Do you believe in God? If so/if no, WHY?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Where exactly did I say I dislike your church because I disliked your God? Who said the reasons why I dislike your church and the reasons why I don't believe in your God are entirely on the same grounds? Your ability to read between the lines seems to be completely screwed.

That is based on your comments . Of course how did you know GOD doesnt like you ? You based it sa CHURCH saying that GOD doesnt like you because of your sexual preference .That made you DISLIKE GOD because you DISLIKE the church . Did I assumed that ? No , it was you who clearly said that GOD is HOMOPHOBIC .

Huh? lol... what's your point? you've got to pick the right words to express yourself mate... you completely lost me here...

You are indeed lost because acceptance of the BIBLE denied by your decision and not whats in your heart . It is clear that you prefer something not GODLY because ADAM and STEVE or ADAM and EVE issues will hit the mark as a GOD believer . So I pick the words DARWIN and DINOSAURS to make you feel better kay di man siya GODLY .

Yes, I AM GAY. I think I've already established that a few times in this forum already but it seems I can't stress it enough for you to grasp.

Now you lost me na karon . I know you are GAY . I accept that you are GAY . I love you being GAY . Whats in it for me to GRASP you being GAY ?

What you don't seem to understand is that my sexual preference is in no way clouding my judgment about your God. And I believe the word I used was HOMOPHOBIC.

You are right .. that is my bad . I was pertainig HOMOPHOBIC for the word RACIST . ANyways , whats your basis on GOD being HOMOPHOBIC ? How did you know ? Did HE talked to you ?

Ah... I see. Feeling safe aren't we?

NO . That is feeling SARCASTIC .

I beg to differ. It's called describing a fictional character according to it's source. You read novel and movie reviews I hope?

Hehehe .... you are indeed very COLORFUL ... seriously we'll put it this way , ok GOD is a fictional character and the source is the BIBLE , why are the ratings so negative ? Is it a personal thing or being a critic just because dont agree with HIM because it crossess your IDEALS ?

Why thank you! I'm glad you think so. Too bad he doesn't exist for me to thank him.

Everyone I can think are .. so are all the UGLY PEOPLE you thought of , calledl for in your whole life . We are al beautiful , made by GOD in HIS image and likeness .

Huh? lol... I rest my case.

Why ? Scared asscociating your SEXUAL PREFERENCE with GOD ?

[ej___]

i was merely putting myself on a believers shoes.
you assume too much.

you assume i was a satanist...sorry i'm not. . .
i dont acknowledge christ the same way most people do, christ to you as a god is not same as mine. simply saying, i'm not against christ per se, its the "idea" of what they want us chirst should be i highly disagree.
besides, i'm not your typical atheist....medyo misotheist ako.

Ok, let us have this WIKIPEDIA definition about your belief. At least you will know why i am assuming too much.
In case you don't know about your belief. Here it is:

"Misotheism-greek (μίσος miso-hate, theism- of God, from Greek Θεός theos)-literally hatred of God or gods.

Misotheism in human history as expressed in a hatred of God or Gods and/or a rejection of creation. Groups espousing a hatred of religion could also be called misotheists."




Very appealing belief ey?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

you assume i was a satanist...sorry i'm not.

No I never ASSUMED . I know the difference of ANTI CHRIST and SATANIST .

i dont acknowledge christ the same way most people do, christ to you as a god is not same as mine. simply saying, i'm not against christ per se, its the "idea" of what they want us chirst should be i highly disagree.

Then it CONTRADICTS your HANDLE which is not my business nor of any importance of who you really are . But that is the reason of how my question started . I have to base something so I can put a foundation in there for discussion purposes that intrigues me .

besides, i'm not your typical atheist....medyo misotheist ako.

Ok .

our gay friend here already mentioned:What makes you think I became an atheist because I'm gay? Hell I'd be an atheist if I was straight.

That would be another discussion why he became an ATHEIST ? Logically ATHEIST is by birth , if convert into being an ATHEIST and you believed something of a god bisan unsa na siya prior makes you not a real ATHEIST but a WANNABE ATHEIST because you chose to but deep inside , you know GOD existed bisan di ka mo tuo niya .

your idea that all gays(even the good ones) all deserves to burn in hell

I never said that . What I said was what our GAY FRIEND here is trying to express his rage on GOD based on what the CHURCH and the BIBLE said towards GAY PEOPLE . How did she este he know ? As ive said .. nakastorya nimo si GOD and HE personally said your hamis na alagang kamay na kutis will rot and burn in HELL ? I dont think so ..

is the the equivalent of a
fundie saying: all people with tatoos(nice tatoo btw, kick ass) deserve to burn in hell...then tells you a passage about the body is your temple yada yada. how would you feel?

