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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    maybe this, maybe that, or pwede sad... you have a lot of presumptions, often do you speak of creationism but rational dilemmas often causes you to switch to a new "enhanced" version of your presumptions, which speaks to me that you are not sure, much like me but with a god in the picture..
    why not?
    anyways,my presumptions do not suggest that i am shifting from one idea to another as i never absolutely concluded anything about the origin of the universe in physical or scientific terms.
    instead, i am laying over the possibilities..

    yes i am like you and everyone else in the planet who do not know how exactly the universe began in scientific terms..simply because wa pa jud nato natugkad tanan scientifically..

    i am sure that there is God,what i am not sure of is how God exactly started creation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    did not intend?.. isn't it very obvious that the author did not know?..
    precisely, the author knew nothing about cosmological evolution, that's why the genesis creation accounts should not carry the burden of scientific inconsistencies for the reason that it wasn't presented as something scientific in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    yes not a science book, exactly.. but the priests, nuns and cathecists do not seem to believe so,.
    some folks tend to see it that way but it's never dogmatic..although some actually makes sense.
    some biblical accounts though not presented in a scientific manner can be associated with recent scientific facts..

    for examples click this link: Science and the Bible

    of course, all could boil down to one's perspective..but the point is we can't blame if people would qoute biblical consistencies with science.
    personally, i don't agree with a couple or more examples on the link but like i said earlier some actually makes sense. hehe

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    Nothing better in your attempts to make you an intelligent person ?

    Anything coming from you will be dealt with something coming from me. CHAROT.

    Go test the waters young man.
    Last edited by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40; 08-20-2014 at 06:51 PM.

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    next question ta guys and gals.

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    For the newcomers, trolls , confused , atheist , anti Christ , anti Catholic etc .

    Keep this thread for your question/s and someone will answer it. After it has been answered, go on with the a new one or do not attempt to create a discussion that you do not agree with it. Post it somewhere or make a new thread why you do not agree with it as long as no similar thread existed.

    Do not make any statements outside the question and answer, there is a thread for it why you do not agree with Roman Catholics, avoid posting pictures that has nothing to do with the thread.

    I hope I am clear this time. I will instantly mute violators . Thank you.
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    Thank God naa na jud tawn polis siguro naman ma maintain na ang PEace & Order dri.
    Well done bossing springy

    Para sa mga Romano Katoliko parehas nako , ni alangkoy e share gamay nga gen.info.
    Just FYI!
    This is related to the HOLY MASS

    Last edited by miramax; 08-20-2014 at 07:31 PM.

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    I'm Happy naa nani sa watchlist ang thread, else puro nalang negative ang na post sa thread. Ubay2x rba ang mga RC diri so daghan pd ma offend mka basa.
    Anyway my questions for the RC church.

    Dba before kun mo dagkot ta sa Kandila ug mo hulog ta ug 50c means a donor or halad?
    Krun kay prsyo na lagi sa kandila ilang tawag. Mostly mga tawo ky mo ingon na tag P1 or P2 ang kandila kda dagkot.
    Dba mao lain man ang reason out nila sauna? Kinsa nka heard ani pag 80's na gi rasonan ug ig-ana ?
    Mao mana ang gi reason out sauna gud sa katong nag bantay nako before ug gi tudlo na. Na if mo dagkot ta ky mo halad ug
    25c or 50c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kyme View Post
    I'm Happy naa nani sa watchlist ang thread, else puro nalang negative ang na post sa thread. Ubay2x rba ang mga RC diri so daghan pd ma offend mka basa.
    Anyway my questions for the RC church.

    Dba before kun mo dagkot ta sa Kandila ug mo hulog ta ug 50c means a donor or halad?
    Krun kay prsyo na lagi sa kandila ilang tawag. Mostly mga tawo ky mo ingon na tag P1 or P2 ang kandila kda dagkot.
    Dba mao lain man ang reason out nila sauna? Kinsa nka heard ani pag 80's na gi rasonan ug ig-ana ?
    Mao mana ang gi reason out sauna gud sa katong nag bantay nako before ug gi tudlo na. Na if mo dagkot ta ky mo halad ug
    25c or 50c.
    Sir, akong tubag sa imong pangutana base sakong nakat-onan sa akong pagka ROmano Katoliko

    1. Dba before kun mo dagkot ta sa Kandila ug mo hulog ta ug 50c means a donor or halad?
    A.
    That can be considered as a form of tithe or halad, dili donor.
    Actually , mao nay edge sa RC religion kay wala tah obligaha paghulog sa sibot; palit kandila, share sa portion sa atong income.
    Naa ra jud nah nato in what form we can show /express in return to God ALmighty isip pasalamat sa atong mga blessings nadawat.

