What is the truth?

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What is the truth?
By Benjamin R. Ypil

I have been closely watching developments of the much-ballyhooed Gloria tape controversy and I`d like to share the following with the readers.

--In a TV interview with Gene Orejana, former Comelec chair Christian Monsod admitted, albeit grudgingly, that “it isn’t uncommon for candidates to call poll officials, and, yes, even Comelec commissioners to inquire into the outcome of the elections.”

If it were not for his notoriety, Garci’s conversation with President Arroyo, therefore, was not really “uncommon” between an anxious candidate and a poll official.

--Unknown to many, perhaps, President Arroyo, lost miserably in Iligan City where she grew up as a child, so too her own protégé, then reelectionist mayor Franklin Quijano, whose family roots, incidentally, are from Cebu. If Garci were an effective “dagdag-bawas” operator, how come he was unable to “protect” President Arroyo’s votes right in her own turf?

--How come Robert Barbers, a staunch and loyal partymate as the “First Gentleman” intimated to Garci, lost to Rodolfo Biazon, a recalcitrant and sometimes maverick reelectionist senator?

--By the way, where’s the “mother tape”? Is it with Sen. Panfilo Lacson, former senator Francisco Tatad, former NBI deputy director Samuel Ong, or with Erap’s counsel Allan Paguia?

Is this the same Ong who organized a blitzkrieg presscon on alleged election fraud in Cebu and paraded “volunteer witnesses” whose faces were covered by hankies and only to be unmasked by the driver of the van hired to pick up the jeepney and bus dispatchers as paid to pose as “witnesses”?

Finally, what is the truth? Can the truth be ferreted out from the “mother tape” if played in its entirety, or from the “adulterated, spliced and altered” version of Paguia?

[FK]

--Unknown to many, perhaps, President Arroyo, lost miserably in Iligan City where she grew up as a child, so too her own protégé, then reelectionist mayor Franklin Quijano, whose family roots, incidentally, are from Cebu. If Garci were an effective “dagdag-bawas” operator, how come he was unable to “protect” President Arroyo’s votes right in her own turf?

Kumpiyansa? Because her own turn were not included in the masterplan or Garci can't manipulate the votes there kay ang taw tingali didto dili mapalit. Ironic isn't it GMA not winning in the city where she grew up.

--How come Robert Barbers, a staunch and loyal partymate as the “First Gentleman” intimated to Garci, lost to Rodolfo Biazon, a recalcitrant and sometimes maverick reelectionist senator?

because as the tape says... GMA was afraid nga masakpan ang ilang binuhatan and the tape quotes.

Man 2: ... Ah nagising kami kanina, one of the ...
Man 1: Ganito, ganito. I-submit mo yung kay Sen. Barbers pa. Tapos wag mong ipahabol si Biazon. May
regalo para sayo...
Man 2: Ok sir....

Gary: Hello ma’am good morning po.
GMA: Oo, oo. Si ano, si Biazon nagbabanta, kung madadaya daw siya papabuksan daw niya yung sa ... at
sa Tawi-tawi, eh baka raw ako ang matalo doon...
Gary: Baka nga ho ...

--By the way, where’s the “mother tape”? Is it with Sen. Panfilo Lacson, former senator Francisco Tatad, former NBI deputy director Samuel Ong, or with Erap’s counsel Allan Paguia?

I believe it's with Samuel Ong... the other guys only have a copy.

Finally, what is the truth? Can the truth be ferreted out from the “mother tape” if played in its entirety, or from the “adulterated, spliced and altered” version of Paguia?

both tapes were played, do you find inconsistencies?


--She was just protecting her votes... Garci stated that "ganito ang ginawa naming pagpapataas sa iyo..." Is this the right way to protect the votes LEGALLY.

--She was worried on how slow the counting was... GMA specifically ordered "can you delay the canvassing for the senators"

[darkstar6025]

on my side i think that mantz hsa a good point! bec. you really cant judge a person unless you really know them!

dont be upset on what mantz has to say bec. we really cant avoid having misunderstandings in a forum!

and you dont have the right to tell him what to do bec. in a forum everything is allowed including giving your reactions about
other peoples ideas!

so that makes mantz all the rght to comment on your idea!

[darkstar6025]

on my side i think that mantz hsa a good point! bec. you really cant judge a person unless you really know them!

dont be upset on what mantz has to say bec. we really cant avoid having misunderstandings in a forum!

and you dont have the right to tell him what to do bec. in a forum everything is allowed including giving your reactions about
other peoples ideas!

so that makes mantz all the rght to comment on your idea!

[darkstar6025]

on my side i think that mantz hsa a good point! bec. you really cant judge a person unless you really know them!

dont be upset on what mantz has to say bec. we really cant avoid having misunderstandings in a forum!

and you dont have the right to tell him what to do bec. in a forum everything is allowed including giving your reactions about
other peoples ideas!

so that makes mantz all the rght to comment on your idea!

[Blongkoy]

Precisely "impeachment" is called for because this is a better way to ferret out truth.

Others are just nothing more than self-serving opinions.

[FK]

If the pro-Arroyo solon will allow it.

[Blongkoy]

What is the "it"?

If it refers to impeachment, the pro-Arroyo did already call for one, on the basis that GMA committed no impeachable acts.

If the "it" refers to "GMA's removal from office" --- that is one political act better left to politicians than be a subject of opinion by all of us Thomases, Dicks and Harrys.

[rumsfield]

i don't know but der sems to be a rumor flying around about arroyo won't last long till sunday this week and de castro and drillon tandem will be running the show.

[Blongkoy]

De Castro - Drilon combination is still very much GMA thinking.

This will still sideline the opposition led by Francis Escudero and company who work shamelessly to position themselves in the highest level of governance. In which case, the conflict will remain unresolved.