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  1. #861

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    God gave, it all started because of this and we get to blame for not using our brains. really? if that's the case why call him the omniscient God? so he created something and never knew what consequences might come,what kind of God is that? in the beginning God created the world and humans....ooops...tsk tsk...nasipyat.

    non-sequitor. re-read my question and answer it then after let's proceed to your question.

    bro, try to understand deeper truths about the first verse in the bible and God's eternal plan of salvation. If you have the mind to fathom it, then you'd come to fall on your knees and worship HIM!

    YouTube - ‪Genesis 1 verse 1 - Part 1 - Bereshiyt‬‏


    That is your concept of your god it's because you are blinded from the truth!

  2. #862

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    kong wa pa koy baruganan makig lalis kaha ko nimo? libog man lang ta anang logic nimo bai.
    shifting sand man gud ka...beh, tell us frankly unsa ug kinsa jud imong belief about GOD? unsa may angay nimo ikauwaw anah? para makita jud ang katag bah...

    malingaw man ko anang mga links nimo.
    maayo kay nalingaw ka...ako wala jud koy nakitang truth sa imoha bro, puro lang ka argue bisan wala na sa point! bunga ra sa imong kalibog...

    wa ta kabalo oi, basin a hundred years from now naay mo ingon nga ang Harry Potter nga libro is divinely inspired.
    unswahhhh? mura'g ikaw tingali na bro..

    kanang mga links nimo ba, di mailad ang mga intelligent nga mga tao ana oi. ang madala ra ana kanang mga way lingaw og way otok.
    waahhahha...di madala nga kaklaro na anang inyong occult nga satanic? dili pa madala ang mga tawo anah? aw depende nana kung moapil sila ug pailad sa occult!

    1Tm:4:1: Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    sa bagay it has prophesied naman sad nuon...mao nga pangilad lang mo ug maayo diha. kay kami share ra sad mi sa teachings of Jesus.

    can you validate the integrity of those videos? kaila ka sa mga nagbuhat ana? pero sige lang padayon lang ana kay mao man na imong kalipay way mopogong nimo ana but onta ba maghona hona pod ka ba nga motoo ba kaha ang mga tao ani sa. kong naa man gani kana ra sigorong mga ignoy.
    bro ang content maoy importante...if it coincides with the teachings of the bible, why not accept it? mura man ka ug ignoy nuon...mas nindot gani nang graphics or videos kay mas makasabot jud ang tawo anah!

    YouTube - ‪Is GOD Dead ? ...‬‏

    hehehhe....don't get bothered by it bro. wala mana manglabot sa imoha ang mga videos. If youre really into the occult, then pasabot nga sakitan jud ka sa mga truths about sa imong belief. If dili na sya tinuod, share daw sa imong tinuod about sa occult nimo? mahadlok gihapon ka?

  3. #863

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    What I mean wa kahibalo ug unsa Jud imu Buhaton or unsa imu decision although kabalo siya sa tanan Possiblities, i correct to nko an first Post

    Unsay Sense if kabalo siya unsay Buhaton nimu or unsay decesion if ghatagan ka ug total freedom...?

    Another example is when God spoke about his Commandments, it always starts with the word IF:
    -That if you confess…and believe…you shall be saved (Rom 10:8-11).
    -If you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off (Rom 11:22-23).
    -By which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word (1 Cor 15:1-2).
    -Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith…unless indeed you fail the test (2 Cor 13:5-7).
    -If you stand firm in the Lord (1Thes 3:8-9)

    If he knows unsa jud exactly imu buhaton or unsa imu decision WHY use the Word IF? - Mugamit unta siya sa word nga "WHEN.. you do this" since kabalo nman diay siya unsa imu decision or buhaton.

    Again he knows all the possibilities pero kita ra ghapon mag buot unsa atu buhaton kay naa tay Total freedom.
    well explained bro!
    and one thing also, even God when he created the universe already have in mind the countermeasure should man will disobey him!

    YouTube - ‪Genesis 1 verse 1 - Part 1 - Bereshiyt‬‏

    we are given freedom but only within the boundary of the form that HE allows us to have!

    for example, we cannot exercise our own freedom in the other planets with less gravity. So this means, we don't have freedom to move there like what we do here on earth.

    kinsa may free nga tawo karon nga makabuhat bisan unsa iyang gustoon? let him fly daw if free jud sya...no one! even his mind have limits.

