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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    pagka grabe nalang jud sa ad hominem dri. If you are as smart as you espouse, try to conduct yourself in that manner.

    sakto man si bearish. You can reduce crime without implementing capital punishment. Look at the Swiss. You can discipline a population without having to threaten them with death.

    Grabeha sad nimug salig sa Philippine Justice system gud. Bisan ganig first world countries, ma sayop paman gani sila ug convict sa mga innocente, dri pa nuon sa Pilipinas. Can you imagine? You give verdict for Capital Punishment, nya faulty kaayo atong Justice system, as Gjhone pointed out? Is that really "justice" that you put to death a person who didn't do anything because of an erred verdict?

    And why are we making an assumption that all drug mules are aware that they are trafficking illicit substances? There are a lot of people who get caught and sent to jail because they were unwittingly smuggling illicit substances. Can we put them to death too?

    When you can find an arbiter that is full-proof, maybe we can start talking about the death penalty being implemented again. Even though I would still be iffy about it.

    2edgy4me
    reduce crime without implementing capital punishment/ how unya ning ingon ka naay mga drug mule na wala kahibaw unsa na ilang dala wala sila kabaw na drugas diay nah? huh!!!! isulti nas grade 1 student ayaw dri... off course wala may laing alibi ang suspect kundi mao raman, caught red handed unsa pamay lain nimung irason...
    hahaha, ingon ana na jud diay ang tan.aw nimus pilipino na musugot mudala bisag unsa bisag wala kahibaw unsa iyang gidala basta mkakwarta xa? mao na imu pasabot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vi3wts!ck View Post
    ang kung adto kag singapore latoson man ka ngadto kung badlongon ka ma o sa ilang community less ang crime, laliman uroy kung latoson kalang pataka kag luwa sa imong laway. Kung libre pa latos sa ato diri kanang mga kawatan, tulisan, ug uban nga badlungon, mu apply cguro ko ba og tig latos.

    naa koy bookmark gikan sa singapore hinatag sa akong boss, naay illustration ngadto nga bisan gane mag kaun og chewing gum libre latos...
    uu boss, dili lng kay sa singapore na asta sa SAUDI ARABIA,,, tanang piniriso didto LATOS na sila every friday... mao nang wa juy gusto mu papreso didto,,,, dri kay slack ra kaayu ang presohan nato, matod pas ubang tambay na way grado... lami kuno sa presohan kay libre pa kuno kaon.... bwahahahahaha

  2. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by wojciech View Post
    unya ning ingon ka naay mga drug mule na wala kahibaw unsa na ilang dala wala sila kabaw na drugas diay nah? huh!!!! isulti nas grade 1 student ayaw dri...
    More research, less exclamation points and ad hominems.

    Schapelle Corby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  3. #73

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    Maong na abolish dris pinas ang DEATH PENALTY tungod sa SIMBAHAN, Humanitarian kunohay... boooowwlsyeeeet!.. pangutan.on tika... are these criminals considered as HUMAN while they commit crimes like RAPE,ROBBERY+MURDER? they dont act like HUmans anyway so why threat them as our own kind.

    Kitang pinoy man gud sobra ka mang.ginloy.on bisag wala nas LUGAR. it is because the CHURCH POISONED our cheap minds.F*** the Church pangadje ray ilang mahatag nimu ug ikaw mamatay.

    ****æRLO*** i challenge tika.... i pa RAPE q na sa addict imu mama ug asawa/uyab,,, unya ipa TULIS/PATAY naku na imung mga igsoon ug amahan... unya aq iatubang nimu ang mga suspect tagaan tikag KUTSILYO, bahala nka unsay buhaton nimu... let me unleashed the DEMON inside you!!!!!!

    Kung bayot ka, muhilak nlng jud ka

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    Quote Originally Posted by wojciech View Post
    uu boss, dili lng kay sa singapore na asta sa SAUDI ARABIA,,, tanang piniriso didto LATOS na sila every friday... mao nang wa juy gusto mu papreso didto,,,, dri kay slack ra kaayu ang presohan nato, matod pas ubang tambay na way grado... lami kuno sa presohan kay libre pa kuno kaon.... bwahahahahaha
    mulang..... ganador paman gane ang bugas sa presohan. kuyaw pa kaayo atong presohan kay mag election pa kung kinsa ilang butaran pagka mayor2x sa selda. as far as I know, ang mayor2x kuno diri sa selda sa cebu city jail kay bootan kuno. Basta kuno naay gubot, ang both sides kastigohon aron patas, latuson og tubo nga rubber. Luoy ang rapist og kanang mangulata og asawa kay tibook selda mag linya kay libre kulata. Ang ga ingon nako ani kay akong silingan nga na preso og 3 ka tuig. Jolibee kuno ang sud an basta naay dalaw ang mayor.

