this is Spartaaaaaaaa............

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    tarunga pod ng imong facts oi. kong similarities lang mas dool dool mo kay mogamit pod na sila og bibliya. kami wa man mi bible og di man ni Relihiyon amoa.
    Dok, kabalo ba ka nga bisan si satanas mogamit sad ug verse sa bible? pareha nimo gud hilig kayo mo twist sa truth sa bible Yes you can consider it not a religion but still it has something to do with the occult! anything that is hidden doktor and something that is satanic in nature, mahadlok jud ma reveal sa public. Of course if it is the truth, then it should be known and widespread since from the beginning.

    YouTube - Ravi Zacharias Ques. on Jesus and Society

    nigawas napod ng imong mga unfounded og mga UNBIBLICAL nga mga accusations. kinsa gud tawn ga ingon nimo nga kong tagoon Satanic/Luciferian na? imo man ganing bible ga ingon nga si Hesus gi TAGO nia ang mga inner meanings sa iyang mga parables sa masa og kato ra iyang mga inner circle gihatagan sa mga sakto nga meanings. So Lucifer pod si Jesus?
    hehhehe...Lucifer si Jesus? Katubag ka ana, doktor man jud ka. Of course! bisan karon kung ang tawo ignorante pa sa bibliya then makabasa sa mga parables, dili jud makasabot sa meaning. Jesus unlocked the profound meaning of his parables only to the selected few, his disciples, for them to obtain knowledge of the coming kingdom of God. And it has been relayed up to these present times to the Christian circle of believers. Pero this knowledge dok is totally different from that of the occult like yours nga tago2, kay lahi man ang inyong tumong ug tuyo.

    ganahan kayo ko nimo bai oi kay the more you talk the more nako ma explain nimo nga sayop ka.
    welcome dokie
    may kay nausab naka? i thought dili naka motubay ug elementary karon. Bitaw dok as they say, in every able person there is always another able person behind him! I will admit that I am still learning about my Christian belief and hopefully dili ka mapul-an nako. There are brilliant minds in Christianity dok that may help you answer your most honest questions in life. Try this link Dok...Welcome to Ravi Zacharias International Ministries.

    your question about Bart is insignificant. kinsa gud ka e compare niya. he is even acknowledge by other bible scholars. ikaw scholar ka? *smiles*
    ginoo2 man jud ka sa imong hunahuna, and who are you compared to Jesus? Why not try to compare bart with the Lord Jesus Christ? Whose truths are you going to believe? Don’t mind me, I have consider myself as nothing before God anyway.

    di man ko against ni Jesus Christ. against ko sa pagtolonan nga sayop. pareha anang imo. aw o natural ra ng mo oppose kay wa ka ka oyon,pareha gud nimo, ang ang mo oyon ka nga you don't find it reliable man. unsa man ng imong depensa oi wa may klaro.
    If you say you are not against Christ then you now have the key whom to believe as the truth dokie. Gamay nalang kuwang, even the leaders of other world religions were fascinated by Jesus Christ. His life has portrayed perfectly the nature of God and his words go parallel with his deeds. But for us, we all fall short as humans, whatever means we made.

    All you have to do is seek him while he may be found. Search deeper about Him and God will lead you to his truth if only you are honest and humble. Take away your pride and disbelieving heart!

    Where can you find reliable source of the accounts of Jesus aside from the the bible? The gospel of Judas?

    THE BIBLE IS UNRELIABLE.
    It’s only on your lips dokie. Subject to change anytime. Try to compare the occult books with the truths of Jesus in the bible and see who convert lives of misery, wretchedness and gloom into a promising life with hope, joy, peace and love. The bible is a sacred book and it is the blueprint of humanity. It portrays Jesus as the one who was the promised messiah, sent from God to save the lost. How come you believe in Jesus and yet rejected his words. Where can you read his account?