  4. #864

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    @Malic:
    nagbinata lagi ko kay haron makasabot ka, remember doctorate gud ni akong knowledge. nganong abot man ka sa occult book nga imong bible man ang gasulti atong "answer a fool according to his folly" nga akong gi dedicate nimo, mao na akong gi sunod nga advise bai. hehe. wa to sa bible akong gi quote? hahaha, wa gyud diay ka magbasa og bible.

    tawn pud noh? heheh..ai nalang pagbinata kay wala jud ko kakita ug truth lagi sa imoha. Doktorit ka sa imong hunahuna rana! doktor2 hinuon tuo ko. mao bitaw, sige ka pangita ug verse sa bible then i-twist dayon ang meaning not knowing nga para diay sa imoha...diba? you're always professing to be wise, and yet you are fool?

    nganong mo counter man ko nga mo agree man ko anang professing themselves wise they became fools? haha. BUT kana para imo na, fit kaayo na nimo kay ngano, kapila naka nasayop diri og hatag sa mga interpretation sa mga verses. ka daghan na baya,hehe. nya kong pangutanon ka instead ihatag nimo ang imong nasabtan ang imong ihatag mga links man hinoon sa youtube. haha, so kana nga verse para imo na. agree kaayo ko ana no need to give a counter argument.


    hhhahha.....that's from the bible bro! ai pag quote ug verse nga wala ka kasabot. mao ni angay nimo i-ponder. Romans chapter 1.

    ayaw lagi pamogos, haha. sige man kag pamogos oi. di lagi na FOR SALE akong knowledge. wa man ko pul-i. intawn kadali nimo patohoon oi, youtube ra too naka.


    dili mana for sale doktor kay mawagtang man ang power ana kung iyagyag sa public, diba? tell us honestly daw... peace dok.

    youtube plus the word of God doktor, absolutely katuhoan jud! unsa man diay anha ko motuo sa imoha nga hadlok manka moyagyag gani anah? hunong tawn mo ug practice anang satanic doctrines dok oi.

    ako gihapon sundon imo style ha...pag email lang ni Bart Ehrman kong nganong nakasulti siya nga dili reliable ang bible. Natural ila gyud ng daoton haha, pero di gyud ma deny nga daghan errors sa bible gi acknowledge naman na sa mga scholars ambot nganong ikaw sige pa man ka og deny ana, scholar pod sigoro ka.


    aw..sunod2 lang diha! just like you gud, trying hard kayo to suppress the truth! hehhe...normal rana dok nga naa jud modaut but it cannot dent the resolve of the Christians. The more mo magdaut, the more magkafulfill ang prophecies of the bible. For us Christians, solved nana tanan doktor. All we have to do is to tell the truth and spread the gospel.

    M't:24:14: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

    ako ga tudlo og satanic teachings? asa dapit? ga tomo tomo na pod ka, false witnessing ang tawag ana bai, hala repent and believe.


    if mauwaw ka sa imong occult beliefs, then it means it is of darkness! share daw beh....dugay na jud ko sige hagad nimo anah.

    kabalo diay ka onsa ng occult for you to say nga nailad ang mga tao? or imong basis ana is ang bible w/c is unreliable according to scholars.
    whatever you say against the word of God, still you are following satanic doctrines!

    go back to the tower of babel...consider Nimrod!

    salamat kaayo sa imong concern ha but no thanks. kay basing sa atong discussion diri ikaw man ang naay daghan og sayop, labi na sa area sa exegesis,sus daghan kaayo ka og sayop. so dapat onta ikaw ang magmata haron di ka mailad.
    sa imong pagtuo dok, sa akoa sad kay wala jud kay truths nga gi-present! sige lang ka ingon sayop... normal raman nuon na if against ka.

    nagkadogay nagkalobong imong argomento. looy pod baya.
    sa imo ra gihapon nang hunahuna doktor..
    Ang luoy kadtong nangailad ni Lucifer dok! nagtuo sila nga ginoo nasad sila sa ilang kaugalingon...

    sorry dok ha but dili jud nimo ma suppress ang truth bisan unsaon pa ninyo diha ug diskarte!

