FREE MASONRY - the Principles

[mosimos]

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@ MOSIMOS ....

Â* Â* How did you know that CATHOLIC FREEMASONS dont believe in JESUS CHRIST ? Of course other members who are BUDDHIST or MUSLIMS dont believed in HIM . Commonsense `pre . Speak only a factual claim only if you are a member itself otherwise make it an opinion because you have do have basis from an article in the net but dont be too blinded of its accuracy and legitimacy .

Cmon man, of course I was not referring to Buddhists and Muslims when I say being a Mason is irreconcilable with being a Catholic.

I said Catholic.

What proof do I need? I have friends who are members of that group and they have something in common.

1. They are Gnostic
2. They dont believe Christ God the Son.
3. They hate priests, bishops and the Pope

[mosimos]

naa diay ni nga threadÂ*

i am a member of the International Order of DeMolay since 1996

...Masons are usually the Dad(papa,tatay) of DeMolays

meaning after ka mag DeMolay pwede ka mo proceed para mag Mason...and pwede mag Senior DeMolay sad...

hmm..so we have someone who's really into this thingy

@Archer...how about you give us your views regarding freemansory.

International Order of DeMolaY. Named after Jacques DeMolay, the last leader of the Knights Templar before they were disbanded.Â*

Jacques DeMolay was burned at the stake for heresy upon orders of King Philip IV of France. Pope Clement V, the weak Pope at Avignon reluctantly concur with the decision of King Philip IV to execute Jacques DeMolay.Â* While he was dying DeMolay cursed the King and the Pope that he will bring them to the Tribunal of God.

Within a year, both the King and the Pope died. Whatever it is, Jacques DeMolay curse came true.

DeMolays and Masons have strong bond. The Knights Templar is the precursor of modern day Freemasons.

[Freeza]

@ MOSIMOS ....

Â* Â* How did you know that CATHOLIC FREEMASONS dont believe in JESUS CHRIST ? Of course other members who are BUDDHIST or MUSLIMS dont believed in HIM . Commonsense `pre . Speak only a factual claim only if you are a member itself otherwise make it an opinion because you have do have basis from an article in the net but dont be too blinded of its accuracy and legitimacy .

Cmon man, of course I was not referring to Buddhists and Muslims when I say being a Mason is irreconcilable with being a Catholic.Â*

I said Catholic.

What proof do I need?Â* I have friends who are members of that group and they have something in common.

1.Â* They are Gnostic
2. They dont believe Christ God the Son.
3. They hate priests, bishops and the Pope

Mosimos your a very intelligent man, though im reading your views especially on youre clear dominace on catholic ,religious threads especially the history of cardinals who serve here in cebu thats a very useful info,Ps please try to make it as concise as possibl, but sometimes you are just to Â*eager to verify your beliefs but less inclined to seek evidence that might disprove them so you will have a balance preconceptions. Â*like the words hate, dont believe....

unless we have Â*a Â*freemason here which we dont have who could give us direct information we could all be wrong on the accuracy of our informations and judgements.

[Archer sensAtion]

naa diay ni nga threadÂ*

i am a member of the International Order of DeMolay since 1996

...Masons are usually the Dad(papa,tatay) of DeMolays

meaning after ka mag DeMolay pwede ka mo proceed para mag Mason...and pwede mag Senior DeMolay sad...

hmm..so we have someone who's really into this thingy

@Archer...how about you give us your views regarding freemansory.

for me...ders nothing wrong man wid free masonry...anti-christ? nuhhh... kinsay anti-christ?...ang cgi push ug mga speculations about Masons...

as long as you believe in God...way mawala sa imo life... mo abot ba gud ko ug 10 years as a DeMolay or my dad 12 years as a Mason...if wala mi ni tuo ug God...we pray, we live a simple kind of life...

[Archer sensAtion]

@ MOSIMOS ....

Â* Â* How did you know that CATHOLIC FREEMASONS dont believe in JESUS CHRIST ? Of course other members who are BUDDHIST or MUSLIMS dont believed in HIM . Commonsense `pre . Speak only a factual claim only if you are a member itself otherwise make it an opinion because you have do have basis from an article in the net but dont be too blinded of its accuracy and legitimacy .

Cmon man, of course I was not referring to Buddhists and Muslims when I say being a Mason is irreconcilable with being a Catholic.Â*

I said Catholic.

What proof do I need?Â* I have friends who are members of that group and they have something in common.

1.Â* They are Gnostic
2. They dont believe Christ God the Son.
3. They hate priests, bishops and the Pope

ayaw sad tawn ng HATE oi... wa bya mi nag hate nila...sila man ang nag hate sa amo...kung unsa ila i-sulti palapos nlang namo sa dungan...and they are very agressive...nga mawala jud ang Masons...dili man mi religious society nga makig kompetnsya nila...like some other religions...di mi mang-invite...

we dont believe in Christ? how come?....

hey! don't hate the player, hate the game :mrgreen:

[mosimos]

naa diay ni nga threadÂ*

i am a member of the International Order of DeMolay since 1996

...Masons are usually the Dad(papa,tatay) of DeMolays

meaning after ka mag DeMolay pwede ka mo proceed para mag Mason...and pwede mag Senior DeMolay sad...

hmm..so we have someone who's really into this thingy

@Archer...how about you give us your views regarding freemansory.

for me...ders nothing wrong man wid free masonry...anti-christ? nuhhh... kinsay anti-christ?...ang cgi push ug mga speculations about Masons...

as long as you believe in God...way mawala sa imo life... mo abot ba gud ko ug 10 years as a DeMolay or my dad 12 years as a Mason...if wala mi ni tuo ug God...we pray, we live a simple kind of life...

Who is your God? I know that your answer is that its not Jesus Christ.

[BaDBoY]

[me=BaDBoY]is watching this thread closely...[/me]

[slakker]

buanga no, anti-christ diay atong national hero... anti-christ sad diay ang atong gobyerno kay mu-recognize man atong gobyerno sa tanan religion...

[mosimos]

Yes, Rizal was anti Christ. The government is another matter. Its a non sectarian institution and unless it committed acts in contrast with Catholic beliefs its not an anti Christian entity.

YOu wont believe it becuase you dont know. Ask a Mason whom they believe as God and they will give you vague answers. Answers lik T.G.A.O.T.U. will ring. Tyhe Great Architect of the Universe.

Its not Jesus Christ. Its something else. Because to summarize their belief, you can make yourself like God, because God is in you. YOu can be like Christ because the Christ lives in us.

How can that be? We are sinful people. And I cant imagine a person transforming himself like God on his own merit. Lisud man gani kla mag binootan, mahimo ka na ba hinoon nga Ginoo. Our Lord Jesus said., "YOu dont choose me, I CHOOSE YOU. So its only by the grace of God that we will be transformed into better persons.

Tsk. This reminded of the devil who told Eve, eat this fruit for it will give you knowledge." The same deception is used to mislead people into believing they can be like God. .

[slakker]

Yes, Rizal was anti Christ. The government is another matter. Its a non sectarian institution and unless it committed acts in contrast with Catholic beliefs its not an anti Christian entity.

ah ok, so kanang mga freemasons, sectarian institution diay na sila? daghana diay mga anti-christ nga musulod gihapon sa simbahan noh...