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    Default Advise lang for AMD set-up


    Nakauli akoa sis nga nurse sa NYC gahapon, and brought me this item.
    Naka timing cya og palit ani, kay nag sale daw sa amazon.com og barato, unya mas barato daw pag bundle,,, so she bought this for $204.99 tanan.
    Cya ra nag bo-ot og palit kay balo man cya nga AMD fans ko,[pero P4 og AMD 6400 akoa PC]
    Mao ni iya gpalit:

    BIOSTAR TFORCE TA790GX 128M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
    ref pics:

    see mobo link pud:
    BIOSTAR :: TA790GX 128M :: Specification
    Newegg.com - BIOSTAR TFORCE TA790GX 128M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

    AMD Phenom II X2 550 3.1GHz Black Edition Processor
    see proc pics:

    see link pud:
    Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

    Ngayo lng ko og advise mga broog sis:
    Questions:
    1. Pwede ba ni sa akoang karaan nga P4 casing?
    2. Kaya kaha ni akoang daan nga PSU trendsonic 600 watts gamiton?
    3. Maayo ba if DDR2 1066 RAM 2x2gig akoa gamiton? Unsa maning SLI ready sa RAM?
    4. Ganahan ko 9800GTX 512mb 256 bit DDR3 nga VC, kaya kaha ni sa akoang PSU? Kaya kaha ni if mag crossfire ko? [crossfire ready ang kini nga mobo]
    5. Dagan kaha ni og games karon bsag wa pko kapalit og VC? Naa daw ni mobo ready graphic card nga ATI HD 3300 128mb?
    6. Kaya kaha ni akoang PSU if gamitan nko og coolermaster V8 hsf? Ganahan ko di na butang og daghan auxillary fan kay abog kaayo ato CPU ana.
    7. Plano pud nko gamitan og WD HDD 500gig nga naay 32mb? Unsa manang naay 32mb sa HDD oi, wa ko balo ani, naay 16mb pud?
    8. Asay maayo sata I or sata II nga HDD? unsa maning mga sata oi?

    Advise lng mga bro, kana lng pag pobre nga CPU set-up akoa ganahan.
    Ganahan ko bati og nawong nga CPU pero hagtik diay ang sulod.
    Kanang makaya sa mga games nga d ko sumhan nga hangtod karon gaduwa ko murag bata; COD4, Warriors Orochi, Burnout Paradise og ang umaaabot nga Modern Warfare 2. Bwahahahaha.[Game of the year napud cguro ni]
    Advise lang... Mga master dha... kini akong suliran.
    Last edited by canister_sa_puwet; 09-13-2009 at 02:51 PM.

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    i agree with you... bahala bati tayaon nawng akong casing.. basta decente lang ang specs sa sulud

    1. Pwede ba ni sa akoang karaan nga P4 casing?
    * yes of course... as long as your ATX casing is a ATX form fartor... ma hilhan ni nimu basta
    7 (seven imung expansion slot sa imung case... kang gawsanan sa graphics card )

    2. Kaya kaha ni akoang daan nga PSU trendsonic 600 watts gamiton?
    * yes pero i think dili mag dugay... ok lang cya if dili ka mag butang ug high end nga graphics card.


    3. Maayo ba if DDR2 1066 RAM 2x2gig akoa gamiton? Unsa maning SLI ready sa RAM?
    * yes pwede kaayu.... but you need to overcolck it to reach itf full timings... suggest ko ug DDR2-800
    nga 5 5 5 15 timings or possibly nga naay 4 4 4 15 timings

    4. Ganahan ko 9800GTX 512mb 256 bit DDR3 nga VC, kaya kaha ni sa akoang PSU? Kaya kaha ni if mag crossfire ko? [crossfire ready ang kini nga mobo]
    * mag duha duha pa ko ana bro.... try using a HEC raptor... tag 2500 ra na cya

    5. Dagan kaha ni og games karon bsag wa pko kapalit og VC? Naa daw ni mobo ready graphic card nga ATI HD 3300 128mb?
    * uu kaya ra niya ang dota.... as far as i experience pa...

    6. Kaya kaha ni akoang PSU if gamitan nko og coolermaster V8 hsf? Ganahan ko di na butang og daghan auxillary fan kay abog kaayo ato CPU ana.

