The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

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[noy]

“But if any man thinks that he is behaving himself unseemly toward his virgin daughter, if she be past the flower of her age, and if need so requires, let him do what he will; he is not sinning; let them marry” (1 Corinthians 7:36).

hahaha! daan pa lage ko mao nay imung iqoute..

the context is about Paul giving advice to people who serves the Lord who are YET to be married(meaning single pa) that it would be better to remain single if mag serve sa Ginoo..we can read in verses 32-33 "I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife" but whoever wishes to marry DOES NOT SIN, so we can read in verses 26-28 "Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for a man to remain as he is. Are you pledged to a woman? Do not seek to be released. Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned." but concluded that those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and he wanted to spare them with the trouble..
by trouble Paul elaborated through verse 29-31 " What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not; those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away."

again the gist of this teaching is that if we are to serve the Lord it would be better to not marry or remain single but those who should get married does not sin but will rather face more trouble along the way..
if simply put, it's whether to get or not get married when serving as a full time minister or something like that..
on the other hand, we can contextually refer this certain bibllical passage as the basis why Catholic Priests make a vow to be celibate.
and in verses 36-38, it shows How Fathers should deal with the crisis concerning their daughters and their family honor, whether to get married or not to get married considering St. Paul's view on marriage and service.

Therefore a Father(who should be married) getting nasty with his virgin daughter and granted with marriage if dili mapugngan ang biga as you suggested is clearly out of the context brad.

instead, it points out that a Father should let his daughter who is in the right age get married if he thinks that she should or believes it would be a dishonor to their family to have a daughter who is unmarried(culture ni sa unang panahon brad, even ang mag minyo unya walay anak kay lain daw) and that he does not sin for believing such... BUT St. Paul concluded that a Father who thinks otherwise is wiser given the possible struggle or divided devotion between marriage and service. which so Paul suggested to not marry but emphasized that getting married however is not a sin. this then explains why just before verse 36, Paul said in verse 35..
"I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord."

For a better way of understanding 1 Corinthians 7:36,
here's an excerpt from https://www.christiancourier.com/art...tter-of-incest

"Paul and the Corinthian Situation
In the 7th chapter of his First Corinthian letter, Paul, by the inspiration of the Spirit, gave a variety of instructions pertaining to the marriage relationship. Some of these were fixed rigidly as a matter of moral correctness. Others were given by way of the apostle’s seasoned advice.

One of the historical realities woven into the fabric of Paul’s message is that of a serious, impending persecution that threatened the ancient saints (see: vv. 26,29,32,35,38,40). Some of his instruction hinged on the premise of this coming reality.

Here is the passage that is the focus of this “tempest in a tea pot” controversy.

“But if any man thinks that he is behaving himself unseemly toward his virgin daughter, if she be past the flower of her age, and if need so requires, let him do what he will; he is not sinning; let them marry” (1 Corinthians 7:36).

To foist upon this text the meaning that a father is allowed to marry his own daughter, if he cannot resist the temptation of being intimate with her, is one of the most perverse misappropriations of scripture imaginable. Let us examine the context with common sense.

(1) First, the historical or cultural circumstances must be taken into consideration. In that age, parents arranged their children’s marriages more often than not. A father could consent to his daughter’s marriage, or withhold permission, depending upon the circumstances. Children grew up in this environment, and they embraced this process out of respect for their parents and tradition. Apparently, these unions were much more stable than those of the modern merry-go-round, marriage/divorce glitches that so trouble society today (where about half of all marriages end in divorce). It is against this background that Paul’s advice takes its rise.

(2) In view of the foregoing, we would paraphrase verse 36 as follows:

“But if any man [father] thinks that he is behaving himself improperly [by refusing his daughter permission to marry due to the impending persecution] with reference to his virgin [daughter], if she is past the flower of her age [mature enough for marriage], and if need so requires [there is a more compelling factor that overrides the danger of persecution], let him [the father] use his own judgment [and grant her permission to marry in spite of the apostle’s general advice to remain single]; he [the father] will not be sinning [in granting this concession].”
Thus, Paul himself concedes permission for the marriage at the father’s discretion. Yet (in v. 37), the apostle thinks that in most cases the father would do better to stand his ground [against his daughter’s emotional pleading], and think foremost of her safety and Christian fidelity — that could be jeopardized in a time of intense tribulation.

This text, therefore, has nothing under the sun to do with incest."

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Mao ni reason ngano nabalhin sa HUMOR ang thread because daghan kaayo CLOWN that entertains without substance.

To the untiring and energetic , knowledgeable and who has in depth understanding of the MAGISTERIUM of the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH namely NOY, NEWBIE and SMILE ..... thank you for sharing what you know and giving insights,shedding light and sharing the teachings to the less knowledgeable , skeptics and unbelievers. You are like educators, you can only open the door of the classroom , you can not force them to enter, sit down and learn. They have to act on their own, grasp it hard and instill in their hearts.

Remember, they can only shake the faith but they can never , not in this lifetime destroy the Church.

To the rest of the Catholic members , apologetic or not , I apologized if I missed you guys out. You know who you are.

[noy]

next question ta guys.

[raissah]

OT: bwahahaha naay nang-idol ni @slabs1

klaro kaau ka @``slabdans nga peke kang daku. Mailhan ras tinypan. Lahi ra rba mo type ning MJYD wla gani tingali ka kblo unsa ng MJYD noh? bwahaha

anyway.. thanks kay nalingaw ko. next question.

ONT: Kaning mga pari sa RCC naa bay mobantay ani nila kung ang ilang mga gipangyawyaw and pamaagi sakto? I know niagi ni silag pila ka tuig nga pag skwela and training pero in the end tawo ra gud gihapon ta, masayop ra gihapon ta.. naa bay murag tig check ani nila from time to time kng nauyon pa ba ning ilang paamagi and gipangtudlo?

[noy]

OT: bwahahaha naay nang-idol ni @slabs1

klaro kaau ka @``slabdans nga peke kang daku. Mailhan ras tinypan. Lahi ra rba mo type ning MJYD wla gani tingali ka kblo unsa ng MJYD noh? bwahaha

anyway.. thanks kay nalingaw ko. next question.

ONT: Kaning mga pari sa RCC naa bay mobantay ani nila kung ang ilang mga gipangyawyaw and pamaagi sakto? I know niagi ni silag pila ka tuig nga pag skwela and training pero in the end tawo ra gud gihapon ta, masayop ra gihapon ta.. naa bay murag tig check ani nila from time to time kng nauyon pa ba ning ilang paamagi and gipangtudlo?

di kaayo ko sure rais if naa bay formal and regular nga evaluation regarding sa mga ipang sangyaw sa pari..
but whoever knows their catechism well enough to know whether the priest's preaching is still within the confinement of RCC teachings and Doctrines or wala na can always question the priest's preachings either personally or formally through the parish council or with the Archdiocese where that certain Parish belongs to if he/she believes that something is not right with the Parish Priest's teachings or process within that Parish..

[noy]

sige, next question na pud ta guys.

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