2 ka managlahing doctrina mahitungod ni Maria nga inahan ni Jesus:

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2 ka managlahing doctrina mahitungod ni Maria nga inahan ni Jesus:

Sumala sa pagtudlo sa Iglesia Katolika, kinsa man si Maria nga inahan ni jesus?

"Mary, being altogether transformed into God by grace and by the glory which transforms all saints into him,…that in heaven and on earth everything, even God Himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgen,…�

"The saints have saidÂ* many beautiful things about Mary… They knew that there were no limits to her power, because she has power over God Himself.â€� (True Devotion to Mary)

"St. Bernadine of Siena declares that all obeyÂ* Mary’s commands, even God…â€�(Glories and Virtues of Mary)

"Moreover, if as I have said, the holy virgin is the Queen and sovereign of heaven and earth, has she not then as many subjects and slaves as there are creatures? St. Anselm, St. Bernard, St. Bernadine, St. Bonaventure say…’behold, all things and God included are subject to the empire of the virgin.� (True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary)


Ang Maria sa katoliko:

Ang mapaubsanon ug ulipon sa Diyos nga si Maria, gituboy sa Iglesia katolika ngadto sa usa ka extraordinary nga pagtuboy, to the position of the Most High! Nga bisan ang Makagagahom nga Diyos nahasakop ubos sa iyang pagmando, because she has power over God Himself. (Grabe!)

Si Maria sumala pa sa mga Catholic authorities, dunay gingharian ug siya ang Rayna ug labawng pamuno sa langit ug sa yuta, ug matud pa ang tanan nga mga butang lakip na ang Diyos
nahasakop sa iyang Gingharian. (Sobra ra!)
She has been catapulted to a position over and above that which the Holy Scriptures attest



Apan kinsa man si Maria sumala sa pagtudlo sa Balaang Kasulatan?

“Then Mary said, ‘Here I am, the servant of the lord; let it be with me according to your word.’… (Lk.1:38, The New Revised Standard Version)

Â* Â* Â*“Then Mary said,’My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked with favor on the lowliness of his servant. Sure, from now on all generations will call me blessed; for the Mighty One has done great things for me, and holy is his name’.â€� (Lk.1:46-49,)


Ang Maria sa Balaang Kasulatan:

Si Maria mapaubsanon nga ulipon sa Diyos, ug tungod niana angayan siya nga pagatawgon nga “Bulahan.� Apan wala ta’y mabasa sa balaang kasulatan nga si Maria labaw sa tanang katawhan, O duna siya’y emperyo nga diin ang tanan even God, are subject to her. Si Maria ulipon sa Diyos.Gipakadako ug giila niya ang Diyos nga mao ang iyang manluluwas. Dili siya ang manluluwas kondili, apil siya sa pagaluwason.

[tolstoi]

Ang mapaubsanon ug ulipon sa Diyos nga si Maria, gituboy sa Iglesia katolika ngadto sa usa ka extraordinary nga pagtuboy, to the position of the Most High! Nga bisan ang Makagagahom nga Diyos nahasakop ubos sa iyang pagmando, because she has power over God Himself. (Grabe!)

another lies, deceptions and mis-interpretations of the anti-Catholics

tan-awa daw diri kung asa dapit namo gi venerate c Mother Mary as the MOSSSSSSSSSST HIGH..BLAH

Hail Mary, full of grace.
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

[tolstoi]

Hail, Holy Queen

Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy!
Our life, our sweetness, and our hope!
To thee do we cry, poor banished
children of Eve, to thee do we send
up our sighs, mourning and weeping
in this valley, of tears.
Turn, then, most gracious advocate,
thine eyes of mercy toward us; and
after this our exile show unto us the
blessed fruit of thy womb Jesus;
O clement, O loving, O sweet virgin Mary.

Pray for us, O holy Mother of God

That we may be made worthy of the
promises of Christ.

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Si St.Bernadine of Siena maoy nagpahayag nga ang tanan mosugot sa sugo ni Maria bisan pa ang Dios...Intonses ang Maria sa katoliko labaw ug gahom sa matuod nga Dios... tiaw mo'y bisan pa ang Dios andam sa pagsugot sa iyang sugo.(Grabe ra! Sobra ra!)