    *kaya ra man man. gamay man eat ug power ang cooler fan.... but if Overclock ka toinks


    7. Plano pud nko gamitan oh WD HDD 500gig nga naay 32mb? Unsa manang naay 32mb sa HDD oi, wa ko balo ani, naay 16mb pud?

    * ako pud wala pa kaayu ko kabaw ani.... but it is also the same as DVD-writers with 3 mb cache.. para buffer na cya sa data nga padulung i read ug write padulung sa disk.. sort of waiting shed.... but i think if kung wala cya buffer... most of that queued data naa ibutang sa RAM or sa Page file... which means it add more data to occupy ... the 16mb/32mb inside the harddisk helps by placing those queued data sa buffer correct me if im wrong

    8. Asay maayo sata I or sata II nga HDD? unsa maning mga sata oi?

    * sata II is better...mas paspas ug transfer something... nindot sata kay nipis .. dali ra kaayu i taod ug i arrange

    BTW.... advice lang nako is upgrade lang daan ug power supply.... if lisod gyud... try out the HD4770 vidoe card.... mas gamay cya ug kaon compare sa 9800GTX... and then mas barato pa... around 5200-5900 php
    Last edited by Fern; 09-13-2009 at 12:31 PM.

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    at canister sa pwet e test daun bro
    tan awa kuno og wat ang nakasuwat nga batch number sa imo procie

    09****** sumthing na siya naka tatak

    if swertion ka pwede na mahimo quad core imo processor
    anhaa sa bios ang cpu configuration nga option tapos pangitaa ang automatic clock calibration or ACC nga option e set to auto, tapos restart, if dili mo boot e reset lang ang CMOS if mo boot swerti ka quad core na imo x2 550 e update niya me ha hehehehe lingaw na unlock unlock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fern View Post
    i agree with you... bahala bati tayaon nawng akong casing.. basta decente lang ang specs sa sulud

    1. Pwede ba ni sa akoang karaan nga P4 casing?
    * yes of course... as long as your ATX casing is a ATX form fartor... ma hilhan ni nimu basta
    7 (seven imung expansion slot sa imung case... kang gawsanan sa graphics card )

    2. Kaya kaha ni akoang daan nga PSU trendsonic 600 watts gamiton?
    * yes pero i think dili mag dugay... ok lang cya if dili ka mag butang ug high end nga graphics card.


    3. Maayo ba if DDR2 1066 RAM 2x2gig akoa gamiton? Unsa maning SLI ready sa RAM?
    * yes pwede kaayu.... but you need to overcolck it to reach itf full timings... suggest ko ug DDR2-800
    nga 5 5 5 15 timings or possibly nga naay 4 4 4 15 timings

    4. Ganahan ko 9800GTX 512mb 256 bit DDR3 nga VC, kaya kaha ni sa akoang PSU? Kaya kaha ni if mag crossfire ko? [crossfire ready ang kini nga mobo]
    * mag duha duha pa ko ana bro.... try using a HEC raptor... tag 2500 ra na cya

    5. Dagan kaha ni og games karon bsag wa pko kapalit og VC? Naa daw ni mobo ready graphic card nga ATI HD 3300 128mb?
    * uu kaya ra niya ang dota.... as far as i experience pa...

    6. Kaya kaha ni akoang PSU if gamitan nko og coolermaster V8 hsf? Ganahan ko di na butang og daghan auxillary fan kay abog kaayo ato CPU ana.

    *kaya ra man man. gamay man eat ug power ang cooler fan.... but if Overclock ka toinks


    7. Plano pud nko gamitan oh WD HDD 500gig nga naay 32mb? Unsa manang naay 32mb sa HDD oi, wa ko balo ani, naay 16mb pud?

    * ako pud wala pa kaayu ko kabaw ani.... but it is also the same as DVD-writers with 3 mb cache.. para buffer na cya sa data nga padulung i read ug write padulung sa disk.. sort of waiting shed.... but i think if kung wala cya buffer... most of that queued data naa ibutang sa RAM or sa Page file... which means it add more data to occupy ... the 16mb/32mb inside the harddisk helps by placing those queued data sa buffer correct me if im wrong

    8. Asay maayo sata I or sata II nga HDD? unsa maning mga sata oi?

    * sata II is better...mas paspas ug transfer something... nindot sata kay nipis .. dali ra kaayu i taod ug i arrange

    BTW.... advice lang nako is upgrade lang daan ug power supply.... if lisod gyud... try out the HD4770 vidoe card.... mas gamay cya ug kaon compare sa 9800GTX... and then mas barato pa... around 5200-5900 php
    Lamat sir sa imoang kaayo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmelsie View Post
    at canister sa pwet e test daun bro
    tan awa kuno og wat ang nakasuwat nga batch number sa imo procie

