Whose the real QUEEN City of the South? Cebu? or Iloilo?

[thermalchills]

im from cebu taga compostela ko..but honestly naay right ang iloilo nga mo clam as Queen city of the south. base sa history and proclamation. Cebu was just called queen city of the south due to sa economic stands sa cebu karon..pro the rightful owner of the title is IloIlo. what if ma apsan ta sa davao city so ang davao nasad nga ma himo nga queen city of the south? what i think no. Cebu is best titled should be Oldest City of the south. give nalng the queen city of the south to iloilo nga mo jud ang original nga nanagiya. ma hulog mn gud ta mga cebuano ug copycat gud..dili ko ganahan nga ingaon ta mga cebuano nga walay originality sundogiro..

True.. Naa legal right ang Iloilo mo claim sa Title. Its part of their City Charter. But how can you stop something nga COMMERCIALLY and POPULARLY established na? If someone asks why Cebu? You only need to show pics. And you'll get your audience agreeing. For you to convince someone nga Iloilo, then you better get your history books ug paghinaut nga ang nangutana interesado ug naai oras maminaw nimu.

Is it possible for Cebu to somehow lose this title.. Pwede, makawat gani ang yuta nga naai titulo. But for now.. its aptly for cebu.

Sundugero? Wa man siguro moreklamo if you copy something and IMPROVE it MANY TIMES OVER. Its called evolution. hehehhee.

[thermalchills]

Actually, bilib ko sa argument sa mga Ilonggos about their claim. Why I admire them? Because their claim is historical and academic. But why are they historical and academic? Because they have to be, otherwise, they cant get anyone to listen.

But history is only one part. Words have a life of their own, with time their usage/meaning will change too. And the people using the new meaning cant really guilty of INCORRECTNESS if they use it. Example: SALVAGE. hehehe. Kabalo ko unsa inyong gihunahuna nga meaning ani. but check the dictionary again. Ang bundok, sa tagalog, Mountain. Pag adopt sa mga amercano, Boondocks na to mean "an uninhabited area with thick natural vegetation, as a backwoods or marsh".

If one uses the old meaning ok lang pud. But they ran the risk of being misunderstood.

Besides, nick name man lang na ang QCS.. Kinahanglan bagud papeles para mugamit ug nickname? Ang importante, kaila ang mga tao nimu bisan nickname lang ang gigamit.

[PseudoSurgeon]

Wa koy paki sa ilang argument basta para nako ang Cebu ang queen city of the south. Di raman cebuanos ang makaingon ana! Hasta man uban peepz from other parts of the country.

[BSIT_KO_BAI]

Cebu.

Dba city of smiles nman na cla? hehehe

[mokiloo]

im from cebu taga compostela ko..but honestly naay right ang iloilo nga mo clam as Queen city of the south. base sa history and proclamation. Cebu was just called queen city of the south due to sa economic stands sa cebu karon..pro the rightful owner of the title is IloIlo. what if ma apsan ta sa davao city so ang davao nasad nga ma himo nga queen city of the south? what i think no. Cebu is best titled should be Oldest City of the south. give nalng the queen city of the south to iloilo nga mo jud ang original nga nanagiya. ma hulog mn gud ta mga cebuano ug copycat gud..dili ko ganahan nga ingaon ta mga cebuano nga walay originality sundogiro..

I think you're gonna have to broaden your basis
things change due to some significant reasons
mas significant ang Cebu because it has established as such during the Philippines has its own
sovereignty and independence...meaning it's our (Philippines) own rightful preference as a country
to point out Cebu based on current statistics.

Daghan kaayo basis Cebu than just a once favorite territory sa reyna sa españa nga di man ta ilaha karon
if ever you want to base it in history at least man lang do your homework and dig deeper pa gyud

[gabgab]

Cebu.

Dba city of smiles nman na cla? hehehe

Iloilo City - City of Love.

Bacolod City - City of Smiles

I agree it's Cebu, even us here in Negros would agree that Cebu is the reigning Queen City of the South.

What Iloilo is trying to do right now is to become a premier city by 2015. Mana ang groundbreaking nila for their 54.5 hectare IT Park and Business Park. and they will be constructing their first high rise building owned by Injap Sia - The founder of Mang Inasal + more projects in the pipeline.

We all should be happy that Visayan cities are now progressing. and Cebu of course leads the pack followed by Iloilo, Bacolod and Dumaguete. It's not just Metro Manila anymore kay halos tanan sa ilaha nalang.

