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    ad2 jkj balintawak bro naa tanan boxing bjj ninjutsu mau au instructor 5h a month ra 3x a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by badongski78 View Post
    ad2 jkj balintawak bro naa tanan boxing bjj ninjutsu mau au instructor 5h a month ra 3x a week
    Sorry, but i don't understand Filippino....
    But if you are talking about JKJ-Balintawak its not BJJ, but Ju-Jutsu techniques we use (Sports Ju-Jutsu to be accurate)......

    Sincerly yours,

    Jan Jensen
    www.fma-arnis.dk

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    JKJ-Balintawak is a mix of Balintawak and parts from The Dacayana Eskrima System, Bujinkan (NInjutsu) and Sports Ju-Jutsu....Its aimed at the streets and too be used as Self defense, not as a Sports.....

    as an instructor we train our students to become a good leader someday not a gangster. Try to broaden your mind dude, the way you talk is a kind who likes trouble and the persons who wanted to train criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koryo View Post
    JKJ-Balintawak is a mix of Balintawak and parts from The Dacayana Eskrima System, Bujinkan (NInjutsu) and Sports Ju-Jutsu....Its aimed at the streets and too be used as Self defense, not as a Sports.....

    as an instructor we train our students to become a good leader someday not a gangster. Try to broaden your mind dude, the way you talk is a kind who likes trouble and the persons who wanted to train criminals.
    I promise you that criminals does not have the discipline too learn our style and neither me or my teachers (Grandmasters) do associate with them, but i do how ever train my student in a Martial Arts that has roots in other older styles. Some as old as 2,000 years and because of this there is also a certain Warrior Spirit that i train them in, that can be hard too understand without a prober background......

    Sincerly yours,

    Jan Jensen
    www.fma-arnis.dk

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    try wushu summer class.. learn chinese kung fu @ samantabhadra institute
    we offer beginners class and tachi classes..

    https://www.istorya.net/forums/specia...mer-class.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by manhattan1 View Post
    Nice topic: "Schools for Martial Arts"........
    I think it will always be a little difficult as complete new beginner too know what School and Instructor too pick, many talk and talk, besides using flashy movement that might look great.....But sometimes its just too make more money for the instructor and it might not work in real, so as a new beginner one has too pick carefully....

    I think the best way too do it is first find out do you want Sports (tournaments and such) or Self Defense (dirty tricks and not Sports)? After you know this you can start looking for some schools in the local area where you live, you might as well have as close too where you live as possible and its a good idea too try out a few places so you get a feeling if you like the instructor(s) and/or club(s) (not to try to judge style so much, since that takes years)....
    This way you should be able too pick a place you like.....

    We within JKJ-Balintawak try too share a kind of friendship between both students and students too instructor, since we as instructors share many secrets with our students, we train together and become better Martial Artist together.....So too us there is a kind of friendship (or brotherhood), we share together as Martial Artists........
    This is why we also seek serious students, since we take them serious, we don't want people who cross-train or is not serious about learning the style.....

    JKJ-Balintawak is a mix of Balintawak and parts from The Dacayana Eskrima System, Bujinkan (NInjutsu) and Sports Ju-Jutsu....Its aimed at the streets and too be used as Self defense, not as a Sports.....

    Sincerly yours,

    Jan Jensen
    www.fma-arnis.dk
    Wow this is very nice... From where I've been to its very different; my instructor teaches you only a couple of techniques for a session of 4hours or so with each a P100. It's more of a business there than of a learning. But of coarse you learn "all hard work brings a profit" though your improvement will be up to you (and it is slow – I learn more from researching the net my self than going to the gym), but the point is that martial arts should not be a business but as a kind of brotherhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormghost View Post
    Wow this is very nice... From where I've been to its very different; my instructor teaches you only a couple of techniques for a session of 4hours or so with each a P100. It's more of a business there than of a learning. But of coarse you learn "all hard work brings a profit" though your improvement will be up to you (and it is slow – I learn more from researching the net my self than going to the gym), but the point is that martial arts should not be a business but as a kind of brotherhood.
    Only a couple of techniques for a session of 4 hrs....well not unless you are all just standing around without breaking a sweat, then I guess that you are training under a "traditional" instructor. Traditional martial arts practice consists of dozens of repetitions of a single technique until you're either bored to tears or collapse in exhaustion.

