WITCHES and WARLOCKS...are they the minions of the Devil?

[BushidoFMA]

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-bushido

this is getting silly.hehehe
ah so youvent heard of that? that they do formed circles and do rituals.tsk tsk. These wanna bes think highly of themselves just because they do formed covens they think that they are very powerful and can manipulate the forces of nature.hehehe

prove it baby yeah!-austin powers
eh iisang practioner lang nag reveal sa atin dito. minura nyo pa. and we're supposed to believe your words over theirs....not really messing with you, but i find no substance from you posts.
heck, even toddlers draw circles...they have rituals too.
you generalize too much...these are people too you know. they do come in variety.


@Burn_my_eyes

I think you dont know how to follow an argument. You just yap there w/o thinking clearly and you are taking my whole statement out of its meaning.

a child can draw a circle and they have their own rituals too. can you pls enumerate them?
a folklore has witchcraft. what?
austin powers. prove what?


psst if you are not a practitioner of witchcraft , obviously you are not, pls do shut your mouth because your ignorance are sprouting out.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

tagalig ka pala tulisan, sabagay kawatan man unta na sa bisaya.

sus wako na kig debate nimo, ako lang ka gpasabot sa imong position kay sige man kag yawyaw nga wala proof nga naay GOD kay matud pa daghan philosopher ug scientist nga ni supporta anang line of thought nimo. you need absolute proof, well sad to say even the best of the atheist can't even disprove the existence of GOD. in effect you are not sure of your position at all.

and i am not trying to recruit you nor anyone, i am just merely stating my 2 cents.

Burden of proof is not on me, why would i prove it to you? your mind is closed on these matters right? but open to all others. what's the use? better shake off the dust from my foot and off i go.

[tulisan666]

you need absolute proof, well sad to say even the best of the atheist can't even disprove the existence of GOD.

if you cant disprove the bible god, you cant disprove any god for that matter. greek to roman to any gods.
do you know what projection means Mr.Ho...
Burden of proof is not on me, why would i prove it to you? your mind is closed on these matters right? but open to all others. what's the use?

obviously, you dont know debate basics...here's to spoonfeeding 101
Burden of Proof in Law and Debate:The burden of proof is a concept also employed in debating, where the standard principle is that the side that "takes the affirmative" must shoulder the burden of proof. In other words, the side in a formal debate that argues that you should believe or do something must produce reasons why.

anyway no debate man dagway. way blema.

[burn_my_eyes]

bushido++
a child can draw a circle and they have their own rituals too. can you pls enumerate them?
a folklore has witchcraft. what?

Ritualistic behavior and habits are common in early childhood, and are given stylized expression in nursery rhymes and children's games in many cultures. Ritualistic behavior is characterized by repetitive elements, and by adherence to rules, imposed by the child on his own behavior and on the behavior of others. Ritual behavior in a toddler's normative development read more on growth and development

psst if you are not a practitioner of witchcraft , obviously you are not, pls do shut your mouth because your ignorance are sprouting out.

right back at you! hahaha
i was just commenting on your "funny" posts

@Mr.Ho
Burden of proof is not on me, why would i prove it to you? your mind is closed on these matters right?
thats projection right over there.hehehe

[Mr.Ho_chia]

i am a nurse by profession. understanding projection is not a problem with me. again you assume you alone knows that. sad to say i don't blame others with my fault. I am not ashame to admit that i am indeed a sinner, with lots and lots of fault, i don't blame them to someone else, because each one of us is accountable to our action/s. did i satisfy your curiosity tulisan?

did i argue for you to believe in my GOD? tsk tsk tsk, too much assumptions, arrogant feeling superior giving me lectures in debates that i don't even intend to do. why should i prove it to you? why do i care? if you don't want to believe in GOD and the hell, what is it to me?

I am just merely stating my two cents. and for you to claim you have the absolute foundation of what to me a very shaky ground, prove it to yourself. convince yourself more that what you have will certainly bring you to where you want to go. go ahead, wallow more on that thought and convince yourself more.

thanks for your lecture, go learn it yourself, coz real life is not about chance and debates, people make mistakes, regrets and things are done that can never be undone. reality bites. stop dreaming and hoping for all the absolute reasons that can never be yours. until that very time. go pick your choice and stand by it. don't envy it a bit.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

my mind is close thats absolute.

your mind is close that's projection.

hahaha, very convenient, according to whose perspective then? i should stop lest my eyes become sored and puss gonna come out of it. better burn my sored eyes lest i go to hell.