Nakasiguro ko bai tolstoi nga labaw ug baho si Bernadine kay kanimo, busa ayaw pagsupaksupak sa iyang pamahayag, nga ang Maria sa katoliko labaw ug gahom sa matuod nga Dios. Kay iya mana dili na ako.

(John 13:16)
16 Sa pagkamatuod, sa pagkamatuod, nagaingon ako kaninyo: Ang ulipon dili labaw sa iyang agalon; ug ang gisugo dili labaw sa nagsugo kaniya.

[tolstoi]

Si St.Bernadine of Siena maoy nagpahayag nga ang tanan mosugot sa sugo ni Maria bisan pa ang Dios...Intonses ang Maria sa katoliko labaw ug gahom sa matuod nga Dios... tiaw mo'y bisan pa ang Dios andam sa pagsugot sa iyang sugo.(Grabe ra! Sobra ra!)

Nakasiguro ko bai tolstoi nga labaw ug baho si Bernadine kay kanimo, busa ayaw pagsupaksupak sa iyang pamahayag, nga ang Maria sa katoliko labaw ug gahom sa matuod nga Dios. Kay iya mana dili na ako.

(John 13:16)
16 Sa pagkamatuod, sa pagkamatuod, nagaingon ako kaninyo: Ang ulipon dili labaw sa iyang agalon; ug ang gisugo dili labaw sa nagsugo kaniya.

St. Bernadine of Siena only bespoke on the NOVILITY of MARY..i haven't found any wordings on the allegations that MARY was the MOST HOLY and that GOD was just her lapdog.

HALA BASA BROD PIT!

ON THE NOBILITY OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY
St. Bernadine of Siena
On the Exceedingly Wonderful Grace and Glory of the Mother of God

That the Blessed Virgin is the noblest Woman in the whole world according to the flesh.

The first star, or grace, is called nobility. For the Blessed Virgin was the noblest individual and noblest creature of all the individuals or creatures which have been, could be, or could have been begotten with human nature. Indeed, Matthew (1,17), in outlining the three groups of fourteen generations from Abraham to Christ, describes Her as born of fourteen patriarchs, of fourteen kings, of fourteen leaders. The first group from Abraham to David inclusive, fourteen patriarchs; the second from David to the Babylonian Exile, fourteen kings; the third, from the Babylonian Exile to Christ inclusive, fourteen leaders. Luke also (3,23-3, describing the nobility of Her origin beginning with Adam and Eve, extends his genealogy to God the Christ. Here it is demonstrated that the Lord Jesus Christ, who in heaven was without mother and on earth without father, received His entire humanity from the Virgin; and the dignities attached to this humanity—namely, familial so as to be called a son of David, and consanguinal so as to have brethren of a noble line—all these He received from His Blessed Mother. And whence came it that He is the final Leader, the final King, the final Patriarch of the entire people of Israel, if not from the glorious Virgin? Thus, it is quite evident that every bodily perfection granted the human race in Adam by the Lord was principally given so as to descend through many generations to the Virgin, and through the Virgin Mother to terminate in Christ. Hence, God commanded such cleanliness to the letter in His Law, not only in human bodies, but also in vessels, homes, camping places, and all things belonging to God's people, so that the people might preserve that nobility and cleanliness for the sake of the Christ...After Christ, that people had no other patriarch or king or leader...so that what Christ says of Himself (Apoc. 2, might be verified: the First and the Last says this. The First, namely, whom God principally intended in His people; and the Last, namely, patriarch, king, or leader in that people. Because, therefore, the Evangelists describe in this Maiden every distinction, gift, power, nobility, and dignity which might be in any human individual born according to the flesh, it is incumbent upon us, following their witness, to prefer Her to all princes and princesses, queens and kings, emperors and empresses, and all powers, tribes, and tongues of the whole universe.

That the whole world, after the fall of our first parents, was kept in being by God out of love of the Blessed Virgin.

