FREE MASONRY - the Principles

[knockout]

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balik ta sa Free Masonry Principles.
kung maayo ni sila nga group sa society, nganong dili man sila mo share sa ilang tinuod nga mga principles?
aron sad ma informa ng public nga transparent sad sila like other groups. walay cguro daghan pa mo join ani nila.

[pijavier]

I guess there are always 2 sides to the coin bro. In fairness sa FreeMasons, naa gyud silay mga nindot nga gipangbuhat, and they have good principles but naa sad mga hidden motives, and i am not generalizing them ky naa sad sa uban groups.

I guess depende na na sa tao like ngano naa may daghan gusto mag politiko? ky gusto daw makatabang. di ba noble cause kau but then gusto sad sa 20% nga SOP. Like one Istoryan shared in this thread, business ra gyud ni tanan. kwarta ra gyud. everyone is after their own ambitions and motives.

ky kung dili pa ingon ana, then transparent unta ni nga mga groups.

[giddyboy]

In Social Psychology, the need for affiliation and group identification is somewhat universal. A person's motives to join groups is varied. It could be that preference for the familiar and the "like me". People like best those who are familiar and similar to them because these others can be understood more easily and their behavior is generally more predictable. Other than this need are some other likely reasons: Political, Business, & Spiritual.

It is a big factor that seems to motivate Filipino behavior.

AND I view this tendency as being linked to basic human needs.

[knockout]

thefore in this case, theres nothing to argue about this topic anymore.
daghan kaayo ko nakat.unan ani nga thread. although wala gyud accurate ang concrete informations nga nang gawas kay others may find it offensive and other said its not true. but this is one of the most interesting thread in this forum. hehe.

[pijavier]

Yes I agree no man is one bananan. Ganahan gyud ta magkuyog nga usa ka bulig

[giddyboy]

Daghan d ay Free Masons sa Mormon? nalibog ko sa mga posts?

wa ta kabaw bay...secret man kha...hehe

"Mormonism and Freemasonry are so intimately interwoven and interrelated that the two can never be dissociated."...

it all happened in the USA...Nag-away ni ang Mormons ug Freemasonry until such time that they embraced each other for Brotherhood.

"Nauvoo, Illinois had three lodges and Iowa had two, the five collectively being identified as the "Mormon Lodges."...false claims that Mormon Temple Ceremony was so Masonic in structure that the Mormon Church was actually practicing clandestine Masonry."...

for the complete article: "The Mormon Church and Freemasonry" By Terry Chateau

http://www.freemason.org/cfo/may_june_2001/mormon.htm

[pijavier]

wa ta kabaw bay...secret man kha...hehe

"Mormonism and Freemasonry are so intimately interwoven and interrelated that the two can never be dissociated."...

it all happened in the USA...Nag-away ni ang Mormons ug Freemasonry until such time that they embraced each other for Brotherhood.

"Nauvoo, Illinois had three lodges and Iowa had two, the five collectively being identified as the "Mormon Lodges."...false claims that Mormon Temple Ceremony was so Masonic in structure that the Mormon Church was actually practicing clandestine Masonry."...

for the complete article: "The Mormon Church and Freemasonry" By Terry Chateau

http://www.freemason.org/cfo/may_june_2001/mormon.htm

Hey... now that you've explained this, i think i read about this before. Nalibog gani sila sa Mormon temple ba if lodge and the community was starting to ask questions... yeah sakto.

[giddyboy]

Hey... now that you've explained this, i think i read about this before. Nalibog gani sila sa Mormon temple ba if lodge and the community was starting to ask questions... yeah sakto.

nya ang problema lng aning duha ka combination is the possibility of "proselytism".

During the twentieth century, the Mormon church experienced a period of strong growth resulting from both a high birth rate and extensive proselytism.

Proselytism is the practice of attempting to convert people to another opinion, usually another religion.

[pijavier]

Yeah uso mani ang Proselytism even now.

So gipa patay gyud ni si William Morgan sa mga masons for telling their secrets? Kuyawa sa. karon pa ko naka discover ani dah.

And related sad ang Mormonism sa FreeMasonry. Naa gyud bitaw symbols no. kuyawa sad ani nga principles oi.

Punan pa, si Joseph Smith sad nga founder sa Mormons, daghan man sad daw to siya asawa. and I heard mao na ang reason nga gipatay siya, pero lahi sad ning gipatay siya sa freemasons.

unsa man gyud nag tinuod ani nga Mason man kaha iyang papa og brother? gubota

[giddyboy]

Yeah uso mani ang Proselytism even now.

So gipa patay gyud ni si William Morgan sa mga masons for telling their secrets? Kuyawa sa. karon pa ko naka discover ani dah.

And related sad ang Mormonism sa FreeMasonry. Naa gyud bitaw symbols no. kuyawa sad ani nga principles oi.

Punan pa, si Joseph Smith sad nga founder sa Mormons, daghan man sad daw to siya asawa. and I heard mao na ang reason nga gipatay siya, pero lahi sad ning gipatay siya sa freemasons.

unsa man gyud nag tinuod ani nga Mason man kaha iyang papa og brother? gubota

Sauna c Joseph Smith (the Mormon founder) man gud ang nag-promote ug POLYGAMY or PLURAL MARRIAGES, which the result was that the US Congress passed laws criminalizing the practice and dissolving polygamous families, disincorporated the LDS Church, and began seizing church property. in due time the church renounced the practice of polygamy.

Today, the LDS Church rejects the practice and excommunicates members who engage in it...

as for sa iyang papa or brother, wa ko kbalo ana dah...