[tulisan666]

so here's a recap
Mr.Ho sez
said:mere assumption, do not generalized things. don't be quick on conclusions and hold that pointing finger.

yet you generalize witches and atheists:These people are very clear in all their leanings, they are open to everything and anything but not to the Christian GOD, and I don't want to know why anymore, coz i don't care, its there life. not mine. and i don't envy it a bit.

The manner by which they speak their minds, talk about their persons, fault finder is the very least i could describe most. full of rage, hate and angered against the GOD of the bible. they all have one voice in unison they speak, they present themselves as a version or a modified one yet they speak the same language, all is welcome, all is ok but not to the GOD of the jews and gentiles. and why is it? well, nothing i say will change it, but to the others who might have interest on this thread you may be able to spot the difference, by their names and their writings they claim one thing yet do the other.

they are not affected by these dieties because to them their not true, a figment of imagination but to the GOD of HOST, the Almighty one, they shout their lungs out, always condemning and blasphemous in their ways. You know why, because deep down in their hearts they are scared to the fact that it could be true, they want to assure themselves that it ain't and continue the lives they are living now. They seek assurance in their number, they think the more people see their point the stronger they become and the more truthful they think they are. sad to say those assurance/s they so desire and aspire to be sufficient can never be enough.

you generalize these people as your enemies just because they dont fall under your beliefs
pa tanong-tanong ka pa:did i argue for you to believe in my GOD?
but it doesn't mean i want to burn them all because i happen to share the views of fanatics in the past time.

this may sound funny, just because i share some sentiments over these people you blatantly label me as a witch/wannabe...
and you claim that, your fanatical views does not make you a fanatic

you have the nerve to put words in my mouth that:but for the blasphemous one, well 2 things, either they are right and no time to celebrate their victories because after death nothing follows. or be confronted with the truth that the GOD of host that they so deny, belittle, insult, mock and spit on is indeed a great and living GOD

check my posts again, you assume too much. spit!? yeah right, you wish i said those words just to make you look good. thats so uncool.

ako lang ka gpasabot sa imong position kay sige man kag yawyaw nga wala proof nga naay GOD kay matud pa daghan philosopher ug scientist nga ni supporta anang line of thought nimo. you need absolute proof, well sad to say even the best of the atheist can't even disprove the existence of GOD. in effect you are not sure of your position at all.

again you assume too much. this was not supposed to be about your god in the first place. you dragged him with you.hehehe
i did mention:so i guess i'll make it clearer,it's NOT your Bible God. smiley
*i'm sure you're gonna play the "if it's not bible God, then its the devil" card...suit yourself.

my mind is close thats absolute
of course it is, you did mention this:to me i do, i don't want to chant things i don't understand, don't want powers i don't know the source, etc. so, would you want me to be like you, force me to stand by your point? don't think so. and so what, if I care? i am not forcing you either to embrace what i believe in.

as for projection:psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes to others one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the ego recognize them.

have a nice day

[Mr.Ho_chia]

Again another show of arrogance from a fanatic atheist who by himself cannot even point to a concrete and solid evidence of what he stands for. instead trying to show off by copying some definition from a psychiatric book. trying to intellectualize a dissociative behavior, denial in almost all aspect and boy how he attempts to lecture me with defense mechanism.

go ahead convince yourself more. an open mind indeed? ai sus ayaw nalang ta ani. matog ta oi.

[tulisan666]

Mr.Hoe sezzz
Again another show of arrogance from a fanatic atheist who by himself cannot even point to a concrete and solid evidence of what he stands for
wow, naman i did mention this fom my posts: thats pretty much where i stand really.
uhmm, they existed way before Jesus. their belief does not fall under the Christian umbrella...but that does not also mean they are of evil nature automatically either
i have nothing against wiccan, witches, warlocks...
i may not know much about their practices, but as for its history...what the church did to them(wiccans) are just inhuman.

so far, parang dito nag start ang pagiging self righteous mo eh.
looks like your the one in denial, with regards to obvious church mistakes.

toodles

[Mr.Ho_chia]

whatever the church did, be it groups of christians and all other sect of the Judeo- christian religion. it doesn't speak about the LORD GOD almighty.

As i was trying to point out to you in another thread, you are too focus on individuals or groups that seems to have authority over a certain church and that their humanly mistakes and wrong doings you attribute to the LORD. well, sorry to say that not all CHRISTIANS are that.

just the same with the muslims in the east, although some of their leaders and some religious leaders are calling for terrorism as an act of jeihad, it doen't make the entire muslim community terrorist.

you see wrong actions of some/ or group of some especially in authority dose not necessarily speak of the entire body. that goes with the christians too. sad to say you are quick to judge the christians and slow with the others, precisely because you are not yet immerse in their system, give your self time and go shopping to all religion their is, or even your atheist basic foundation and you'll see what big hole indeed, each way you go.