The second star (or grace) is called conservation. For Mary alone, for many thousands of years before She was born, primarily and principally preserved Adam and his posterity in being. Indeed, in virtue of their transgression, Adam and Eve merited not only the penalty of death, but extermination. Divine Justice, which knows no respect of persons, should not have left the sin of man (just as It did not leave the angelic sin) uncondemned in hell. But for the sake of that special reverence and unique love which He had for the Virgin, God kept the world in existence. Because God loved Her above all creatures...the first human beings were preserved from extermination and not returned to nothing, as they deserved. The explanation of this is as follows: The blessed Maiden was in the loins of Adam, and his seed, and the power of producing the Maiden was inherent in our first parents, until it should be realized in the act. For of this Maiden was to be born the Son of God, Jesus, who, existing in Adam only in respect to His corporal substance, was only to be brought forth from the Virgin and from no other person. The merciful God pardoned our first parents and did not annihilate them because, in so doing, the Virgin would not have arisen and, consequently, neither would Christ have been clothed with human flesh...To recapitulate everything in a few words: I do not hesitate to affirm that God effected every liberation and granted every pardon in the Old Testament solely out of reverence and love for the blessed Maiden. In virtue of this reverence and love, God predestined Her, foreordaining from all eternity that She be honored before all His other works.
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St. Bernadine of Siena (b. 1380; d. 1444 A.D.), one of the most renowned Franciscan preachers and reformers of the Fifteenth Century left an immense collection of sermons and writings. He is most famous throughout Christendom for popularizing devotion to the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary and to St. Joseph. He also, like his spiritual father St. Francis of Assisi, had an ardent devotion to the Immaculate Mother of God.

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Ang titulo nga "The Most High" referedo ni ngadto sa Almighty God, nga mabasa sa (Genesis 14:22 )

22 But Abram said to the king of Sodom, "I have raised my hand to the LORD, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth, and have taken an oath

Ang matuod diay nga Diyos gitawag sa titulo nga "The Most High" tungod kay siya ang Makakagahom sa tanan. Siya ang nagbuhat sa langit ug sa yuta, ug wala na'y molabaw O sama kaniya. Ang Diyos mao ang ibabaw sa tanan, siya ang nagsakup sa tanang mga butang tungod kay siya mao ang tanan sa tanan - hence, God is "The Most High"

1 Corinthians 15:27-28 (New International Version)
27For he "has put everything under his feet."[a] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

So, ang Diyos mao ang "The Most High" sa sentido nga siya ang powerful sa tanan, walay kinutoban ang iyang gahom. Busa kong duna pa’y ipaila ang Katoliko nga molabaw pa sa gahom sa Diyos, nan, labaw pa siya sa “The Most High.�

Ang mga Catholic mentors nagtuboy ni Maria ngadto sa kataastasan nga position - sa position nga labaw pa gani sa Diyos.

Pueba:
�St. Bernadine of Siena declares that all obey Mary’s commands, even God…�(Glories and Virtues of Mary)

take note: all obey Mary's command, even God

St. Anselm, St. Bernard, St. Bernadine, St. Bonaventure say…’behold, all things and God included are subject to the empire of the virgin.� (True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary)

take note: God included are subject to the empire of the virgin

“The saints have said many beautiful things about Mary… They knew that there were no limits to her power, because she has power over God Himself.� (True Devotion to Mary)

take note: no limits to her power - she has power over God Himself

“Mary, being altogether transformed into God by grace and by the glory which transforms all saints into him,…that in heaven and on earth everything, even God Himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgen,…�

take note: Mary transformed into God - even God Himself, is subject to the Blessed
Virgin

Basi sa pamahayag sa mga Catholic mentors, nga si Maria labaw ug gahom kay sa Dios. Ug aminado sila pinaagi sa ilang libro nga bisan ang Dios mismo mosugot sa sugo ni Birhen Maria. Intonses labaw pa ang gihuptan nga position ni Maria kay sa Diyos.

Busa dili lang Most High si Maria para ninyo, kondili inyo pa gayud siya nga gi-mosmos!

Jn 13:16Sa pagkamatuod, Sa pagkamatuod, nagaingon ako kaninyo: Ang ulipon dili labaw Sa iyAng agalon; ug Ang gisugo dili labaw Sa nagsugo kaniya.

Busa ang pagsulti nako nga si Maria gituboy sa mga Catholic mentors to the position of the “The Most High� kini gi-basi nako sa inyong werdo nga mga doctrina.

[MrBiddle]

The Marian Deception

http://maraquaid.blogspot.com

(VERY CONTROVERSIAL STORY ^^ )

The apparitions are indeed supernatural but because they contradict Scripture they can NOT be from God.

[KS Stanilavsky]

The Queen Of Heaven?

