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  1. #841

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    hello malayang kaluluwa.

    scorpion:i agree with you. i think the kali/arnis/escrima community should come up with a set of rules that does not demean the art. where we can see the players use their strategies and techniques, where we can see offensive and defensive play.

    all:hey why not try to brainstorm on what rules we can suggest for better tournament play among different styles?

    MK CEBU:hey pipol musta na mo?buhi pa ba?c",

  2. #842

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    pauwiks, nindot bitaw kung naay mas nindot na tournament para sa lain2x na styles. pero dont know how it can be done considering daghan mawala na techniques sa sport sparring especially sa close range.

  3. #843

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    Tama gyd mo.Â* We should limit what we teach foreigners kay ga gara-gara ang mga kagwang.Â* Actually, in the US, it's more a business than anything else.Â* As I've mentioned in my past post, a lot of these people like playing up the "moro motiff" aron ingnon mas "authentic" sila.Â* Most styles there practice soft anyway (I had one guy train with me, and he had sticks which were with him for several years, it did'nt last 5 minutes with us).Â* Maski katung unarmored na sparring sa dog brothers... I've been thinking about it and weve been assessing if our group would like to try that (unarmored sparring).Â* The consensus was NO.Â* The main reason is that it is too dangerous.Â* THEY (dog brothers) use fencing masks and in their sessions, its enough to protect the face.Â* We use the regular FMA armor which is a lot thicker and offers more protection, yet, the steel bars protecting the face get "bent" (no kidding, ma bahug gyud sya) and we still get bumps in the head despite the thick padding (mabukulan gyud mi).Â* We also still get bruises wnd welts even with the body armor protecting us, this despite the fact that we use thin sticks for sparring.Â* So we really can't imagine sparring without armor using the same sticks they use without doing permanent damage to our partners.Â* In practice sessions, we already get a lot of cuts... practice palang na!Â* Unsa na lang kun tinud-anay, naa pa kaha mabuhi? HeheheÂ* Anyway, call me a coward, but I would rather get into a real life and death situation 100% rather than limp into one because I got "permanently damaged" during "practice."Â* Hahaha... Now THAT would be ironic!Â* That's basically my training philosophy.

    We also experienced american practitioners come over here thinking "they wanna teach us Filipinos our ancestral arts" coz they think they have the best styles.Â* Maka saput!Â* Anyway, in fairness, not all of them are like that.Â* I'm not a racist but I do get irritated!

  4. #844

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    MK Cebu nagpadayon gihapon!


  5. #845

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    Philippine History from the FMA Warrior’s Perspective (1770-1779).

    1770 –

    By 1770, five years before the waging of the American War for Independence against Great Britain, there were already about 30,000 revolutionaries in Bohol.

    1771 –

    19 Jan: A “superior bando” or weapon ban was issued again by the Spanish government upon the Filipinos.

    La Novena de San Juan de Dios. The first valedictory work to be written by a Filipino priest-poet and writer of historical and theological treatises - Bartolome Saguinsin (c.1694-1772).

    Sulu: Sultan Alim ud-Din declared a jihad against the Manila Spaniards for having unlawfully detained him on his way home from May Nilad at Real Fuerza del Pilar de Zaragosa in Zamboanga.

    Vietnam: Many martial arts were created during XVI-XVIII centuries, when Vietnam was separated in several states. It was a good situation for the developing of martial arts. Many martial arts surfaced during the Tay Son Rebellion (1771-178, the first serious attempt for unifying the country. The rebel's base was in Binh Dinh Province, which still is a place with many martial arts.

    1773 –

    Sulu: H.R.H. Sultan Isirail (1773-177. The British were evicted from their Sulu base by Filipino assault. The Royal Captain, a merchant ship of the British East India Co., was lost off a coral reef in the Philippines.

    Rome: Pope Clement XIV dissolved the Jesuit order.

    USA: The Boston Tea Party.

    1774 –

    Burma: Kraitus and Kraitus (198 trace the origins of Muay Thai to a contest held in 1774. In the Burmese City of Rangoon (after the ancient Thai capitol of Ayuthya fell in 1767), Lord Mangra - the Burmese King - called for a seven day Buddhist festival. A Thai Boxer, named Nai Khanom Tom, defeated more than nine Burmese fighters one after another before Lord Mangra, thereby earning his admiration.

    England: British Parliament responds to the Boston Tea Party by passing the Boston Port Act, which closed the port of Boston; Americans regard this as the first of the so-called "Intolerable Acts."

    1775 –

    Sulu: Datu Tating in twenty vessels with 4,000 warriors assaulted the British military base in Sulu and carted away booty amounting to US$1,000,000 including an enormous supply of war materials.

    USA: The "shot heard 'round the world" is fired by British troops at Lexington, Massachusetts. American Revolutionary War begins.

