FREE MASONRY - the Principles

[giddyboy]

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hahaha way kalahi-an ang mason ug jaycees, lions clube etc.

pareho ra na sila...ang kalahi-an ang name ra...

ang akoa point is mas klaro pa na ang mga lions, rotary, jaycees ky registered man cla sa SEC as legit, civic-minded organization...

kanang mga underground, shadowy & very secretive freemasonry, pass lng ko ana...

[pijavier]

Dili ko mo agree nga parehas ra ang mason sa jaycees, lions club, rotary etc.

As far as i know, layoooooo ra gyud kau.

sakto ka bro giddyboy, registered sa SEC ang mga civic groups. and DILI sila secret. what's with the secret hoola all about. if they are for good and want to do good, why stay a secret?

Is there something to hide? Is there something that needs to be kept?

[knockout]

ana man gyud na bro, secret man gyud na, kay ma ilhan nimo nga nag anam anam na sila ug exist kay daghan na mga tima ilhan, like sa mga new plate numbers sa cars, naa na obelisk nga symbol, mga places like diha sa corner mabini ug colon street, then naa sad obelisk sa katipunan corner tress de abril street, sa labangon.
according sa book nga akong na basa, kana daw obelisk, is a sign nga we are existing in this place, there are many of us belong in this place.

[pijavier]

Yes Bro knockout. ako gyud na gisuroy bro. naa baya gyud. ang usa gani sa mga architect nga nag himo parenti namo. lingawa lagi... maabot ang time cguro dili na na sila mag secret and if nay mga gubot, i -disown na sila sa ilang mga leaders and mo branch out, mao ra gihapon.....

[balatucan]

Dili ko mo agree nga parehas ra ang mason sa jaycees, lions club, rotary etc.

As far as i know, layoooooo ra gyud kau.

sakto ka bro giddyboy, registered sa SEC ang mga civic groups. and DILI sila secret. what's with the secret hoola all about. if they are for good and want to do good, why stay a secret?

Is there something to hide? Is there something that needs to be kept?

I would like to correct the misconceptions here. Masonry is not a secret society but rather a society with secrets and this two phrase are totally different.

Its their secrets that we outsiders are deeply concerned about.

[pijavier]

Thanks for correcting balatucan, that's what i meant. Yet still why the secrets? the question remains unaswered...

[giddyboy]

Dili ko mo agree nga parehas ra ang mason sa jaycees, lions club, rotary etc.

As far as i know, layoooooo ra gyud kau.

sakto ka bro giddyboy, registered sa SEC ang mga civic groups. and DILI sila secret. what's with the secret hoola all about. if they are for good and want to do good, why stay a secret?

Is there something to hide? Is there something that needs to be kept?

i stand corrected bro...Lions Club, Rotary & Jaycees are no freemasonry orgs..THEY ARE INTERNATIONAL "SERVICE" ORGANIZATIONS & holds NO SECRETS whatsoever...
i've been a LEO Club (teen version of Lions Club) member before and our international motto is always, "WE SERVE".
we don't have secret meetings, secret handshakes, secret memberships, or anything secret for that matter.

all our community projects like medical missions, feeding programs, tree-planting, waiting sheds, garbage cans, book donations, liga-liga, diskoral, etc...are openly known to the public...

that is why i don't buy those shadowy & secretive freemasonry orgs coz what's important for me is to join as a bonafide member of these civic organizations inorder to help & serve the community, and at the same time build up your leadership...

ANYWAYS, we cant blame people joining freemasonry coz its a right to each and everyone...importante lng is we follow the law & no rights are violated. BESIDES, ANYTHING THAT MYSTIFIES us is food to our desires & imagination...

FOR ALL, here is the Lions Club definition link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_Clubs_International

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Masons will not confirm and most of the time they deny their secrets. If ever their secrets are partly revealed, they usually say, dont believe it because if there is a credible source, its no other than them. But they will not tell you, so how could you know.

And you just contradicted yourself . What are your claims basis other than being denied by a MASON of your ACCUSATIONS ? Hahaha !!

If someone who squealed is a former Mason, they will discredit him. Theres one rule there. PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.

Other than people who are PROPAGANDIST , there is no reason for an EX MASON or who got booted from the craft to SQUEAL anything other than the secrets but then , what will he gain from it kung buhaton na ? There are millions of speculations already about the revealed secrets kuno , unsa ug kinsay TUOHAN nila ang main question .

So if you there, read and discovered something about Masonry, believe it. Most of the time, its true.

From personal experience eh ?

I would like to correct the misconceptions here. Masonry is not a secret society but rather a society with secrets and this two phrase are totally different.