    4 hrs. for only 100pesos? I won't call it a profitable business for an instructor to invest his knowledge, time and effort. Unless of course if practice consists only of lots of talk and little physical effort.

    You're right that martial arts should not being a business, but then there is no such thing as a free lunch. Everyone has to pay for anything in one form or another. As a kind of brotherhood? If you're looking for "brotherhood", martial arts clubs do not have an exclusive domain on that. You can find that in your kanto barkada without wasting too much effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h3lios View Post
    Only a couple of techniques for a session of 4 hrs....well not unless you are all just standing around without breaking a sweat, then I guess that you are training under a "traditional" instructor. Traditional martial arts practice consists of dozens of repetitions of a single technique until you're either bored to tears or collapse in exhaustion.

    4 hrs. for only 100pesos? I won't call it a profitable business for an instructor to invest his knowledge, time and effort. Unless of course if practice consists only of lots of talk and little physical effort.

    You're right that martial arts should not being a business, but then there is no such thing as a free lunch. Everyone has to pay for anything in one form or another. As a kind of brotherhood? If you're looking for "brotherhood", martial arts clubs do not have an exclusive domain on that. You can find that in your kanto barkada without wasting too much effort.
    "As iron sharpens iron, so as man sharpens another man" No kanto barkada can help you grow sharper. And if I want talk much wise will it be for me to gossip all day.

    You see, its not the whole 4hours that you are goanna do your lessons. The instructor will be arriving about 2 hours late of your session (fortunately the dojo is in the corner of a body building gym). And when he arrives, minus the stretching and jogging time. Then drills, and some are individually thought(not all learn fast, so if there is a lot of students you could just imagine the big bite of time...). And finally the sparring. It's not that hard considering that you land a hit, the round will be halted, yours is the point. Then the next round.
    The training is not profitable. And the instructor is overpaid

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormghost View Post
    You see, its not the whole 4hours that you are goanna do your lessons. The instructor will be arriving about 2 hours late of your session (fortunately the dojo is in the corner of a body building gym). And when he arrives, minus the stretching and jogging time. Then drills, and some are individually thought(not all learn fast, so if there is a lot of students you could just imagine the big bite of time...). And finally the sparring. It's not that hard considering that you land a hit, the round will be halted, yours is the point. Then the next round.
    The training is not profitable. And the instructor is overpaid
    Hmm...dili kaha sayo ra ka kaayo mo-abot sa dojo? Well typically, most of the MA classes i've seen are only 2hrs long.

    From the way you tell it, the sparring portion is using a point system format. Well, that's usually the case in a typical MA dojo. Are there higher ranked students? Maybe they can oblige you in some no-holds barred sparring session. In the old times (making my age obvious), the term used is "research". Better still, ask your instructor to oblige you for some "research". Don't forget to share to us what happens next.

    I don't think the instructor is overpaid. In most cases, an instructor's share of the fee is only about 40%. Most of the money you paid go to the gym management. Also, at today's prices, 100pesos per session for MA lessons is about average. Some even charge 150 to 200 for 1 hr. Class-A instructors (with high credentials) charge 1,000pesos for a 1-hour session. As with all things, you get what you pay for.

    Quote Originally Posted by stormghost View Post
    "As iron sharpens iron, so as man sharpens another man" No kanto barkada can help you grow sharper. And if I want talk much wise will it be for me to gossip all day.
    Brotherhood has nothing to do with sharpening your skills...except maybe for emotional support, social acceptance, best friends forever, shoulder to cry on.... that seems a bit unnecessary for someone as tough and manly as you. Just kidding. Don't take it too seriously.

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    I might be wrong about the "you get what you pay for" thing.

    Although that may be the rule but there are exceptions. I started out in a club that charged only 50pesos monthly. training was 3x a week so that is about 4pesos per session. To give you an idea how much that was worth then, jeepney fare was only about 1.50pesos at that time (if I remember it right). barbeque at larsians was less than 2 pesos. Other martial arts clubs (which I later learned their instructors were white/green belt drop-outs of the club I joined) charged an astonishing 300 pesos per month. I know because I went around asking different clubs to join and some of my classmates in school joined those clubs.

    I didn't know it then, but the club I joined in for only 50pesos per month, turned out that the instructors there has the highest credentials any martial artist have at that time, not only in Cebu but the whole country. The training? The best in that particular martial art anywhere in the Philippines.

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