FREE MASONRY - the Principles

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No religion can save us . Even though well we lived our lives , GOD is the ultimate JUDGE wether be it God , Allah , Budhha etc .

Back to the topic ..... FREEMASONRY makes GOODMEN to BETTERMEN .

[Dr Mj]

There are only 2 major requirements to be a mason...
1. one must believe in God
2. one must believe in brotherhood

Revocation of Masonic Rights and Previledges
1. murder without valid cause
2. treason

[geoseph]

afraid? i think the church is not afraid...they have rules to follow just like any religious institutions & organizations...just like these cases:

Hi giddyboy bai, that statement does not say that any church is afraid of the Masons, what that meant was that they fear for the members losing their faith in their church.

(1) if u r a catholic priest, you should be celibate until death..if a priest wants to go outside priesthood & marry, he should get dispensation from the Pope.

I agree that any organization has to have rules, and members are expected to comply, unless perhaps, it is unethical, unjust, or even illegal.

(2) if u r a catholic follower and u go against the church teachings & principles, u will be ex-communicated.

What you said reminds me of the statement, "It's our way or no way."

If I remember it correctly, I was told that Vatican II no longer requires anyone to be Catholic to enter heaven. If true, ex-communication does not automatically mean one goes to hell (by Catholic standards, that is). More importantly, being non-Catholic does not equate with being evil (it is not defined that way).

naa ko priest uncle that went very vocal against the catholic church celibacy issue...u know wat happened? pgkamatay hapit wa malubong sa catholic cemetery. maygani nadala ra ug hangyo...

Priests are human too. They are entitled to their own minds and hearts. But, it might have been best if he kept his objections only within the hierarchy bec. its an internal issue (only applicable to priests).

I don't think where one is buried has any bearing at all to one's afterlife. What might have bearing on the afterlife though is the practice discrimination (judging others when it's not for us to do so).

[giddyboy]

Hi giddyboy bai, that statement does not say that any church is afraid of the Masons, what that meant was that they fear for the members losing their faith in their church.

ok...dats wat i meant also.

If I remember it correctly, I was told that Vatican II no longer requires anyone to be Catholic to enter heaven. If true, ex-communication does not automatically mean one goes to hell (by Catholic standards, that is). More importantly, being non-Catholic does not equate with being evil (it is not defined that way).

yup.

Priests are human too. They are entitled to their own minds and hearts. But, it might have been best if he kept his objections only within the hierarchy bec. its an internal issue (only applicable to priests).

he (my uncle) was already a married priest, properly dispensed by the Pope. so it's not already an internal issue but a public issue...The married priests in the Phils. formed an association sometime 2 decades ago and one of their goals was to lobby against "celibacy" which was formed into law by the Vatican II. They insisted that celibacy is already an obsolete law and discriminatory. if i remember it right, catholic priests in some parts of europe are allowed to be married, while priests in some parts like Phils. are not.

I don't think where one is buried has any bearing at all to one's afterlife. What might have bearing on the afterlife though is the practice discrimination (judging others when it's not for us to do so).

mao btaw...pero ang point tingali is napalit na nila ang yuta sa cemetery...so asa man nimo ilubong nga wa pa man to nauso ang cremation sauna? hehe

now back to the topic:

it is normal for a person to find affiliation to a "brotherhood" group or organization for so many reasons...

you could join the ff.:

(1) social fraternities & sororities - alpha phi delta, alpha gamma rho, alpha chi rho...
(2) service fraternities & sororities - alpha kappa rho, alpha phi omega...
(3) professional fraternities - scarab, rho epsilon, sigma phi delta...
(4) honor societies - alpha gamma sigma, alpha delta mu...
(5) secular service organizations - Llions club, rotary club, optimist club, kiwanis...
(6) secret societies - skull & bones society, flat hat club...
(7) friendly societies - knights of columbus, independent order of foresters...
(8.) freemasonry- the shriners, order of the eastern star, scottish rite...
(9) mystical societies - rosicrucian order...

and a lot more...

[geoseph]

he (my uncle) was already a married priest, properly dispensed by the Pope. so it's not already an internal issue but a public issue...The married priests in the Phils. formed an association sometime 2 decades ago and one of their goals was to lobby against "celibacy" which was formed into law by the Vatican II. They insisted that celibacy is already an obsolete law and discriminatory. if i remember it right, catholic priests in some parts of europe are allowed to be married, while priests in some parts like Phils. are not.

Giddyboy bai, thanks. Sorry about that. I thought he was still inside when he was vocal against it.