    2. Dba mao lain man ang reason out nila sauna? Kinsa nka heard ani pag 80's na gi rasonan ug ig-ana ?
    Mao mana ang gi reason out sauna gud sa katong nag bantay nako before ug gi tudlo na. Na if mo dagkot ta ky mo halad ug
    25c or 50c

    A.
    If naa man gani nakabutang presyo ex. 5 pesos per candle , ang explanation sa amoa anah it's not literally bayad/presyo kung modagkot ka unless parehas nang mangsinulog dras gawas sa Basilica nga morag gehimo nasab nila source of income, ako personally I am oppose to that idea but ato lang jaffon e respeto as long as wala silay na violate nga rules, or naagrabyado nga taw.
    Ug naa man gani presyo sa kandila kana naas mga simbahan, dili nah maoy kantidad para dunggon sa Ginoo imo pangalyupo, naa jaffon tah freedom to bring our own candles which mao nah ako genabuhat. Mag unsa man sab ug pila kandlila imo paliton/dagkotan unya dili nimo apilan ug kinasingkasing pag-ampo ?
    Pero sa laing bahin kana man sab gud mga kandila sud simbahan gepalit baya sab nas simbahan wala mana ingon nahulog gikan sa langit, kung boot hunahuna-on gamay ra baya kaynang kantidara ekumpra gani sa ubang relihiyon , bilib gani ko kay mo comply jud ila mga followers.
    Mao sad hino-on nay rason dri sa among cathedral gehunong na ang mga kandila mismo sa simbahan, kung nahan kah magdagkot u have to bring/secure ur own which is quite more costly compared to the ones we used to get from the church , samotan pah jud nihit kaayo pangita-on tawn dri ang white candle kasagaran man gud kana mga colored scented /aromatic candles. Since lageh , maski gamay kantidad himo-an man isyu sa mga enemies of the church.

    BTW, ato gehapon e welcome ang opinyon/kaalaman sa ubang mga purong Romano Katoliko , para mas lapad atong kaantiguhan.
    Last edited by miramax; 08-20-2014 at 08:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miramax View Post
    Sir, akong tubag sa imong pangutana base sakong nakat-onan sa akong pagka ROmano Katoliko

    1. Dba before kun mo dagkot ta sa Kandila ug mo hulog ta ug 50c means a donor or halad?
    A.
    That can be considered as a form of tithe or halad, dili donor.
    Actually , mao nay edge sa RC religion kay wala tah obligaha paghulog sa sibot; palit kandila, share sa portion sa atong income.
    Naa ra jud nah nato in what form we can show /express in return to God ALmighty isip pasalamat sa atong mga blessings nadawat.

    2. Dba mao lain man ang reason out nila sauna? Kinsa nka heard ani pag 80's na gi rasonan ug ig-ana ?
    Mao mana ang gi reason out sauna gud sa katong nag bantay nako before ug gi tudlo na. Na if mo dagkot ta ky mo halad ug
    25c or 50c

    A.
    If naa man gani nakabutang presyo ex. 5 pesos per candle , ang explanation sa amoa anah it's not literally bayad/presyo kung modagkot ka unless parehas nang mangsinulog dras gawas sa Basilica nga morag gehimo nasab nila source of income, ako personally I am oppose to that idea but ato lang jaffon e respeto as long as wala silay na violate nga rules, or naagrabyado nga taw.
    Ug naa man gani presyo sa kandila kana naas mga simbahan, dili nah maoy kantidad para dunggon sa Ginoo imo pangalyupo, naa jaffon tah freedom to bring our own candles which mao nah ako genabuhat. Mag unsa man sab ug pila kandlila imo paliton/dagkotan unya dili nimo apilan ug kinasingkasing pag-ampo ?
    Pero sa laing bahin kana man sab gud mga kandila sud simbahan gepalit baya sab nas simbahan wala mana ingon nahulog gikan sa langit, kung boot hunahuna-on gamay ra baya kaynang kantidara ekumpra gani sa ubang relihiyon , bilib gani ko kay mo comply jud ila mga followers.
    Mao sad hino-on nay rason dri sa among cathedral gehunong na ang mga kandila mismo sa simbahan, kung nahan kah magdagkot u have to bring/secure ur own which is quite more costly compared to the ones we used to get from the church , samotan pah jud nihit kaayo pangita-on tawn dri ang white candle kasagaran man gud kana mga colored scented /aromatic candles. Since lageh , maski gamay kantidad himo-an man isyu sa mga enemies of the church.