[gabgab]

Some Net Find

QUEEN CITY OF THE SOUTH: The Real Story Behind the Title

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The title of Iloilo as Queen City of the South before Cebu grabbed it is a misnomer. It was not intended to mean the premiere or leading city outside Metro Manila. This was how it all began.

At the outbreak of the Philippine revolution, the Ayuntamiento (municipal council) of Jaro was the first to condemn, by way of a resolution, the revolution as "an unpatriotic act." The Ilonggo alta sociedad also responded to the news of revolution with protestation and outrage and evoked pro-Spanish loyalty. The Ayuntamiento of Iloilo followed suit and organized the Iloilo Volunteer Battalion.

The voluntarios, as members were called, were recruited from among the private population of Jaro and Iloilo and the adjoining prosperous towns of Molo, Arevalo, Oton and Sta. Barbara, and the more distant northern and eastern pueblos. They fought against the army of Gen. Emilio Aguinaldo in Cavite and Pampanga. Illustrious personalities like Martin Delgado, Quintin Salas, Pedro Monteclaro and Adriano Hernandez were among the officers of the battalion. The biggest financial contributors to the Ilongo contingent were industrialist Don Eugenio Lopez and shipping magnate Don Felix dela Rama.

In the battlefield of Cavite, the voluntarios helped the Spanish forces in the initial defeat of Aguinaldo's forces in 1897. It was the most well-equipped and well-trained contingent on the side of Spain. They helped in the fall of Silang and Imus which led to the collapse of the revolutionarie s' defenses in Cavite after a fierce battle for Zapote bridge. The Spanish Crown was elated with that Spanish and the voluntarios' victory. Queen Regent Maria Cristina issued a royal decree awarding the city of Iloilo the perpetual title LA MUY LEAL Y NOBLE CIUDAD DE ILOILO or the Most Loyal and Noble City of Iloilo "for its exemplary conduct and all its laudable action during the present insurrection, in organizing and equipping an Ilongo Volunteer Battalion..."

Since then, Iloilo was known as "THE QUEEN'S CITY," a moniker for the longer title, which, to our present-day term, is the Queen's pet city. This is because Manila was first granted an almost similar title by the Queen. The title was decreed to be incorporated in the official seal of the city.

Legally speaking, Iloilo has the perpetual right to the title Queen City by virtue of the said decree. But no Ilongo now is bothered if Cebu snatched that title away. It is a title that would perpetually shame us.

In the 1990's the City Government of Iloilo unofficially removed the title from the city seal as can be shown in its printed letterheads. To make the removal official, the city council of Iloilo should pass a resolution removing the title from the city's seal.

***The Article was written by Mr. Cornelio P. Panes

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[mokiloo]

@gabgab

I concur with this article above.
Some have distorted knowledge about history or just claiming something they
knew of w/o the benefit thorough knowledge or scrutiny

Once I came across with a historian and a prominent professor of a university
and I consulted casually with regard to this somewhat coveted title
and she simply told me in a less complicated and "geeky" way
I was the latter americans who gave this monicker as "The Queen City of the South"
based on their knowledge as how the Iloilo gained favor and importance to the queen
rather than the queen herself, literally, dubbed as "the Queen City of the South"
or some here based their claims lacking the full details.

[gabgab]

here's another one

ILOILO IS STILL AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE QUEEN CITY OF THE SOUTH

ILOILO CITY IS THE OLDEST CITY IN THE PHILIPPINES.
Queen Regent Maria Cristina of Spain declared Iloilo a city in 1890.
The Bacura Law ratified the royal decree in 1893.
The Americans reverted back the city into a township in 1901.
The Commonwealth Act No. 158 declared Iloilo as a city for the second time in 1937.

Red: agree mo? Murag Cebu man diba?..

ILOILO was given the "LA MUY LEAL Y NOBLE CIUDAD DE ILOILO" title after the Queen Regent of Spain, her Royal Highness Maria Cristina ordered it through a Royal Decree in 1896. Since then, Iloilo was fondly called as the Queen Regent's City in the South that eventualy led the Americans to call Iloilo "THE QUEEN CITY OF THE SOUTH" because of the city's placement as the second major historical and political hub of the Philippines.