Lucky some European priests, in that case. They have an option, should they happen to fall in love, an option the other priests don't have.

mao btaw...pero ang point tingali is napalit na nila ang yuta sa cemetery...so asa man nimo ilubong nga wa pa man to nauso ang cremation sauna? hehe

Paet gyud kung wala pa sila nisugot. Creepy man pud siguro kung murag simbahan, sa likod sa balay ilubong. =)

[seven_segment]

very dangerous...

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@ GIDDYBOY ...

I dont think you cant be a Shriner unless you are a Mason already . Order of the Free and Accepted Masons is already the fraternity commonly known as the FREEMASONS .

Regarding also Knights of Columbus , Rosicrucian , Opus Dei etc , these are what we call CONFRATERNITIES . Fraternities of the religious order .

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Back when I was still knocking the door about 10 years ago , a lot of people wanted to join the Craft for there own personal benefits . In the military alone , a lot of members wanted to use that oppurtunity for advancement purposes because daghan Freemasons na high ranking officers in all the departments .

Same sa private sector and civilian environment , daghan nag hilom hilom lang na Freemasons who are employers , head honchos of certain companies and again to use it as an oppurtunity to advance , promoted , get hired etc . I find it wrong but then again , the Senior Freemasons didnt let it happen . It contradicts the way of life .

[geoseph]

very dangerous...

An appeal to fear (also called argumentum ad metam or argumentum in terrorem) is a logical fallacy in which a person attempts to create support for his or her idea by increasing fear and prejudice...

This fallacy has the following argument form:

Either P or Q
Q is fearsome
Therefore, P is true.

The argument is invalid. The appeal to emotion is used in exploiting existing fears to create support for the speaker's proposal, namely P. Also, often the false dilemma fallacy is involved, suggesting Q is the proposed idea's sole alternative.
[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_fear ]
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"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

from Franklin D. Roosevelt first inaugural address (1933 - during the great depression)
[ http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5057/ ]
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Remember when once as a child, in particular, we had an experience of fear (mumu, ungo, strangers...). Our mind exaggerated what was imagined, only to turn out false later on. Fear has a funny way of magnifying whatever enters our mind beyond proportions. Only when the fear has subsided do we start to become objective again. As long as there is a little tinge of fear, I'm not sure one is objective enough.

And yet, once a fear is learned, it somehow lives on (hibernate), waiting to be triggered again. Fear is the gremlin in our minds. The only way I know to conquer it is to face it. Just that, facing it, at least in our minds, can (gradually) regain us courage. It may also help to write it down, and check the reasoning, or rather "justifications" behind it, if these be valid or not. It might be interesting to discover how one's mind works under fear, and the things one "justifies" one's self with. One just might find cause to laugh at one's self.

I believe that to dare (against fear, not against the law) bec. one has to, and to reason are some of the marks of a mature person - someone who can experience life as it truly is.

What I do not mean though is violate one's conscience or intuition. These are there for a reason, and I believe it's wise to listen.

[geoseph]

John 7:24 - Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.

[giddyboy]

@ GIDDYBOY ...
I dont think you cant be a Shriner unless you are a Mason already . Order of the Free and Accepted Masons is already the fraternity commonly known as the FREEMASONS .
Regarding also Knights of Columbus , Rosicrucian , Opus Dei etc , these are what we call CONFRATERNITIES . Fraternities of the religious order .

well, according to wikipedia regarding fraternities, fraternal organizations, and service organizations:

(1) Shriners belong to Freemasonry. Freemasonry is a fraternal organisation that arose from obscure origins. Shriners was established in New York City in 1870, is an appendant body to Freemasonry.

(2) Knights of Columbus belongs to Friendly Societies (sometimes called a mutual society, benevolent society or fraternal organization). It is the world's largest Roman Catholic fraternal service organization.

(3) Rosicrucian Order belongs to Mystical Societies. Rosicrucian teachings originated in the so-called mystery schools of Ancient Egypt.


There is a great deal of overlap between the terms Friendly Society and fraternal organization. Most mystical organizations are also fraternal.

(4) Opus Dei is NOT a fraternal organization. It is NOT even a confraternity. Opus Dei is an organization within the Catholic Church. As such, it shares the theology of the Catholic Church.

(5) Lions Club is a service club organization. It is the world's largest secular service organization.


SO, IF U R A CATHOLIC, it is always best to join organizations that are secular, or, Catholic in nature.
Secularity is the state of being separate from religion.