    BTW, ato gehapon e welcome ang opinyon/kaalaman sa ubang mga purong Romano Katoliko , para mas lapad atong kaantiguhan.

    Hehhee
    This is a good answer for everybody especially sa mga new youth na lain ug thinking o na confuse sa pag hulog ug sinsilyo sa pag dagkot.

    Ok next question for RC church.
    Diha sa St.Nino. Knsa nka bantay na inag after sa mass kay naay kalit mo sugat ug taoran ka ug Sto.Nino na pin and mamugos rba usahay ila itaod daan una mkig storya, then mangayo rba after.
    Naa ni cla usahay sa Saturday and Friday, krun minus nalang. Pero knsa nka bantay ani before. Murag ang church kay d man cgro aware ato na activity. Ma-ikog rba ta usahay mo storya ky mga tigulang ug mag uniform ug puti, something they are a part of the community sa simbahan.
    Kinsa nka experience ani before na mo sugat ug taoran mo ug kalit before makig storya nimo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kyme View Post
    Hehhee
    This is a good answer for everybody especially sa mga new youth na lain ug thinking o na confuse sa pag hulog ug sinsilyo sa pag dagkot.

    Ok next question for RC church.
    Diha sa St.Nino. Knsa nka bantay na inag after sa mass kay naay kalit mo sugat ug taoran ka ug Sto.Nino na pin and mamugos rba usahay ila itaod daan una mkig storya, then mangayo rba after.
    Naa ni cla usahay sa Saturday and Friday, krun minus nalang. Pero knsa nka bantay ani before. Murag ang church kay d man cgro aware ato na activity. Ma-ikog rba ta usahay mo storya ky mga tigulang ug mag uniform ug puti, something they are a part of the community sa simbahan.
    Kinsa nka experience ani before na mo sugat ug taoran mo ug kalit before makig storya nimo.

    Salamat sir nga imo naapreciate akong tubag.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong sir, pero sa akong pagsabot mao neh imong pangutana?

    Kinsa nka experience ani before na mo sugat ug taoran mo ug kalit before makig storya nimo


    A.
    Yes, ako mismo first-hand naka experience , sa gamay pakong bata mohilak jud ko basta taod2oran ko anah naay arpirel.
    Ako sab , mudra kay d man sha motoo ana though devout RC akong pamilya, tarungon man namo balibad.Pero akong naobserbaran uban , iwakle jud baya.
    Mao rah nah sila grupoha sa mangsinulog, it's more on commercialism nah and The Church (Basilica Clerics) has got nothin to do with it.
    I will reiterate, that as long as they haven't done sumtn that is quite offensive or violate any rules , go beyond the church norms, crossed the lines. Gerespeto jaffon nah sila.
    As you may have noticed also, wala may usa anah nila nag-iningon anah sulod sa simbahan, di bah?
    Last edited by miramax; 08-20-2014 at 08:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miramax View Post
    Salamat sir nga imo naapreciate akong tubag.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong sir, pero sa akong pagsabot mao neh imong pangutana?

    Kinsa nka experience ani before na mo sugat ug taoran mo ug kalit before makig storya nimo


    A.
    Yes, ako mismo first-hand naka experience , sa gamay pakong bata mohilak jud ko basta taod2oran ko anah naay arpirel.
    Ako sab , mudra kay d man sha motoo ana though devout RC akong pamilya, tarungon man namo balibad.Pero akong naobserbaran uban , iwakle jud baya.
    Mao rah nah sila grupoha sa mangsinulog, it's more on commercialism nah and The Church (Basilica Clerics) has got nothin to do with it. I will reiterate, that as long as they have done sumtn that is quite offensive or violate any rules . Gerespeto jaffon nah sila.
    As you may have noticed also, wala may usa anah nila nag-iningon anah sulod sa simbahan, di bah?
    No no no wait hahaha...
    Lain akong gi pasabot. I mean knsa nka suyway na after sa mass, inag gawas ninyo sugaton mo ug tiguwang na mag eyeglasses and mostly mag white ni cla. Taoran ka nila ug PIN then after mangayo dayun ug P30. Mahibong lang ka na gi gunitan ka ug kalit o go alihan then gi taoran ug pin, and then d pa jd magpa balibad. Taoran ka ug pin then after mangayo nmo ug P20 - P30. Dependi sa design sa Pin. Kapila nako na sugat ana nla sauna.
    Usahay mag wla2x ni cla. Pero mo kalit lang tunga after a weeks bah to.

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