The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[pakinimo]

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Culture has changed over the past thousand years. Punishments were different. Treatment to different sexes and races were different. The bible is dated to fit the time of the past.

Q1: Should we relive what the (outdated morality) bible says?

If yes, Q1a: Then why are you (generally christians) not living it? e.g. stoning criminals
If no, Q1b: Then how do you define modern christianity? Should the bible's outdated teachings be thrown away and replaced?

[raissah]

@marius mao lage boss mar. naa daghan issues ang RCC, but then again naa sad daghan issues and laing nga church. lain2 ug mga issue pero maka disappoint lang ang uban nga RCC kay mag sigeg panghilabot sa issues sa state/government. Pareha sa among syudad, laliman kag gihatagan ra gani sa usa ka DATU nga politiko ug nindot nga sakyanan ang pari kay padulong election, hala ka diha kada wali niya kay mang daot sa kontra sa politiko nga nihatag niyag sakyanan. Ang kontra kay dli katoliko (kauban namog simbahan)

Kulang tingalig training tong paria oi. Hasta gud mga katoliko nag yawyaw ug nganung nag labot2 tong paria. Kay mao diay, gihatagan diay ug nindot nga sakyanan. Pagka nlang jud!

[slabdans]

next questin pls Lol

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Si Job nga katong buotan kaayo nga gi byaan niya sa kamot ni Satanas over and over again kay gihagit siya ni Taning to make a bet?... hahaha

Hehe wooo im scared.. if this is what you say to get people to listen to you, then no thanks man.. The only thing that this verse shows is the kind of person you are inside..

Gibyaan sa Ginoo? Wala sya byae.. Gihagit ni taning yes.. nag bet sila? wala.. I don't know diin na nimo nakuha nang storyaa.. second hand information? mas maayo ikaw mismo mobasa.

huh? Gipakita lang na dira sa Ginoo kun unsa ang tao ka layo niya. Imo man gud gilimitahan ang Ginoo sa imong post gisulod nimo sa standard sa tao ang Ginoo..

[Jhared]

Gibyaan sa Ginoo? Wala sya byae.. Gihagit ni taning yes.. nag bet sila? wala.. I don't know diin na nimo nakuha nang storyaa.. second hand information? mas maayo ikaw mismo mobasa.

The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.”

sa bisaya pa bay, cge buhata imong gusto buhaton ni Job, ayaw lang sya patya, gibyaan niya sa kamot ni taning... all because gihagit siya ni taning, and im not talking about bet nga mag pustaanay ug kwarta if that's how you understand betting,.. first hand information bay, if you read your bible you'd know, but obviously you did not even care looking at your bible before you replied.. and yes i read your bible more than you have..

huh? Gipakita lang na dira sa Ginoo kun unsa ang tao ka layo niya. Imo man gud gilimitahan ang Ginoo sa imong post gisulod nimo sa standard sa tao ang Ginoo..

Hahaha ryt after gihagit nsad siya, nanghambog dayon siya.. which only shows how febble your god is., letting his actions be controlled by his puny subjects.,

[Jhared]

On the contrary, he saves the sinners and those who needs saving. Lain sad ug i save ang wla manginahanglan. Kay kung ang mga nakasala iya dayung sungon, aw wa nah! empyerno na tanan kay murag kita man sigurong tanan nasala, bro.

Empyerno jud ta tanan kay maksasala man ta.. i mean how would you know kinsay malangit ug kinsay ma impyerno..

[psychologic]

plus walay beer og walay aircon.. and you will be there for eternity.. for atheist question lang,. WHAT IF hell is True? didn't you reflect about it a bit?, its not a laughing matter when it comes to eternity,. being a believer has anything to gain, whether afterlife is true or not,. but being outside the light is everything to lose..

what if raman d i na.... eternity? eternity doesnt exist.....

[Alramzz]

hahaha.. swak kaau ni sa Job chapter 38 - 40.. “Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge?" ug tapuson ug “Would you discredit my justice? Would you condemn me to justify yourself? Do you have an arm like God’s, and can your voice thunder like his? Then adorn yourself with glory and splendor, and clothe yourself in honor and majesty. Unleash the fury of your wrath, look at all who are proud and bring them low, look at all who are proud and humble them, crush the wicked where they stand. Bury them all in the dust together; shroud their faces in the grave. Then I myself will admit to you that your own right hand can save you.

The book of Job really has something to say about this whiner's.