    09****** sumthing na siya naka tatak

    if swertion ka pwede na mahimo quad core imo processor
    anhaa sa bios ang cpu configuration nga option tapos pangitaa ang automatic clock calibration or ACC nga option e set to auto, tapos restart, if dili mo boot e reset lang ang CMOS if mo boot swerti ka quad core na imo x2 550 e update niya me ha hehehehe lingaw na unlock unlock
    heehehehehea akoa guro pamaligya dri ang daan nko nga pentium 4 3.4ghz 2mb/800fsb og hatag nko akoa athlon 6400+ sa opisina sa akoang papa. para puno ang halin sa PSU, HDD og VC. Haskang nahinayak man ta ani oi. Wa pa rba koy sapi.

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    ok lang bro nindot lage na if swerti ma unlock nimo. instant quadcore murag x4 955 na

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    1. Pwede ba ni sa akoang karaan nga P4 casing?
    pwede basta ATX form factor... mu fit ang mobo

    2. Kaya kaha ni akoang daan nga PSU trendsonic 600 watts gamiton?
    kaya pero if mag butang ka ug daghan fan, cooling, overclock or hi end na videocard maglisod...
    try lng buy ug HEC Cougar na 700watts... i think tag 4k+ xa.... use this to calculate ur PSU power need:

    eXtreme Power Supply Calculator v2.5

    3. Maayo ba if DDR2 1066 RAM 2x2gig akoa gamiton? Unsa maning SLI ready sa RAM?
    Every RAM man is ready for a SLI rig... ang RAMS na naay SLI certification just means it's tested on SLI configurations... and the rams are sure not to bottleneck/limit the rig when run on SLI... pero if you have a ram with 1066Mhz and CL5 timings (5-5-5-15)... im sure d na ma bottleneck... just set it right sa imo mobo


    4. Ganahan ko 9800GTX 512mb 256 bit DDR3 nga VC, kaya kaha ni sa akoang PSU? Kaya kaha ni if mag crossfire ko? [crossfire ready ang kini nga mobo]
    im not sure if kaya kung usa ka 9800GTX... i think 1 card like that draws 200watts max... so if duha i think 200x2=400watts is on the safe side, wa pa labot ang procie and etc.... but nonetheless you always really need a good powersupply if you plan to run it on crossfire... it's a must... everyone's doing it... if you can afford 2 VC's then don't skimp on that crucial component or else you'll regret forever...

    5. Dagan kaha ni og games karon bsag wa pko kapalit og VC? Naa daw ni mobo ready graphic card nga ATI HD 3300 128mb?
    yup... HD3300 is one of the most powerful ONBOARD VC that can play decent games... like COD4, COD5, DMC4 and many online games but must be set on low settings... if maxed out... frame rates will suffer to the point that it's barely playable anymore. If you want you can use your onboard VC then upgrade later when your budget allows... basin naa pa nya bag.o mu gawas or mu barato sila right? like sa HD4770...

    6. Kaya kaha ni akoang PSU if gamitan nko og coolermaster V8 hsf? Ganahan ko di na butang og daghan auxillary fan kay abog kaayo ato CPU ana.
    kaya rana provided:
    1. gamit ka onboard VC
    2. moderate overclock... less than 30% increase in stock speed
    3. you have less PC components... 2 FANS, 1 HD, 1 Optical Drive and little to no external drives
    4. no overclocking sa RAMS...

    not sure sa taas if na maximize ba pero im sure that when those conditions are met, is SAFE.

    7. Plano pud nko gamitan oh WD HDD 500gig nga naay 32mb? Unsa manang naay 32mb sa HDD oi, wa ko balo ani, naay 16mb pud?
    HD Cache na sila... used to prefetch HD data. their are very many definitions on thinks like that on google... try searching... on the other hand. a 32mb 500gig HD has little difference on a 16mb 500gig HD... cost to performance wise... pero improvements are great when seen on 1TB+ HDs

    8. Asay maayo sata I or sata II nga HDD? unsa maning mga sata oi?
    Actually to be honest, more or less thesame rajud na cla... Why, you say na 3.2Gbps man ang SATAII interface dba? it wont really matter because BOTH drives are still mechanically limited... meaning, both spindles are running at 7,200rpm which still bottlenecks the 3.2Gbps interface provided by SATAII and but fortunately IDE interface still can catch up with those speeds... unless your are using 10k rpm drives then that's a different story. Benefits of SATA would be its features like ease of use in RAID... and availability... IDE are to be phased out and the SATA variants of HD are generally cheaper... so generally, i would go with SATA for future proofing, features and newer technology.