    Mao nay gi ingon nga kung nag problema ka sa kaun? Adto dagan presohan kay libre kaun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vundaboi View Post
    More research, less exclamation points and ad hominems.

    Schapelle Corby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Research? wikipedia 100% reliable source of info diay nah? hahahaha. mga bag.ong henerasyon sa online nlng magsalig dili sa actual na panghitabo...
    Kinsa mang PUSHER na mupataka nlag plant ug DRUGAS sa random na bag,,,, it cost thousands of US dollars unya mamasin nlng kag or patakag sulod ug bag para makaabot sa destination... it is just a fiction my friend, creative ra kaayu ug huna huna ang mga taw bisan ug impossible,,, offcourse kinsang UWAKA ang muangkon na xay gadagit sa PISO,,, offcourse puro na ALIBI... taga indonesia diay ka para makahibaw jud kas tibook istorya...

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    It actually goes beyond just using capital punishment to deter crime. The attitude towards earning a living and living off other people depends on the culture. This can be determined by the way a government works. If it had social programs that were sustainable by an availability of resources such as money and oil then there is basically no incentive to petty crimes in order to survive. Others can result to effective social programs like food stamps and all, but in extreme cases were government does not function optimally then desperation will often lead to these acts of violence. A father may steal or rob just to feed his family and he could care less about his own well-being. For others, if they can't make ends meet they might as well kill themselves.

    Singapore has a death penalty, that is a good point to consider since singapore has to keep its reputation a global powerhouse of international business and finance. It cannot afford to be tarnished by liberal ideals since it was founded on strict and effective leadership. Outside influences cannot change how singapore functions, there were attempts in the past by the US and the communist but this was quelled swiftly by LKY.

    Here in the philippines, does penalty does not neccessarily deter crime, maybe during Marcos time it could. You would ask yourself why would I rob or steal when I have everything I need? The motivation to do so is based solely on being able to get a decent meal and sleep to live the next day. But now, things are not so easy anymore hence those who do not have appropriate skills and intelligence reduce themselves to doing these acts.

    All in all, a rising quality of life and a strict adherence to law and respect for each other will produce good results. Death penalty can be a good compliment, especially when the person has committed crimes against the state, or if the act itself is so heinous that society would be dumbfounded anyone so sick and twisted would be able to do that.

    There is also the problem of prison, the cost of having a person in prison actually outweight the cost of financing the education of a child from the very start up to the point they leave highschool. I think the best way to deal with prisoners is to induce them to slave labor as a way of minimizing costs. But maybe some liberals may see this as inhumane, but they don't understand the cost of running a prison as their sole objective is to weaken the institutions from within.

  7. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by wojciech View Post
    Research? wikipedia 100% reliable source of info diay nah? hahahaha. mga bag.ong henerasyon sa online nlng magsalig dili sa actual na panghitabo...
    There are 114 citations in that Wiki entry. I think you're smart enough to read through the news reports objectively.

    Kinsa mang PUSHER na mupataka nlag plant ug DRUGAS sa random na bag. Kinsa mang PUSHER na mupataka nlag plant ug DRUGAS sa random na bag,,,, it cost thousands of US dollars unya mamasin nlng kag or patakag sulod ug bag para makaabot sa destination...
    Non sequitur argument. Just the mere fact that countries like Australia encourage travelers to wrap their luggage in plastic means there is a justified cause of concern revolving around luggage tampering. It doesn't take a colorful imagination to connect the dots.

    Heck, even America's TSA can plant "evidence" - TSA Worker Plants Bag of White Powder on Student as a \"Prank\" -- Daily Intelligencer

    taga indonesia diay ka para makahibaw jud kas tibook istorya...
    No, but I don't need to be there to know that it's a country rife with corruption and corrupt customs officers.
    Last edited by Vundaboi; 07-05-2013 at 04:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.D. View Post
    It actually goes beyond just using capital punishment to deter crime. The attitude towards earning a living and living off other people depends on the culture. This can be determined by the way a government works. If it had social programs that were sustainable by an availability of resources such as money and oil then there is basically no incentive to petty crimes in order to survive. Others can result to effective social programs like food stamps and all, but in extreme cases were government does not function optimally then desperation will often lead to these acts of violence. A father may steal or rob just to feed his family and he could care less about his own well-being. For others, if they can't make ends meet they might as well kill themselves.

    Singapore has a death penalty, that is a good point to consider since singapore has to keep its reputation a global powerhouse of international business and finance. It cannot afford to be tarnished by liberal ideals since it was founded on strict and effective leadership. Outside influences cannot change how singapore functions, there were attempts in the past by the US and the communist but this was quelled swiftly by LKY.