    As the bible says, heaven and earth will pass away but my words shall never pass away.

    sure, di man ko praning nga maghunahuna nga naay ni pogong nako ani.
    Sakto jud ka sa imong paminaw, daghana kahay mga praning sa imong relatives dok noh?

    lol. palosot ba oi, di na kinahanglan kay wa man madakpi. thank you but we don't need the teachings of Christianity.
    Whose we dokie? I think there are still lots of confused unbelievers here that welcomes TRUTH!

    agoooooooy...ka obvious sa twisting. basaha o...1 Samuel 16:14-15 [14] But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. [15] And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee.
    See All... states, "But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee."

    ka klaro ana asa gikan. nya imo pa gyud e twist. tsk tsk...mao nay gi ingon nga paningkamot gyud p[ara molosot. bahala nag mangilad basta makalosot. kamong mga fundamentalists diri gyud mo maayo sa, twist here and there para mapalosot inyong pagka fundie. pareho gud ani o...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61295LAfQmo<---- FORGERY,MANIPULATION.
    Hahahha..kabaws pud ka anang pangilad nga word dok ha…peace!
    Don’t tell me nga pangilad pud na imoha? Wala ta mangilad ani Dok ha, instead, we are only elaborating based on our limited knowledge in our belief. Change your word nga pangilad dok kay bati na sya.

    sorry brad by how you manipulated the verses morag ikaw ang delikado mo padung sa yawa. hahaha. speaking of stubborn heart. di ba si God man pod ang mo pa stubborn sa imong heart, so why blame anyone? o basaha ni....The LORD said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.
    Remember whenever God says "be", and it was so And try to deepen a little your understanding about bible verses dok before you complain. Ask for help with the right persons what this passage might be.

    Some have interpreted the idea of what this passage is saying to mean that God changed Pharoah’s personality and nature when He sent Moses to meet him. This is not what we are being told at all. Pharoah was not some innocent, kind, good-natured ruler only to be changed into a wicked tyrant by the hand of God. No, he was wicked before and after his heart hardened. The only thing that changed was his anger and his resolve to do the evil that was already present in his heart.Another aspect of this matter is to understand that, in verses such as Ex. 4:21, two separate actions are not being described, but a single act. God is not telling Moses to do the wonders He commanded him to do AND God will harden the heart of Pharaoh (as if to suggest that God would be forced to tamper with Pharoah’s free will in order to cause him to rebel). No, God is telling Moses that the very actions that He will do through the hand of Moses will themselves cause Pharaoh’s heart to harden. It is God’s actions that will cause the heart of Pharaoh to harden, but it is still Pharoah’s choice to respond in this manner.

    When I tell my kids to clean their rooms and they get angry about it (which happens sometimes!), it could be accurately said that I made them mad; but it is also true that they chose to respond that way rather than responding in obedience.

    “For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth…What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:” (Romans 9:17, 22)

    That God knew beforehand how Pharaoh would respond is certain. God is all-knowing. Yet in this encounter between a proud and hard-hearted man and a merciful but holy God, we have the mysterious tension between man’s free will and God’s sovereign will. In a perfect God’s dealings with sinful man, neither is ever frustrated or tampered with. God accomplishes His will and man reaps what he sows; freely deciding at every juncture his own course of action. That God knows the end from the beginning should never be interpreted to mean that He in any way affects that outcome by manipulating the free will that He Himself has placed within every man. Just because he knew what was already in the heart of Pharaoh, as He surely knows what is in the heart of every man, doe not mean that He moved the hand of Pharaoh nor tempted him to commit evil (James 1:13).

    It was God’s actions that caused Pharoah to strengthen his resolve, to stand firm in his obstinance; but it was ultimately the choice of Pharaoh to harden his own heart. He was free at any time to acquiesce and do what was right and just. He chose not to.

    puerte gyud kadaghan mao ng di ko motoo anang mo ingon ka nga the bible is the only source sa TRUTH. kay kanang bible imong gikuptan osa na sa mga revisions.
    Just want to ask one favor dok, tell us here openly your version sa truth para maklaro jud imohang belief bah.

    no worries? ahahaha, by how you behave here indicates otherwise. action speaks louder than words.
    Did you see how I pose here? hehehe...naghigda ra jud ko diri dokie, wala nag misbehave

    [COLOR=red]says who? where is your evidence? mora ta anig naminaw ni boy abunda,poro tsismis.

    Dili kayo ko hilig aning showbiz dokie, mga Yads ray maka-relate ana peace!

    [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmViqs2EgMo"]

    [B]sige kono show me a post from me where I encouraged people to do bad things? show me. ikaw hinoon you are encouraging people to think nga kong kinsay di motoo sa bible mga yawa na sila. i think di na maayo imong gibuhat, wa kay basis, false accusation na.
    Can you please paste my words here?
    Heheh..ai pamalikas diha dok! Ma-karma ka ana! Mura’g gi mis-interpret nasad nimo dok. Did I say that? Ayaw luboga kung walay lapok dok kay motin-aw ra gihapon nah.

    Yawa diay tong mga followers ni Christ since the bible was made after them? Shoving your words in my throat again!

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