  5. #865

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    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    There you go again Matt. 7:21-23 - I have no problem with that verse, but that does not mean divinity is not important. Conclusion mo lang yun. Again di mo tinindigan yung punto mo before na si Jesus ay isang tao lang.

    Kung gusto mong mang-akay ng ibang tao sa faith mo, dapat may stand ka na galing sa bible.
    Papaano kung may mag-tanong sayo:

    Ano ba si Jesus, Dios, o Tao?
    Hindi ka pwedeng sumagot na:

    "Hindi na importante yun, ang mahalaga sundin mo ang first and foremost commandment." - sagot yan ng alanganing pastor.

    "Jesus' teaching is more important than his Divinity" - delikado to,, baka ibang klaseng Jesus na yan.

    2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
    so in your "preaching", we should only believe God? Then why the heck are you and every evangelist "preaching"? Dios ba kayo? Mas delikado yata "teaching" mo. Alanganin? Anong alanganin jan? So what if Jesus was human or not? Does that save you? READ CAREFULLY before making assumptions. Ok ka lang sa verse? You can say all you want that Jesus is God, it won't save you. It's just not enough. Don't you get it? Do Jesus' instructions, he is pleased with you. That's what the verse I presented MEANS logically, without twisting it in and out. Calling him "Lord" AINT enough. Sino alanganin ngayon? Kawaykaway nlng po.

    And regarding whether Jesus is God or not, he AINT God. He said it specifically.

    "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape." John 5:37. The Jews were there, and yet Jesus said that they had never seen his Father's shape or heard his voice. Well?

    And before you use this verse for your so-called "understanding",

    "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Matt. 28:19.

    See the word GIVEN? If he were God, why did his POWER have to be Given? God means someone who has NO EQUAL nor IS ANYONE SUPERIOR TO HIM. Jesus came here to do one thing: instruct us that by loving God and doing his will, we return to him. That's where the FIRST and FOREMOST commandment comes in. And what have you been preaching then? Your theory is just "Believe that Jesus is God". Then what? What comes after that? Dead end nlng na? You are interested in getting more "members" into your sect. I am NOT. I only seek to point people in the right way. If they don't believe me, that's fine. But I will challenge everything and anything that perverts Jesus' TRUE MISSION. Ngayon? Your theories are plainly devoid of logic and common sense. Before you criticize mine, take a look at what you are preaching.

  6. #866

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    im not boasting of myself bro that i have known the truth in Jesus.
    It is what i've experienced in the knowledge of Him that brought myself to humility that I wanted to know more and worship HIM!

    his love letter for us...
    YouTube - ‪Father's Love Letter - Video Original‬‏

    May God bless us more...
    Humility is an elusive virtue. The more we pursue it - and the more we seem to acquire it - the more we take pride in our accomplishment, and we find ourselves back at square one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    Humility is an elusive virtue. The more we pursue it - and the more we seem to acquire it - the more we take pride in our accomplishment, and we find ourselves back at square one.
    naa pud bya g.ingn nga false humility bro. mao guro imo pasabot.

  8. #868

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    naa pud bya g.ingn nga false humility bro. mao guro imo pasabot.
    wala man ko nag ngalan niya bro ni state lang ko ug General principle . Pero pwede siguro pero kita ra may motan aw ana bro. ang idea lang nako sa ako gisulte nga the more ka mo claim nga naa na nimo ang virtue sa humility the more nga wala na nimo ang virtue kay ni claim naman ka nga naa ka ana. Mao bitaw nga elusive ug lisod dakpon ang humility....

  9. #869

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    wala man ko nag ngalan niya bro ni state lang ko ug General principle . Pero pwede siguro pero kita ra may motan aw ana bro. ang idea lang nako sa ako gisulte nga the more ka mo claim nga naa na nimo ang virtue sa humility the more nga wala na nimo ang virtue kay ni claim naman ka nga naa ka ana. Mao bitaw nga elusive ug lisod dakpon ang humility....
    mao jud lgeh bro. As the old saying goes, "A humble person never claims he is humble."

  10. #870

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    Quote Originally Posted by wire View Post
    makalibog!
    kuwang rakas pag salig brad.. (char)

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