Commentary by Roger Oakland
www.understandthetimes.org

Christianity, by definition, is a faith centered on Jesus Christ. The apostle Paul warned the Church at Corinth to be careful they would not be deceived. He was concerned that they would leave the simple gospel and embrace another gospel. History indicates that Satan's plan to deceive man has always been very effective. Is it possible that once more people are being seduced in the name of Jesus?

For example, consider the following scenario. There are some who say after Jesus ascended into Heaven, His mother, Mary, became His spokesperson. Through manifestations called apparitions, these people are convinced this "Mary," often called the Queen of Heaven, has appeared many times proclaiming new and important revelation.

So what should one believe? Is there a way of determining if this apparitional "Mary" is really the mother of Jesus?

According to the International Marian Research Institute at the University of Dayton, over eight thousand legitimate apparitions of the Virgin Mary have occurred in the past 2000 years. [1] There are many people in the world who take these "messages from heaven" seriously. They believe that Jesus appointed His mother to show up from time to time on planet earth and reveal truth to mankind. They are convinced these apparitions have happened in the past and that they are still taking place today.

Although there is not a single mention of a Marian apparition in the Bible, Catholic tradition claims that "Mary" first appeared to the Apostle James while he was on a missionary journey to northern Spain. Michael H. Brown, in his book "The Last Secret," gives an account of this alleged event. According to Brown, James was praying near the Ebo River, an area known for witchcraft and occult activity, when he supposedly encountered the first known manifestation of an apparition of "Mary." [2]

While James would have known Mary the mother of Jesus of Nazareth, a sweet and humble woman according to the Bible, the apparitional Mary that Brown describes in his book reveals a very different personality. This "Mary" was adorned in splendor and was wearing a crown. She was seated on a throne of light and accompanied by angels. The angels suspended "Mary's throne" and then the apparition spoke: "My son James, the Most High and Mighty God of heaven has chosen this place that you may consecrate and dedicate here a church and a house of prayer where, under the invocation of my name, He wishes to be adored and served, and all the faithful who seek my intercession will receive the graces they ask and if they have true faith and devotion, and in the name of my Son, I promise them great favors and blessings." [3]

While the message from the apparition mentions a "Son," there is reason to be suspicious whether or not the "Son" is Jesus, the Son of God. Also, as you may be able to detect, there seems to be a strong emphasis on the importance and the power of the personality of the apparition. An additional statement from the first Marian apparitional message confirms this: "For this will be my chapel and my house, my own inheritance and possession, and in testimony of my promise, this pillar will remain here, and on it my own image, which, in this place where you will build my church, will last and endure with the holy faith… On this spot the Most High will work miracles through my intercession for those who implore my protection." [4]

This location according to Michael Brown was the site of the first church built and dedicated to "Mary." A statue was also placed there of "Mary" holding "Jesus," the first of many that have followed through the centuries. Now in this location, a huge domed basilica stands (the precise size of the famous goddess temple in Ephesus). [5]

The book of Isaiah provides some interesting insight regarding a certain woman that seems to play a role in deceiving the world. We read: "Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate. Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms."[ 6 ]

Are the apparitions of "Mary," actually Mary, the mother of Jesus? Or could this be the same Queen of Heaven that we read about in the book of Jeremiah - chapters 7 and 44? Jeremiah called this personality an abomination unto God.

You decide!

Â* Â*1. Michael H. Brown, "The Last Secret," Servant Publications, Ann Arbor, MI, page 11
Â* Â*2. Ibid. page 15
Â* Â*3. Ibid. page 17
Â* Â*4. Ibid.
Â* Â*5. Ibid.
Â* Â*6. Isaiah 47, verse 1 and verse 5

[MrBiddle]

This thread is taking is toll on me, Mary said goodbye so many times befo- oh whoa oh oh

Her heart is breaking in front of me! I have no choice - cos di nako mo bye-bye sunooood!



The Marian Deception, peepz

http://maraquaid.blogspot.com

[tolstoi]

While the message from the apparition mentions a "Son," there is reason to be suspicious whether or not the "Son" is Jesus, the Son of God.

yeah yeah yeah..SUSPICIONS, DECEPTIONS, ALLEGATIONS blah blah..and all that RHYMES.

eitherways..how sure are you that it was the devil and not MOTHER MARY??..nothing but hunches!