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  1. #8971

    Kining debate about religion kinsa jud ang sakto ug nagtudlo sa tinood mura rana ug ingon ani...

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    Parable of the Blind Men and the Elephant
    A number of disciples went to the Buddha and said, "Sir, there are living here in Savatthi many wandering hermits and scholars who indulge in constant dispute, some saying that the world is infinite and eternal and others that it is finite and not eternal, some saying that the soul dies with the body and others that it lives on forever, and so forth. What, Sir, would you say concerning them?"

    The Buddha answered, "Once upon a time there was a certain raja who called to his servant and said, 'Come, good fellow, go and gather together in one place all the men of Savatthi who were born blind... and show them an elephant.' 'Very good, sire,' replied the servant, and he did as he was told. He said to the blind men assembled there, 'Here is an elephant,' and to one man he presented the head of the elephant, to another its ears, to another a tusk, to another the trunk, the foot, back, tail, and tuft of the tail, saying to each one that that was the elephant.

    "When the blind men had felt the elephant, the raja went to each of them and said to each, 'Well, blind man, have you seen the elephant? Tell me, what sort of thing is an elephant?'

    "Thereupon the men who were presented with the head answered, 'Sire, an elephant is like a pot.' And the men who had observed the ear replied, 'An elephant is like a winnowing basket.' Those who had been presented with a tusk said it was a ploughshare. Those who knew only the trunk said it was a plough; others said the body was a grainery; the foot, a pillar; the back, a mortar; the tail, a pestle, the tuft of the tail, a brush.

    "Then they began to quarrel, shouting, 'Yes it is!' 'No, it is not!' 'An elephant is not that!' 'Yes, it's like that!' and so on, till they came to blows over the matter.

    "Brethren, the raja was delighted with the scene.

    "Just so are these preachers and scholars holding various views blind and unseeing.... In their ignorance they are by nature quarrelsome, wrangling, and disputatious, each maintaining reality is thus and thus."

    Then the Exalted One rendered this meaning by uttering this verse of uplift,

    O how they cling and wrangle, some who claim
    For preacher and monk the honored name!
    For, quarreling, each to his view they cling.
    Such folk see only one side of a thing.
    Jainism and Buddhism. Udana 68-69:
    Parable of the Blind Men and the Elephant

  2. #8972
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kyme View Post
    No. I was thinking na ang Church mismo unta ang mo organize and encourage some public schools and offer a free ride to the church for the mass schedule instead unta. I mean not necessarily students would attend, seems naa naman jd lain2x religion ni exist.
    Ang kato lang pra sa mga Roman Catholic students na mo coordinate sa mass.
    It would be a big blessings dba if mo offer pd ang Church ug free ride pra sa mga Students in the public either kda friday bah run for Children’s mass etc; seems krun kay naa naman jd income run ang Churches from donations and offers from wedding etc. So maybe possible ma buhat pd nila ang offer. hehe Pero anyway kato lang sa mga Catholics pupils sa public.
    same ra gihapon na, there should not be a regular interruption sa tym sa student that's alloted for studies, okay ra special occassions lang or kanang sa weekend.. nkasulod nanang ilang Katekismo on a regular basis sa mga public schools, it's best nga dili nalang pun-an because otherwise it would amount to doctrination already,.. im not saying it should not be, im just saying that scholastic community is best left alone.. anyway kong ganahan jd nato pasimbahon atong mga bata nganu gud tawng dili..

  3. #8973
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kyme View Post
    I was thinking too, hope naa sad pang Children mass na tanan unta mga bata na nag school sa public kay naa clay special mass every weekly or some times sa Sunday. Kay para pd naa sad unta mass for children. Naa na bana schedule krun sa mga Church ?

    bawal na siya kay daghan mang rapist nga pari..

  4. #8974
    Quote Originally Posted by Forster View Post
    wow mao ba? brayta oi

    Cge, dili man kaha ka mu tuo ug theory of evolution diba? so dili ka mu tuo sa theory that modern humans came from apes millions of years ago.

    sa imung "pag tuo" (kuno) asa diay gikan ang mga modern humans? can you explain step by step?
    Did i INDICATE anything in my Post that I agree or Disagree with EVOLUTION?
    I just Post that as an EXAMPLE of How Blind are you with your belief nya makig debate na nuon ka sa Example nga di man na ang POINT. hehe

    Your Reading Comprehension is in a SAD State of AFFAIR... hehe

    so You are a Blind Follower, Right?