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    D kaha mag away sa VC ani kay ang VC nga 9800GTX green team unya sa AMD gigamit [which is red team]og ATI pud nakatatak sa mobo sa biostar... Ok ba ang ATI 1950 series? Fans ko aning ATI 1950 series sukad sa paghikap plang nko sa computer. Ma crossfire daw ang ubang ATI 1950series? If not macrossfire ba ang HD 3850? Mahala naman ng 4770 sir oi, hinoon maayo gud cguro na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrA View Post
    1. Pwede ba ni sa akoang karaan nga P4 casing?
    pwede basta ATX form factor... mu fit ang mobo

    2. Kaya kaha ni akoang daan nga PSU trendsonic 600 watts gamiton?
    kaya pero if mag butang ka ug daghan fan, cooling, overclock or hi end na videocard maglisod...
    try lng buy ug HEC Cougar na 700watts... i think tag 4k+ xa.... use this to calculate ur PSU power need:

    eXtreme Power Supply Calculator v2.5

    3. Maayo ba if DDR2 1066 RAM 2x2gig akoa gamiton? Unsa maning SLI ready sa RAM?
    Every RAM man is ready for a SLI rig... ang RAMS na naay SLI certification just means it's tested on SLI configurations... and the rams are sure not to bottleneck/limit the rig when run on SLI... pero if you have a ram with 1066Mhz and CL5 timings (5-5-5-15)... im sure d na ma bottleneck... just set it right sa imo mobo


    4. Ganahan ko 9800GTX 512mb 256 bit DDR3 nga VC, kaya kaha ni sa akoang PSU? Kaya kaha ni if mag crossfire ko? [crossfire ready ang kini nga mobo]
    im not sure if kaya kung usa ka 9800GTX... i think 1 card like that draws 200watts max... so if duha i think 200x2=400watts is on the safe side, wa pa labot ang procie and etc.... but nonetheless you always really need a good powersupply if you plan to run it on crossfire... it's a must... everyone's doing it... if you can afford 2 VC's then don't skimp on that crucial component or else you'll regret forever...

    5. Dagan kaha ni og games karon bsag wa pko kapalit og VC? Naa daw ni mobo ready graphic card nga ATI HD 3300 128mb?
    yup... HD3300 is one of the most powerful ONBOARD VC that can play decent games... like COD4, COD5, DMC4 and many online games but must be set on low settings... if maxed out... frame rates will suffer to the point that it's barely playable anymore. If you want you can use your onboard VC then upgrade later when your budget allows... basin naa pa nya bag.o mu gawas or mu barato sila right? like sa HD4770...

    6. Kaya kaha ni akoang PSU if gamitan nko og coolermaster V8 hsf? Ganahan ko di na butang og daghan auxillary fan kay abog kaayo ato CPU ana.
    kaya rana provided:
    1. gamit ka onboard VC
    2. moderate overclock... less than 30% increase in stock speed
    3. you have less PC components... 2 FANS, 1 HD, 1 Optical Drive and little to no external drives
    4. no overclocking sa RAMS...

    not sure sa taas if na maximize ba pero im sure that when those conditions are met, is SAFE.

    7. Plano pud nko gamitan oh WD HDD 500gig nga naay 32mb? Unsa manang naay 32mb sa HDD oi, wa ko balo ani, naay 16mb pud?
    HD Cache na sila... used to prefetch HD data. their are very many definitions on thinks like that on google... try searching... on the other hand. a 32mb 500gig HD has little difference on a 16mb 500gig HD... cost to performance wise... pero improvements are great when seen on 1TB+ HDs

    8. Asay maayo sata I or sata II nga HDD? unsa maning mga sata oi?
    Actually to be honest, more or less thesame rajud na cla... Why, you say na 3.2Gbps man ang SATAII interface dba? it wont really matter because BOTH drives are still mechanically limited... meaning, both spindles are running at 7,200rpm which still bottlenecks the 3.2Gbps interface provided by SATAII and but fortunately IDE interface still can catch up with those speeds... unless your are using 10k rpm drives then that's a different story. Benefits of SATA would be its features like ease of use in RAID... and availability... IDE are to be phased out and the SATA variants of HD are generally cheaper... so generally, i would go with SATA for future proofing, features and newer technology.
    Haskang dako2 pa diay akoang magasto ani.. By da way sir, salamat sa advice, additional input napud.

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    ok ra na oie... hinay lng jud... start lng build sa rig from VC > Procie > PSU then etc...

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