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what if raman d i na.... eternity? eternity doesnt exist.....

ok broder,. their is only 2 side of coin lang man either your right or im right,. heheheh

[noy]

so imong pasabot, like sa imong example lang na sa Flood, is giluwas sila sa inyong Ginoo thru death ?? so, unsa paman ang point na mag save cya ug mga believers na kadtong naa sa arch, na iya raman diay gihapon giluwas thru death ang mga tao na wala mutuo ?? so, it's kinda redundant na iyang gibuhat ....

bai, imagine kung pila ka years ang difference sa paghinulat nilang noah ug kadtong mga nangamatay sa lunop..sa ilang kaluwasan..
silang noah, probaby gagmay rang paghuwat after sila namatay..
kadto tawn sila..nagpa abut pa ni Jesus..

wala pa gani natao si abraham..sugod na silag huwat..Lol
kita gani ultimo malate lang ug gamay atong mga kasabut..medyo sapoton na gani ta...unsa nalang kaha ang nilibo ka mga tuig bai?

of course wala pa to sila malangait 'cause nothing defiled shall enter heaven..
wala pud to sila na impierno kay gisangyawan paman ni Jesus usa siya nabanhaw..
so naa to sila sa purgatory..i'm not entirely sure if unsay naa ngadto but it's like hell daw nga temporary because our souls are being purged for our sins...so that's the difference..it's actually a huge difference bai if you think about it.

ayaw pag sulti ug ing-ana bai noy, kay imong pasabot ana, na wala gihapon ka kabalo kung unsay sayop ug unsay sakto ... dili na mau na bisan obvious na kau na sayop na cya, sama sa pag patay ug pag rape, kay mag duha2x gihapon ka na wala ka kabalo na sayop ba gyud na ..

akong pasabut bai..simple ra jud kaayo...

kung imung idefine ang morality sa Ginoo base from a human perspective of morality it would be like trying to solve a calculus problem using basic mathematics..di jud na magtakdo.

sige,example ta ha...

human perspective:

problems, struggles, hardships..
bati jud ni para sa tao..
kung kita pabut.on di jud unta ta dapat muagi ani kay sakit2x lang sa ulo ug dughan...

divine perspective..
those things are necessary to make us better people...

maski ikaw, di ka ganahan ug mga problema pero you can never deny the fact that if you hadn't gone through those hardships you wouldn't have known specific maturity, wisdom and learned this life's hardest lessons...

same thing with God's morals..

mao tubaga to aong pangutana bai...

supposedly kamatayon ra ang paagi para ang usa ka mangtas nga tao makakita ug chance for salvation..esp kadtong mga tao sa lunop wala pa sa messianic age..
so kung kuhaon ilang kinabuhi(whom God owns by the way) for a chance of salvaton..so immoral gihapun?

mao nay giingun sa Ginoo bai.. "your thoughts are not my thoughts"...

kung parehas pa ug huna-huna ang Ginoo nato...asa kaha to munaog si Kristo diri para lang sa atong kaluwasan? sus..wala unta tay manunubos..may gani..dili prehas ug huna-huna ang Ginoo nato..hehehehe...

bai di kaayo ko katubag karun kay weekend..family time..Lol

[noy]

What you are basically saying is "follow the rules/law regardless of what is right"

instead of doing what is right regardless of the rules. This is what religion is promoting - stop questioning the rules.

Bsag sayop to iyang pag insulto which is against the rules, your statement about following the rules before talking about morality is really faulty.

Speaking of rules, my response is OT, you may disregard it it's just a comment

what i am saying is follow the forum rules..no more , no less...

sa imung gisulti, tabla ra ka ug niingun nga sayop ang forum rules pero angay sundon...kay rules man...LOL

asay insakto? pagsunod sa forum rules regarding pag respeto sa panahom sa uban? or kanang gibuhat sa imung migo nga atheist..
maski pag mu agree ka sa iyang mga punto kay atheist man pud ka pero isip tao..maka ingun ba ka nga insakto iyang paagi sa pag istorya? that my friend is what i mean by not following the forum rule ug dili ang pag criticize sa amung pagtuo..pwede man ka mu question..just make sure you do it in a respectful manner..as the forum rules suggest..

mao ingun ko nga unya na ta maghisgut ug morality2x kung kabalo na ta mosunod sa simple nga balaod sa forum..kay kung tao maayo ug sense of morality..kabalo siya mosunod ug balaod...
example, tax...kabalo ta nga naay mangorakot sa atong tax, pero kasabut pud ta sa purpose sa tax..
although bug.at sa atong buot..bayad gihapun ta ug tax..

i hope you see my point..

and yes you're OT