    10 Nov: When the winds of unrest stirred the American colonies to spawn revolution against the tyranny of King George of England it fell upon the militia, a loose knit army of farmers and settlers under the leadership of George Washington, to defeat the British Red Coats and create a new nation. Armed ships set sail to fight the British fleet at sea. There arose a need for a fighting force separate from the crews who sailed the ships and manned the cannons. The Continental Congress, addressing the problem, authorized the formation of a military force to fill the need. And so, the word went out: "FIND A FEW GOOD MEN AND CALL THEM MARINES!" Thus on 10 November 1775, the Continental Marines became the first military organization authorized by congregational action. In those days of wooden sailing ships, the Continental Marines kept order at sea and maintained internal security on board ship. In combat they manned the fighting tops, sniping at gun crews on enemy ships. On deck they led boarding parties in close action and repelled enemy boarding parties. These Marines earned the nickname "Leatherneck." The time honored sobriquet was derived from the thick leather stock worn around the neck to protect the Marine from the decapitating slash of an enemy's cutlass. (from http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marines/l/bllegends.htm)

    Now accepted by Webster as a synonym for Marine, the term "Leatherneck" was derived from a leather stock once worn around the neck by both American and British Marines--and soldiers also.

    1776 –

    4 Jul: (USA) Declaration of Independence is drafted.

    1777 –

    USA: The first black pugilist of renown was Bill Richmond, the son of a Georgia born slave who drifted North as the property of John Charlton, and the first to cross the Atlantic and display in British Rings the boxing he had learned while fighting on plantations in the south. During 1777, while New York was held by British troops, Richmond by whipping in succession three British soldiers in a tavern attracted the attention of General Earl Percy, who afterwards became the Duke of Northumberland. The British General took Richmond to his homeland, and under his patronage the Negro, who was only a middleweight, defeated several top heavyweights.

    British Gen. Burgoyne surrender to Americans after decisive Battle of Saratoga, New York.

    Ireland: The Code Duello, covering the practice of dueling and points of honor, was drawn up and settled at Clonmel Summer Assizes, 1777, by gentlemen-delegates of Tipperary, Galway, Sligo, Mayo and Roscommon, and prescribed for general adoption throughout Ireland. The Code was generally also followed in England and on the Continent with some slight variations. In America, the principal rules were followed, although occasionally there were some glaring deviations.

    1778 –

    Feb: A “superior bando” or weapon ban was issued again by the Spanish government upon the Filipinos.

    After Spanish rule was restored, Spanish Governor José Basco y Vargas (1778 to 1787), implemented a series of reforms designed to promote the economic development of the islands and make them independent of the subsidy from New Spain.

    Scotland: William St. Clair, first elected Master of the Grand Lodge of Scotland, dies.

    1779 –

    Spain: Spanish troops invaded Florida.

    USA: Father Junipero Serra (the founder of Monterey), confirmed Filipino sailors as members of the community.

  6. #846

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    hello rin pauwiks!

    mangutana ra unta ko..nganong kinahanglan pa man nato nga muapil sa mga inter-style tournament? di ba combat art ta? nganong musulod pa man ta anang tournament na medyo artificial ang fighting environment? ang ginahuna-huna man gud nako basig madegenerate na hinoon ang kali ana... ang pagsabot man gud nako aning kali kay dili sport pero art nga mutudlo sa ato unsaon mulaban sa tinood nga laban. ang sa ako ra basig mawala na hinoon ta sa true spirit of the art...

    musta na ang project mo sa phillipine history lone wolf?

  7. #847

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    mangutana ra unta ko..nganong kinahanglan pa man nato nga muapil sa mga inter-style tournament?
    MONEY!Â* Let's face it.Â* Our community is loosing its ground unya ang mga ekspert sa Eskrima kinahanglan makakaon sa ilahang nahilbal-an. But I still strongly disagree that we enter into such things...

    La-in pa'y ato.Â* Dungog nako nga si councilor Jack D. Jakosalem will include Eskrima/Arnis/KAli to educational system.Â* Is it true?


  8. #848

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    malayang kaluluwa:

    yes! its true bay dili ta kailangan muapil nila pero sila pwedw mo apil art sa eskrima.

    madegenerate or degraded.
    Degraded na gyud ang ART sa eskrima bay wla lang mo kahibaw usa mauni sila kanang dakong grupo nag paingon nga maayong laki kuno , kanang gabuwabuwa lang ang baba.Nag solit nalang gani ni nga group kay tungod sa pride or mg ahakug ug dungog.

  9. #849

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    malayang kaluluwa:

    yes! its true bay dili ta kailangan muapil nila pero sila pwedw mo apil art sa eskrima.

    madegenerate or degraded.
    Degraded na gyud ang ART sa eskrima bay wla lang mo kahibaw usa mauni sila kanang dakong grupo nag paingon nga maayong laki kuno , kanang gabuwabuwa lang ang baba.Nag split nalang gani ni nga group kay tungod sa pride or mga hakug ug dungog. mga people sa estorya ayaw mo kalain ani kay kini mga facts or mga nahitabo nani dili lang usa ka opinyon.

  10. #850

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    pauwiks, musta na bai?

    I feel your pain bro.Â* People would say I know FMA but the question is, do you practice FMA?Â* Big difference between knowing and practicing.Â* Aside from taking other MA... you feel sikat kaayo if you practice CMA, JMA or KMA because of the uniforms... unya makatabang kaha na ug atangan ka sa dalan?Â*

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