The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[reggielovescake]

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So what would we Use to Validate the Perfectness of whats written on the Bible? Science?

Btw, God did Not personally Created the Bible. The People who wrote the Bible are inspired by God through the Holy Spirit.

FYI bro, the Bible has lots of loopholes, it is not perfect in any sense nor does it conform with morals. I presume you have not read the bible back2back. God did not personally create the Bible as you say but if I was God and I were to create a Holy Bible.. I would make it perfect so everyone can understand, I would make it clear so that no misunderstanding would occur. Because I am the benevolent and omnipotent GOD.

Holy Spirit/ Father / Son = God so basically God had a part of the creation.

[slabdans]

bitaw, mas maayo pa sa huwes na lang diay.

dili man ni problema...pagpabunyag nako sa baptist before wala man nausab akong baptismal katoliko raman gihahon asta akong birth certificate

[reggielovescake]

You mean imperfect in terms of scientific accounts..of course di jud perfect ang bible scientifically kay dili man na scientific book in the first place..hehehe


what? No...hehehe
The pillars simply mean the foundations of the earth...
Pillars are used as foundations for houses diba?
in metaphor, kung ikaw ang breadwinner...you are the pillar of your household..

So you mean to say half of what the bible say is a fiction book? How does that make it a reliable source? I mean, I get the fact of what you're saying pero if its just fiction then its non-sense.

they were prohpets for Christ's sake, not scientists..LOL
they were not making things up, those people had divine revelations...not scientific ones...
kay abi dili scientific, buot2x na diay dayun? hahaha
scientific ba diay nang ingnun nimu imung mama nga i love you? diba dili...so nag buot2x ra diay ka whenever you say so? hehehehe..

divine revelations point out to the spiritual reality of Life and creation.. therefore, they don't need to know about atoms to speak the Truth about Creation and the Creator.

and nganu impamugos man jud nimu ang science sa bible? when they are 2 separate truths..
sige daw, kung ikaw ang Ginoo how would you reveal to moses that you created man knowing moses' capacity in terms of scientific knowledge?...would you talk to moses about evolution of species? of course NOT...you would reveal your Truth in ways Moses would understand.. otherwise, mag nosebleed to si Moses..Lol

Because if God really did create the bible, And if he was really omnipotent and benelovent God he would've made sure that everyone understands what he IS saying and not produce misunderstanding. Because I am God and I am perfect.

LOL the bible did not specifically say that the earth is 6000 years old..people who took the literal view on biblical creation accounts said so...in other words, misinterpretation na..
ayaw paka sad.a ang bible oi..hehehehe

Ummmm yes it did, if you do the numbers correctly in your bible, it will tell you that it is 6000 years old after Genesis.

so tell me, why should i take the biblical creation accounts literally when it is very possible that they are not to be taken literally?

i'd like you to read about theistic evolution, perhaps mas makasabut ka sa akoa and the Catholic Church's point of view.

Not just the creation account, but the BIBLE itself. You take bits of information from science and you apply it in

i dunno what religion you're talking about bai but my religion surely didn't say that Science is the devil's work...Lol
the Vatican even have their own scientific observatory..in Fact, there's a significant number of Catholic clerics who have had large contributions to Science. Gregor mendel for example also known as the "Father of Genetics"...was an Augustinian friar..daghan pang uban..

It literally did. The bible was written in latin and science actually means satan.

[reggielovescake]

OT

Laws-Laws guro sa Science

Hatag daw Facts sa Science nga adtung panahuna WALAY Bitin nga Nisulti, Naa kay Physical Evidence? or Scientific evidence?


Btw, ikaw man tong nag psot ani sa una sa?
-"The Biggest Trick Jesus did was to Trick/convince people the he Existed.."

So yeah, Science ka...

Bro as far as I've known, wala pay evidence nakita nga ang bitin or any animal less than humans na naay vocal cords and a brain big enough for it to process and talk.

[SioDenz]

Bro as far as I've known, wala pay evidence nakita nga ang bitin or any animal less than humans na naay vocal cords and a brain big enough for it to process and talk.

Is that an ABSOLUTE Claim or Just a Limited Observation?

The question is Specific - DURING that Time.
In the Law of Logic, giving an answer based on the Limited Scope using Imperfect Method is Not acceptable


During 1600 bitaw, WALA PAMAY evidence nga naay Oxygen nga ni Exists - Does that Mean Oxygen Did Not existed during that time? Nope...

[SioDenz]

FYI bro, the Bible has lots of loopholes,

Loopholes?

Do you have any Question in the Bible that dont have any Answers from Scholars? or anybody?
Can you present US anything from the Bible that No One can Explain?

Everything In the Bible have explanation - It can even explain itself.

Its Just that you dont want to believe the explanation.

it is not perfect in any sense nor does it conform with morals. I presume you have not read the bible back2back.

Morals based on what? What basis of Morality does the Bible did not Conform? your Morals?

God did not personally create the Bible as you say but if I was God and I were to create a Holy Bible.. I would make it perfect so everyone can understand, I would make it clear so that no misunderstanding would occur. Because I am the benevolent and omnipotent GOD.

Theres Not enough explanation that can Satisfy a Person that refuse to Believe that there is God. Understanding starts in our Hearts not on our Minds.

"Nothing good can come if the will is wrong. And to give evidence to him who loves Not the truth is only to give him plentiful material for Misinterpretation."
-famous quote

Anyway, the Bible is Written in accordance with God's Plan. And the Most important thing is UNDERSTANDING its True Message Requires Guidance and HELP From GOD because its a Spiritual Book not a Science or Math book. A person reads the bible and will Fully understands it by the Help from God. First you have to believe in God and ask God for the Help or Gift of understanding.

