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    Default Pope Francis versus The Vatican


    The Truth about Pope Francis and Atheists : The New Yorker

    Catholic Church confirms atheists still go to hell, after Pope Francis suggests they might go to heaven - Europe - World - The Independent

    Pope Francis: "Even aethiests can go to Heaven as long as they do good."
    The Vatican (thru Rev Rosica): "Nope. The Pope got it wrong. Aetheists do go to Hell."

    Just when someone tries to bridge the gap, the Vatican screws it up again. So much for "tolerance, love, and brotherhood."

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    the atheists and even other religious groups have the highest respect to pope francis...and hell? apparently, they didn't know that's one place atheists have to worry about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by #tag View Post
    The Truth about Pope Francis and Atheists : The New Yorker

    Catholic Church confirms atheists still go to hell, after Pope Francis suggests they might go to heaven - Europe - World - The Independent

    Pope Francis: "Even aethiests can go to Heaven as long as they do good."
    The Vatican (thru Rev Rosica): "Nope. The Pope got it wrong. Aetheists do go to Hell."

    Just when someone tries to bridge the gap, the Vatican screws it up again. So much for "tolerance, love, and brotherhood."
    The Vatican did the right thing, stand up to what it believe is the truth. The Pope's statement is like a poisonous candy. Tasty, yet poisonous.

    Kung buhi pa to si Pedro basin makasab-an ni si Pope Francis..
    Last edited by NapoleonBlownapart; 04-09-2014 at 10:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    the atheists and even other religious groups have the highest respect to pope francis...and hell? apparently, they didn't know that's one place atheists have to worry about...
    That's what I thought so too.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    The Vatican did the right thing, stand up to what it believe is the truth. The Pope's statement is like a poisonous candy. Tasty, yet poisonous.
    So the Pope lied? He's wrong? He's supposed to be infallible.

    That aside, he attempts to reach out and is only cut down by his own colleagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #tag View Post
    So the Pope lied? He's wrong? He's supposed to be infallible.
    i think that's what he's implying...
    in the internetz, we're infallible...

    i think this belongs to the general discussions area...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    i think that's what he's implying...
    in the internetz, we're infallible...
    lol

    i think this belongs to the general discussions area...
    My bad. Can a mod kindly move this to the right forum please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by #tag View Post
    That's what I thought so too.


    So the Pope lied? He's wrong? He's supposed to be infallible.

    That aside, he attempts to reach out and is only cut down by his own colleagues.
    Yes and Yes. The Pope statement is a denial of the basic teaching of the apostles about salvation. He is denying one of the foundation of the Christian faith. He is denying the work of Christ on the cross. You see, if people can go to heaven by just doing good without having faith in Jesus then what's the purpose for Christ's sacrifice?

    Di man ni dogma.. di ra ma issue ang Papal Infallibility ani.

    I understand your point maayo man unta iya purpose pero di jud na dapat ligsan ang imong kaugalingong pagtuo para lang sa pag reach out. Kun di gud sila motuo ila na na basta kay nakasulti ka sa unsay imong gituohan nga sakto. Lain sad kaayog pugson kun di sila ganahan..

    Mao na tingali ni ang giingon ni Pablo sauna "But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money,... having a form of godliness but denying its power."
    Last edited by NapoleonBlownapart; 04-09-2014 at 10:43 AM.

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    Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romas 12:21)
    A man's heart devises his way: but the LORD directs his steps. (Proverbs 16:9)

    The Pope just continue what was the Good doings of Jesus Christ in terms of guidance,
    but still not so sure about the Non believers as the Pope mentioned ''Might be''.

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    People judge it again. If u bother what Pope sez, just ignore it instead posting negatives here. Some people who care Pope were offend of this post from TS. Lets just respect the people who cares to Pope cause this thread it will lead to offend people who is a solid Roman Catholic Istoryans. Lets just mind our personal business and interest instead poisoning people thoughts.
    Naa nasad ni gi post o gi sugdan sa TS. It will cause hatred again.

    LETS JUST RESPECT what other people's faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    The Vatican did the right thing, stand up to what it believe is the truth. The Pope's statement is like a poisonous candy. Tasty, yet poisonous.

    Kung buhi pa to si Pedro basin makasab-an ni si Pope Francis..
    hangtud karun naa pa diay motuo sa hell? since when man ni naay hell since homo erectus pa ang mga tao? puno na kaayo ang heaven ug hell for millions of years. makit-an pa kaha didto sila's Cleopatra, Julius Ceasar, Napoleon, Hitler, Rizal. etc.

    ang Heaven ug Hell naa sa Earth mintras buhi pa ka. kung kugihan ka unya buotan sa isig katao nimo Heaven imong kinabuhi bisag unsa pa imo Religion maski aetheist pa. pero kung salbahis ka, commit kag crime Hell gyud imong kinabuhi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    The Vatican did the right thing, stand up to what it believe is the truth. The Pope's statement is like a poisonous candy. Tasty, yet poisonous.

    Kung buhi pa to si Pedro basin makasab-an ni si Pope Francis..
    hangtud karun naa pa diay motuo sa hell? since when man ni naay hell since homo erectus pa ang mga tao? puno na kaayo ang heaven ug hell for millions of years. makit-an pa kaha didto sila's Cleopatra, Julius Ceasar, Napoleon, Hitler, Rizal. etc.

    ang Heaven ug Hell naa sa Earth mintras buhi pa ka. kung kugihan ka unya buotan sa isig katao nimo Heaven imong kinabuhi bisag unsa pa imo Religion maski aetheist pa. pero kung salbahis ka, commit kag crime Hell gyud imong kinabuhi.

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