  5. #8975
    Quote Originally Posted by fulashay View Post
    the church has man-made rules that are somewhat irrational or mucontradict sa ato own teachings. mao jud na ako gikalibogan.
    Own teachings? Imuhang teachings?

  6. #8976
    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    My God is a God of love.. slow to anger

    magbugalbugal ka.. it will come back to you

    for He is a just God.. He will give you

    what is just for you!

    you will bear sons just like the photo you uploaded

    mark my words.. it will come with your first born

    then your heart will throb in pain and sorrow

    for you have laughed with mockery at my God
    This is very disappointing to come from a person under the religion of love.

    Bsag unsaon kog insulto d giud ko mutubag like in ani

    Usa rapod kas nagdaot sa ngalan sa inyong relihiyon
    Last edited by pakinimo; 08-18-2014 at 12:25 PM.

  7. #8977
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Did i INDICATE anything in my Post that I agree or Disagree with EVOLUTION?
    I just Post that as an EXAMPLE of How Blind are you with your belief nya makig debate na nuon ka sa Example nga di man na ang POINT. hehe

    Your Reading Comprehension is in a SAD State of AFFAIR... hehe

    so You are a Blind Follower, Right?
    Naa napud nang pa english english nimo, wrong grammar napud ka, pag puyo diha oi. ka bugo nimo

    Kalimot naka ani?

    What Evolution? From APE to MAN? LOL

    Did you even Have DATA on that? Did YOU Do some Experimentation to Prove that? OR YOU JUST READ it FROM Internet.. You JUST COPY the IDEA from OTHER PEOPLES WORK THEN you COPIED it WITHOUT ANY Verification and SAY - YES ITS THE TRUTH...

    Ug sa BISAYA pa - Ang Idea sa Uban, Ang Theory sa uban tawo IMUNG GILAMOY apil ang ITLOG sa way PAGPANGUTANA...
    https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...-death-45.html

    O wala ka kasabot sa imung sariling post?

  8. #8978
    Gi kataw-an ra sa bugo na uto utong basurang kristiyano na si SioDenz ang theory of evolution, that means mas tuohan pa niya na gi magic magic ra sa iyahang "ginoo" (kuno) ang "pag himo" (kuno) sa mga modern humans kay maoy naka sulat sa ilahang bibliya.

    Now, kamo nay judge kung blind follower ba ni siya o dili.

  9. #8979
    Quote Originally Posted by heartthr0b View Post
    bawal na siya kay daghan mang rapist nga pari..
    Sir, murag dili man sad cgro sila sa kwarto mag mass sir, ug dili pd cgro tanan Priest rapist.

  10. #8980
    Quote Originally Posted by R_Forster View Post
    Naa napud nang pa english english nimo, wrong grammar napud ka, pag puyo diha oi. ka bugo nimo

    Kalimot naka ani?

    O wala ka kasabot sa imung sariling post?
    LOL

    I said I did Not INDICATE nga ni Agree or Disagree so sa akong Gi post nga SPECIFIC reply sa imung previous post. Ang Evolution maoy gihimu nakong Example sa Atung discussion about sa Imung pagka BLIND FOLLOWER..
    Ang TOPIC is ang pagka BLIND Follower nimu nga wa kay IKATUBAG...mao nisimang ka.. hehe

    Mao ra jud nay maabot sa imung paminsar kay wa man kay kaalam bisag sa pagsabot sa PINAKA ka SIMPLE nga argument...

    Kalooy... hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_Forster View Post
    Gi kataw-an ra sa bugo na uto utong basurang kristiyano na si SioDenz ang theory of evolution, that means mas tuohan pa niya na gi magic magic ra sa iyahang "ginoo" (kuno) ang "pag himo" (kuno) sa mga modern humans kay maoy naka sulat sa ilahang bibliya.

    Now, kamo nay judge kung blind follower ba ni siya o dili.
    KUNU, nya ikaw number 1 mugamit sa word nga ACCORDING to... Kay bisag Kugmo wa na Contribute sa iyang Belief kay Puro Copy and Paste kay Blind Follower man sa iyang gi Kopya... hehe

    Mangangkon pa nga WE if mag Hisgot ug Scientific Fact...Wa uroy ka kilati... hehe

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