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[godsaint]

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sakto, there is no such thing as a "communist country"
socialist nuon...

communism is a global economic and political system.

Democratic country pud wla sad na.

[franXs]

Naka dungog ko ani na balita kato mi simba ko sa sto nino. Ga second collection me ani para hinabang sa church.

[emow]

systems may or may not matter at all...behind every success of a country is a good leader -- not really the system.

Communism will never again flourish in the world ever since the idea of democracy has been spread by the United States (one invasion at a time..hehe). The idea of capitalism goes with the idea of democracy as Adam Smith has introduced it two centuries ago or so... the problem with democratic countries is their leaders. take ours for example..mas mu uyon pa nuon ku na naay dictator sa atoa to have absolute control on the necessary change to be implemented... look at china, thailand, singapore... pero the peoplemust gamble on thissole dictator, he may be good or bad... thats where the limitation or barrier for a dictatorial government. in times when a country needs radical change to solve its problems, democracy can really slow it down... a transitory dictatorial government may perhaps accomplish change... =)

[internasyonalista]

daaghan propaganda ang burgesya sa atoa kabahin nga maayo kuno ang diktadura... gipanghambog nila nga milambo kuno ang nasud nga giharian sa diktador... tinuod ba kini?

ang USSR ni Stalin?
ang CHina ni Mao?
ang Cuba ni Castro?
ang Germany ni Hiltler?
ang Italy ni Mossulini?
ang Iraq ni Sadaam?

kini nga propaganda buot lamang ipalayo ang mga mamumuo ug kabus nga maghiusa ug huptan sa ilang mga kamot ang ilang kaugmaon. buot sa burgesya nga magsalig na lang kita og manluluwas nga usa ka tawo o usa ka organisasyon... angayang kining batukan nga propaganda...

[proletariat]

kita nman nato ang epekto sa nadugta na kapitalistang sistema...ang mga gyiyera..ang pagkaguba sa kinaiyahan!..

[torade]

bisag kinsa pa nang molingkod sa gobyerno kun walay mo suporta niya, aw hagba dyapon ang country, padung gyud na kayabo.

[situnsko]

nindot na kaayo discussion diri da...
minaw lang gihapon ko...

[internasyonalista]

nganong mag-agad ug magsalig man ta sa uban? nganong sige man ta laom nga may moluwas pa kanato?

ang ato ,is,omg panaghiusa ug paglihok para sa atong kaugalingong kaayohan mao ang makaluwas kanato. wala nay masalbar pa kanato kondili kita ra mismo. apan kinsa man kining "kita"? ang administrasyon ba? ang oposisyon? ang gobyerno? usa ka "maayong" lider? WALA KANILANG TANAN....

ang "KITA" mao ang mga mamumuo isip usa ka hut-ong ug dili mga indibidwal... bisan kitang mga batan-on nga nag-eskwela ug wala nag-eskwela TRABAHANTE ang padulngan. gani, daghan na kanato nagtrabaho naman...

ang "KITA" walay labot ang mga kapitalista -- adminisstrasyon man o oposisyon.

ang gobyerno gigamit lamang sa mga kapitalista aron sila ang magpuli-puli sa gahom.... ang oposisyon nahimong administrasyon ug ang administsrasyon nahimong oposisyon....

kapitalismo ba ang sistema nga maghatag kanato og maayong kaugmaon? DILI. klaro na kaayo kini sa nahitabo dili lang sa atong nasud kondili sa tibuok kalibotan...

[LytSlpr]

society will always have order or classes. it's the natural course of things even in nature there is order and class.

now, if communism is your idea of "equalizing" everything then i don't think that is possible and imposing it will just be trouble if not bloodshed. it is a no brainer that majority of the world's society prefer democracy and in a democracy, the elite and the capitalists that i assume you abhor will thrive but the poor can also excel if they want to. no one is stopping them. if your motive for communism is to "reset" the world's or this country's natural and economic resources equally among classes then that is just like dreaming that a camel can pass through the eye of a needle because in this time and age that is just a longshot, a very far one. the motive is good but the method is preposterous.

and since some sick individuals cannot live with this natural fact that is why they plant bombs in shopping malls and subways.

LIFE IS UNFAIR! and that is how the world was made to be.

we could only hope that adam and eve did not eat the forbidden fruit or God will flood the world again. until then, the best thing we can do is work our asses off to earn and protect our interests.

[internasyonalista]

society will always have order or classes. it's the natural course of things even in nature there is order and class.

thousands of years ago, the primitive people live without classes... classes emerged from the relations of production in which some people own the means and many do not....that is the what happened in reality in the history of humanity....

equality means no exploitation between human beings....extracting the labor of others for the benefit to those who do not work is inequality, exploitation...

communism means to eliminate exploitaion....