But if you dont Believe in God in the First place and you dont even recognize its spirituality then yeah its all Garbage...

[noy]

So you mean to say half of what the bible say is a fiction book? How does that make it a reliable source? I mean, I get the fact of what you're saying pero if its just fiction then its non-sense.

unsay fiction oi? Fiction ba diay nang metaphor? hahahaha!...
so kung muingon ko nga ang ako ang haligi sa among pamilya because my family depends on me..fiction na kay di man ko literally haligi? Lol

Because if God really did create the bible, And if he was really omnipotent and benelovent God he would've made sure that everyone understands what he IS saying and not produce misunderstanding. Because I am God and I am perfect.

Do you know what perfection is in its absolute sense? what you say about perfection is the perfection you perceived..

sala ba diay na sa Ginoo kung di ganahan musabut ang ubang tao? hehehe

so you think you can understand everything there is about God if God would reveal everything to you for your satisfaction?
hmmm..Let's see..

what do you think will happen to you if God would reveal the fullness of Him to you?
imagine yourself being loaded with so much information, diba maglisud na ka ug apas? or a kid with a capacity for basic math only yet being lectured with Calculus..hahaha..mao nay gitawag nato ug information overload..Lol
now, multiply that information overload state to infinity kay God gud imung i define diba? creator of the heavens and the earth, creator of all things seen and unseen yada yada yada.......hahahaha..
so still see full access as perfection?

God has only given mankind what mankind can handle..
and besides, unsay gamit sa gift of intelligence if we want everything to be spoon fed..
God has not demanded you to understand His fullness bai..Faith is what He asks of you..

Ummmm yes it did, if you do the numbers correctly in your bible, it will tell you that it is 6000 years old after Genesis.

then tell that to the people who interprets the Bible literally..LOL
nganu ako may imung patubagon ana nga di man ko young earth creationist..hehehe

Not just the creation account, but the BIBLE itself. You take bits of information from science and you apply it in

oi...murag wa man nimu tubaga akong pangutana..Lol
sige, let me rephrase my question,
why should i take everything in the Bible literally when some of its contents are possibly not to be taken literally?

klaro kaayo wa nagbasa bahin sa Theistic Evolution ay..hahaha..

It literally did. The bible was written in latin and science actually means satan.

Literally? LOL
bai, Science in Latin is "scientia" which means knowledge...
Satan is not even Latin...it's Hebrew, meaning adversary..

[reggielovescake]

Is that an ABSOLUTE Claim or Just a Limited Observation?

The question is Specific - DURING that Time.
In the Law of Logic, giving an answer based on the Limited Scope using Imperfect Method is Not acceptable


During 1600 bitaw, WALA PAMAY evidence nga naay Oxygen nga ni Exists - Does that Mean Oxygen Did Not existed during that time? Nope...

Umm.. nope because we have trees and the sea

Then tagae ko ug animal nga mo storya except humans.

[reggielovescake]

Bro gikapuy na kog qoute2 isuwat nalang nako tanan

Yeshua = Jesus

There is no archeological, historical evidence from 4 BCE to 30 AD that there ever was a divine man named yeshua. No writings of that era, no coins depicting him, no physical description, no date of birth, no works of carpentry, no government documents written about him by either hebrew or roman officials of that time yet personal and government documents from that era..NOTHING about a divine jesus or yeshua.

The new testament is a collection of books written by authors unknown. Stories of a talking snake (snakes don't have vocal chords) a talking donkey. Yeshua cursing a fig tree, and yeshua running pigs off a cliff to get the demons out (thats sinful in itself, ruining some farmers livelyhood)

The four gospel writers are not the orignal writers, thats been proven. Some of Josephus writings have been proven forgeries, and Paul said he only saw yeshua in a vision, so he never met him. Therefore without plausable evidence, the yeshua story is BUSTED!

Stories of the bible were based on sumerian tablets. All fiction.

Ni basa man ko sa imong gisulti theistic evolution. Pero nganong naabot man ka diha? That is like a no-brainer solution for something you can't explain yet science can explain. Problem here is you cancel out every account in the bible that science can explain.

BLIND FAITH is really harmful and religion is not even true!!

You're saying the bible is correct except sa isa ka account. Then what makes it not perfect? It is infact that very obvious reason that even the creation itself is wrong.

Unsay perfection? Sure oi? Stone to death all gays and those who are not virgins, mao nay perfection?I dont need to know what perfection is to know this is morally wrong.

"I create man and woman with original sin then i destroed most of them for sinning. Then I impregnated a woman with myself as her child so that I could be born later. I will kill myself as a sacrifice to myself to save all of you from the sin I originally created."

kani na lang para mahuman gikapuy na kos topic haha

1) Is religion true?
My answer : NO, It teaches us to be satisfied and not understand it, teaches us to be satisfied to not know it all, things sound like an explaination but dont have to be explained..
2) Is the bible myth or actual truth? (based on events happening)
My answer: Myth, almost everything from the bible was from ancient religions.

Salamat sa topic

[slabdans]

"I create man and woman with original sin then i destroed most of them for sinning. Then I impregnated a woman with myself as her child so that I could be born later. I will kill myself as a sacrifice to myself to save all of you from the sin I originally created."

pasagbata nalang kos inyong topc nga pwerte taasa Lol

naukay man gud ko sa""I create man and woman with original sin" because accroding to bible walay perfect man to...It was Good paman gani