Iloilo was officially known as the QUEEN CITY OF THE SOUTH during the reign of Gen. Martin Delgado as the Provincial Governor from 1901-1904. During the Commonwealth era (1935-1945), the Commonwealth Act No. 158 declared and bestowed Iloilo with a cityhood status and incorporated the title in the city's charter. The QUEEN CITY OF THE SOUTH title became Iloilo's official title from an offshoot nickname Queen Regent's City in The South / Queen's City in the South that originated from its royal title LA MUY LEAL Y NOBLE CIUDAD DE ILOILO that was given by Maria Cristina, Queen Regent of Spain in 1896.

Iloilo's title therefore is not a mere invention nor a self-proclamation but a title vested through a royal decree and a Commonwealth Act. No one except the Queen Regent and the Commonwealth Act can take away whatever they have vested upon Iloilo.

The royal decree was not given to recognize Iloilo's massive progress and economic development that time. It was vested upon Iloilo to honor the city of its loyalty and nobility to Spain. The Queen City of the South title on the other hand was tagged to Iloilo by the Americans because of the city's undeniable political and historical importance that led to an even better economic status. Therefore, no other place in the South can claim the title just because they have overtaken Iloilo in terms of progress and development because, to start with, the titles were given because of Iloilo's nobility and not because of progress and development.


Cebu may have overtaken Iloilo in terms of economic growth and progress but that fact should not be the reason why Cebu can call itself as the Queen City of the South. Iloilo has all the historical basis for having that title while Cebu has none. If you might wonder and ask what could have gone wrong why Iloilo lost its glory before, the following are the reasons:

- The Ilonggos opposed the putting up of the beer company in Muelle Loney because the Queen Regent who is a devout Catholic does not favor such.

- The area where the city proper of Iloilo stands is not suitable for heavy industries because the island stands on a steep ocean shelf without a wide coastline (remember that Iloilo Strait is one of the world's deepest). Shipping in Iloilo therefore did not fluorish and many of the original Ilonggo shipping families (Rama and Dela Rama) moved to Cebu.

Red: Gikan diay sa Iloilo ang mga Rama? Anyway, mama gani ni Cong Tomas Osmeña taga Negros.

The surrounding areas of Iloilo City (Oton, Leganes, Pavia etc) cannot provide additional land to be used as a sugar plantation therefore the original Ilonggo hacienderos (Arroyo, Ledesma, Magalona) moved to Bacolod to acquire more lands.

World War II has damaged Iloilo badly. The attacks were concentrated in Iloilo because Iloilo was a large camp of the Japanese army who took over many of the Ilonggo revolutionists' camps in Sta. Barbara and Lucena. (Remember that outside Luzon, Iloilo is the only province that fought against the Spaniards). Rehabilitation of Iloilo then came slow because of the city's poor economic status and the halt in the Spanish support.

Red: Pag sure... World War II ang first sentence. Ang Negros Revolution diay unsa nalang to kung Iloilo ra?

Iloilo's economy became slow but has remained valiant. The greatest disaster that happened that "stripped" Iloilo of its title was the Great Iloilo Fire in the 1960 who almost wiped out all of Iloilo City proper. It was also that time when the Osmena's took over Cebu and gave it a huge economic boom.

In short, Cebu thought that all the while that Iloilo got its Queen City of the South title because of its progressive economy. Little did they know that it was Iloilo's loyalty to Spain that paved the way for the city to acquire its title. (Iloilo sided with Spain in the first ever Philippine Revolution that caused Bonifacio his first defeat, many Ilonggos fought for Spain then). Kaya nung nawala ang yaman ng Iloilo at naging progresibo ang Cebu, they proclaimed their city as the Queen City of the South but none of the Cebuanos can really explain how they got the title, all they can say is: because their city is progressive.

PROGRESS IS LIKE A BIRTHSTONE, YOU MAY LOSE IT BUT IDENTITY AND HERITAGE IS LIKE A BIRTHMARK, ITS FOREVER.

ILOILO IS STILL AND WILL ALWAYS BE
THE QUEEN CITY OF THE SOUTH,
The FIRST and TRULY the ONLY "QUEEN CITY of the South."

THIS ENTRY IS STILL UNDERGOING CONTINUOUS RESEARCH.
MORE DETAILS ABOUT ILOILO BEING THE QUEEN CITY OF THE SOUTH WILL BE POSTED SOON

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[mlnsgbn]

cebu alalng muingon ta iloilo dili man ta taga didto