    Here in the philippines, does penalty does not neccessarily deter crime, maybe during Marcos time it could. You would ask yourself why would I rob or steal when I have everything I need? The motivation to do so is based solely on being able to get a decent meal and sleep to live the next day. But now, things are not so easy anymore hence those who do not have appropriate skills and intelligence reduce themselves to doing these acts.

    All in all, a rising quality of life and a strict adherence to law and respect for each other will produce good results. Death penalty can be a good compliment, especially when the person has committed crimes against the state, or if the act itself is so heinous that society would be dumbfounded anyone so sick and twisted would be able to do that.

    There is also the problem of prison, the cost of having a person in prison actually outweight the cost of financing the education of a child from the very start up to the point they leave highschool. I think the best way to deal with prisoners is to induce them to slave labor as a way of minimizing costs. But maybe some liberals may see this as inhumane, but they don't understand the cost of running a prison as their sole objective is to weaken the institutions from within.
    M.A.D. OT man pero that was a nice qoute
    okay on the highlighted sentences (RED,BLUE) kinsa man kunoy capable na mkabuhat ani na sayon sayonon ra? especially the the one highlighted in BLUE
    db mga drug addict? hehehehe so trace na jud ang root sa crime. "DRUGS" unsaon pag sugpo ani? the one that was recently hanged to death in China was a very good example para masugpo.

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    Anyone looking for an incentive to earn a quick profit with minimal risk. Drugs have an effect on the brain, it enables the user to gain alertness and a little strength with a minimal use of nourishment. Plus their heightened senses reduce their way of rational thinking hence the inclination to do these crimes.

    If you cannot get skills to get an honest job, you might as well do drugs so you can be in the 'zone' to do these things. Remember not all drug users do crimes, some people who have stressful lives do these things, albeit these people do not belong to the majority of the drug users in this country hence the need to prohibit such drugs. It is bad for them since they do use it but don't do stupid things, but it is for the majority concerned.

    A progressive area does not need these psychoactive devices at all. Better opportunities and a incentive to access to easy credit will help solve the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by wojciech View Post
    M.A.D. OT man pero that was a nice qoute
    okay on the highlighted sentences (RED,BLUE) kinsa man kunoy capable na mkabuhat ani na sayon sayonon ra? especially the the one highlighted in BLUE
    db mga drug addict? hehehehe so trace na jud ang root sa crime. "DRUGS" unsaon pag sugpo ani? the one that was recently hanged to death in China was a very good example para masugpo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vundaboi View Post
    There are 114 citations in that Wiki entry. I think you're smart enough to read through the news reports objectively.



    Non sequitur argument. Just the mere fact that countries like Australia encourage travelers to wrap their luggage in plastic means there is a justified cause of concern revolving around luggage tampering. It doesn't take a colorful imagination to connect the dots.

    Heck, even America's TSA can plant "evidence" - TSA Worker Plants Bag of White Powder on Student as a \"Prank\" -- Daily Intelligencer



    No, but I don't need to be there to know that it's a country rife with corruption and corrupt customs officers.

    Kabaw man day ka na corrupt cla,,, basin naingon ato sad tong AUSTRALIAN... gibayran ang para i deviate ang istorya... ikaw rasay nag,ingon db dili man ka taga indonesia para mkahibaw sa tinood db? wa man gani ka kabaw sa kahimtang sa imung nasod, indonesia pa kaha... hehehehe,.... It doesn't take a colorful imagination to connect the dots. sa imung gipang sulti

    And wrapping of baggage? it is not their Airport law, wala gipugos ang ang mga taw na ipa wrap... naa man gani dri na sa pilipinas... bwahahahaha... IM a traveller 12 times a year q mu depart ug airports internationally. mao kabaw kos patakaran sa mga airport.. ive been to Australia mao kabaw q


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    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.D. View Post
    Anyone looking for an incentive to earn a quick profit with minimal risk. Drugs have an effect on the brain, it enables the user to gain alertness and a little strength with a minimal use of nourishment. Plus their heightened senses reduce their way of rational thinking hence the inclination to do these crimes.

    If you cannot get skills to get an honest job, you might as well do drugs so you can be in the 'zone' to do these things. Remember not all drug users do crimes, some people who have stressful lives do these things, albeit these people do not belong to the majority of the drug users in this country hence the need to prohibit such drugs. It is bad for them since they do use it but don't do stupid things, but it is for the majority concerned.

    A progressive area does not need these psychoactive devices at all. Better opportunities and a incentive to access to easy credit will help solve the problem.
    I agree, but when these "SKILLED,STRESSFULL,GOOD People" starts to abuse it... diha na magsugod ang dakong KABUANG..
    i know there are professionals na mugamit ug drugas like DOCTORS, LAWYERS. TEACHER. just to overcome stress and add some energy while workin per pila raman sad na sila ka % sa tabook drug user? 5% or maybe less. the rest mga drug addict na jud

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