If that is a general question ... CHRISTIANS will be mad . If its a personal question , I DONT GIVE HOOT ! I dont rely on my church but thru my relationship and faith with GOD thru my religion .

[Chrysley]

That is based on your comments . Of course how did you know GOD doesnt like you ? You based it sa CHURCH saying that GOD doesnt like you because of your sexual preference .That made you DISLIKE GOD because you DISLIKE the church . Did I assumed that ? No , it was you who clearly said that GOD is HOMOPHOBIC .

You mean based on twisting my comments. Oh I said your God doesn't like me? Where did I ever say that? When did I ever involve my sexual preference into this conversation? I believe it was you who brought it up. And you think I dislike the Church because they don't approve of my sexuality? Please, I don't care what they think in the first place. Yes, I said God was HOMOPHOBIC. And I said that with detachment from my sexual preference. If I was straight, I still would've said the same. Get that into your nugget.

You are indeed lost because acceptance of the BIBLE denied by your decision and not whats in your heart . It is clear that you prefer something not GODLY because ADAM and STEVE or ADAM and EVE issues will hit the mark as a GOD believer . So I pick the words DARWIN and DINOSAURS to make you feel better kay di man siya GODLY .

Come again? lol... What do you know what's in my heart? lol...

Now you lost me na karon . I know you are GAY . I accept that you are GAY . I love you being GAY . Whats in it for me to GRASP you being GAY ?

Really? Your last statement, seemed to say otherwise. You keep on having the notion that every argument I make is based on a fallacy that I resent your God because he dislikes gay people. No, If you had taken account all the other adjectives that I used, you will find that HOMOPHOBIC was of least bit importance than any of the other adjectives. Yet you assumed quickly, didn't you?

You are right .. that is my bad . I was pertainig HOMOPHOBIC for the word RACIST . ANyways , whats your basis on GOD being HOMOPHOBIC ? How did you know ? Did HE talked to you ?

You really shouldn't have to ask. Tell me, do you have any source that says otherwise? No? Didn't think so.

NO . That is feeling SARCASTIC .

It looked more like a mock to me than sarcasm. Perhaps you should work on that.

Hehehe .... you are indeed very COLORFUL ... seriously we'll put it this way , ok GOD is a fictional character and the source is the BIBLE , why are the ratings so negative ? Is it a personal thing or being a critic just because dont agree with HIM because it crossess your IDEALS ?

Because any rational being, even the ones detached from their ideals, can clearly pinpoint the cruelties of your God. Your God, seemed to have underestimated man's capacity to think.

Everyone I can think are .. so are all the UGLY PEOPLE you thought of , calledl for in your whole life . We are al beautiful , made by GOD in HIS image and likeness .

Oh I believe we are all beautiful in every single way. You'd be surprised to know I don't have much care about appearances.

Why ? Scared asscociating your SEXUAL PREFERENCE with GOD ?

What's there to be scared of? I don't fear your God. It's your God, you go fear him. Seriously, every time your comments are shoved back in your face, you use the same tactics. Do you ever improvise?

And for the last time, I don't believe in your God, not because I'm gay, but because he doesn't exist. Your assumptions about my fear, anger or rage for your God has no reasonable basis other than the fact that you blame it on my sexual preference. Which is just a weak argument and stereotypical.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

You mean based on twisting my comments. Oh I said your God doesn't like me? Where did I ever say that? When did I ever involve my sexual preference into this conversation? I believe it was you who brought it up. And you think I dislike the Church because they don't approve of my sexuality? Please, I don't care what they think in the first place. Yes, I said God was HOMOPHOBIC. And I said that with detachment from my sexual preference. If I was straight, I still would've said the same. Get that into your nugget.

Too bad when you said that you are GAY and not STAIGHT so its an EXCUSE . The fact is you said that because you are GAY . The moment you said GOD is HOMOPHOBIC ... you already associated yourself with GOD that HE doesnt like you .

Come again? lol... What do you know what's in my heart? lol...

What kind of answer you want ? PINILOSOPO , LITERAL or SWALLOWING BACK WHAT YOU SAID ?

Really? Your last statement, seemed to say otherwise. You keep on having the notion that every argument I make is based on a fallacy that I resent your God because he dislikes gay people. No, If you had taken account all the other adjectives that I used, you will find that HOMOPHOBIC was of least bit importance than any of the other adjectives. Yet you assumed quickly, didn't you?

NO . I only associated it of who you are and it fits perfect . Of course when you said something to GOD and then you are STAIGHT , I will not use the adjective HOMOPHOBIC but something else .

You really shouldn't have to ask. Tell me, do you have any source that says otherwise? No? Didn't think so.

You are the source for labeling GOD as such . I never reacted , you just amused me .

It looked more like a mock to me than sarcasm. Perhaps you should work on that.

To each his own . I delievered it SARCASTICALLY , you took it MOCKINGLY .

Because any rational being, even the ones detached from their ideals, can clearly pinpoint the cruelties of your God. Your God, seemed to have underestimated man's capacity to think.

Do I need to engage further ? Indeed SEEM is the perfect word because MAN can only ASSUME .

Oh I believe we are all beautiful in every single way. You'd be surprised to know I don't have much care about appearances.

Yehey !

What's there to be scared of? I don't fear your God.

FEAR and SCARED is different .

It's your God, you go fear him.

Why would I fear someone I love ?

Seriously, every time your comments are shoved back in your face, you use the same tactics. Do you ever improvise?

Shoved back in my face ? What tactics ? Are even arguing or make it more civilized debating ? I dont think so , we are exchanging ideas bisan conflict . trust me , I learn something from you and so are you learning new things from me .

[Chrysley]

Too bad when you said that you are GAY and not STAIGHT so its an EXCUSE . The fact is you said that because you are GAY . The moment you said GOD is HOMOPHOBIC ... you already associated yourself with GOD that HE doesnt like you .

Once again, I said that with detachment from my sexual preference. The keyword is detachment. DETACHMENT.

What kind of answer you want ? PINILOSOPO , LITERAL or SWALLOWING BACK WHAT YOU SAID ?

Hit me with anything you got.

NO . I only associated it of who you are and it fits perfect . Of course when you said something to GOD and then you are STAIGHT , I will not use the adjective HOMOPHOBIC but something else .

Bingo! And there goes the horrible truth... stereotypical and simple-minded.

A man's girlfriend was killed. The man is an ex-convict. Therefore, he must have killed his girlfriend. Way to go wise guy! :mrgreen:

You are the source for labeling GOD as such . I never reacted , you just amused me .

Thanks honey! You amuse me too.

Do I need to engage further ? Indeed SEEM is the perfect word because MAN can only ASSUME .

Doesn't make the statement any less plausible.

FEAR and SCARED is different .

Yeah I know dear. And your point is?

Why would I fear someone I love ?

Good question. And back to my post that started it all...

Shoved back in my face ? What tactics ? Are even arguing or make it more civilized debating ? I dont think so , we are exchanging ideas bisan conflict . trust me , I learn something from you and so are you learning new things from me .

I doubt that. I've been trying to negate your assumptions concerning my belief and sexual preference, but you just keep on coming right back with precisely the same assumptions.

Once again, I don't believe in your God, not because I'm gay, but because he doesn't exist. Your assumptions about my fear, anger or rage for your God has no reasonable basis other than the fact that you blame it on my sexual preference. Which is just a simpleton's weak and stereotypical argument.

[Knight Crawler]

yes yes yes kay everytime na mag pray ko nya basta sayon lang daw kaau buhaton mahatag daun nya.........honest pa

[anti-christ]

@springfield

Logically ATHEIST is by birth , if convert into being an ATHEIST and you believed something of a god bisan unsa na siya prior makes you not a real ATHEIST but a WANNABE ATHEIST because you chose to but deep inside , you know GOD existed bisan di ka mo tuo niya .

errrrr, what!?
is there such thing as "i was born christian/muslim/atheist/etc"....raised probably.

there are severla types of atheist my friend. some atheist are ex-christians you know, "deconversion".hehe

speaking of free will...

christian religions imitate this practice of so called freewill

they make you protestants, catholics etc. even when you are still incapable of choosing, sometimes even forced to believe in order to "fit" in society...

cant you guys see the stupidity of religion? they say the works of God is incomprehensible, and yet they try to imitate

its pretty d@rn clear

If that is a general question ... CHRISTIANS will be mad . If its a personal question , I DONT GIVE HOOT ! I dont rely on my church but thru my relationship and faith with GOD thru my religion .

fundies are christians too.hehe
*they already did that to a friend of mine. and i agree with you...i dont give a *bleep

[mr.ho_chia2]

yes yes yes kay everytime na mag pray ko nya basta sayon lang daw kaau buhaton mahatag daun nya.........honest pa

kanindot sa. ako pud.

[burn]

believe kaau