Its their secrets that we outsiders are deeply concerned about.

First , you dont say MASONRY but instead FREEMASONRY . It is misleading sa uban mo basa kay MASONRY is totally different from FREEMASONRY .

And I would really appreciate that youve heard that from me when you are still MOSIMOS back then . Anyways , what made you say that you are DEEPLY CONCERNED ? Is it because of what youve heard and what youve read ? Most of the time , its not true lols .


TO ALL :

- FREEMASONRY does not need no SEC registration to make it comparable to other organizations . FREEMASONRY is ddeper than being an ORGANIZATION , its a BROTHERHOOD of GOODWILLED GENTLEMEN .

- If nobody still knew about it , only the SHRINERS of the Order of Freemasonry are conducting in the whole world a hospital that caters to BURNED VICTIMS for free . No questions asked , bisan dili ka related nor affiliated sa Craft , as long as BURN VICTIM ka . Research about the Shriners guys and learn something new .

- Everyone has secrets , why is there a need to know their secrets ? Why are we so concerned about it ? What if the Masons would like to know the secrets of your identities , yoiur *** life , your love life , you problems in life , dark past ... what does that constitute to ? Its something nobody needs to know right ?

- Thats the reason why NON MASONS are so intrigued thus TO KNOW ABOUT IT ... you'll normally see it also in license plate holders the phrase 2B1,ASK1

[knockout]

TO ALL :

- FREEMASONRY does not need no SEC registration to make it comparable to other organizations . FREEMASONRY is ddeper than being an ORGANIZATION , its a BROTHERHOOD of GOODWILLED GENTLEMEN .

- If nobody still knew about it , only the SHRINERS of the Order of Freemasonry are conducting in the whole world a hospital that caters to BURNED VICTIMS for free . No questions asked , bisan dili ka related nor affiliated sa Craft , as long as BURN VICTIM ka . Research about the Shriners guys and learn something new .

- Everyone has secrets , why is there a need to know their secrets ? Why are we so concerned about it ? What if the Masons would like to know the secrets of your identities , yoiur *** life , your love life , you problems in life , dark past ... what does that constitute to ? Its something nobody needs to know right ?

- Thats the reason why NON MASONS are so intrigued thus TO KNOW ABOUT IT ... you'll normally see it also in license plate holders the phrase 2B1,ASK1

Bro, duda ko murag dili mani ikaw nag post ani? hehe.
na shock lang ko sa imong post karon nga grabe ka poor kaayo. then very immaterial.
kay sa before nimo nga mga post bro, bilib kaayo ko nimo, maayo kaayo ka manabi, then bright kaayo akong pag basa sa imong mga post. pero karon murag naa lang ko comments gamay bro ha?

how could you say FREEMASONRY is ddeper than being an ORGANIZATION, wherein even our government SEC registration wala man gani? so you mean, occult gyud diay ni? kuyawan man sad ta ani.

then another thing, ayaw i divert ang topic sa SHRINERS of the Order of Freemasonry, kay natural every organization naa gyud na mga maayo kintahay nga ika tabang sa mata sa mga tao. aron ingnon ba nga maayo kintahay nga grupo. bisag sa uban gud organization, even mga fraternities.

another thing bro, diri gyud ko na kurat sa imong gi ingon:
Everyone has secrets , why is there a need to know their secrets ? Why are we so concerned about it ? What if the Masons would like to know the secrets of your identities , yoiur *** life , your love life , you problems in life , dark past ... what does that constitute to ? Its something nobody needs to know right ?

Bro, binata ra kaayo ni, kung ikaw man ganing nag post ani, i cant believe it. hehe.
first of all bro, thats not the issue of asking personal identities and you cannot compare that kay dili na mao ang point, so you mean sayup diay kung mo ask ta sa usa ka organization ug mga principles nila ug ilang belief?
so secret nalang tubag tanan nato ani? hehe.

bro dili plate numbers ang akong pasabot, kanang background ba sa platenumber nga naa si Jose Rizal nag barog nag talikod sa Obelisk. bro mangutana ko sa imo, kung ang new car plate karon ang background, logo sa usa sa mga riligion sa ato karon, dili kaha ka mangutana?

[pijavier]

If the Freemason isn't registered then why think of them like all the Civic Groups? colorum d ay nuon.

That's really nice the Shriners are helping out burned victims, no need to be a free mason to do that.... if you see a need and pwede ta katabang, cguro even fraternities (rival or not) and individuals need to help out.

This is the first time i have heard of the Shriners though, must be worth the research. It's a unique service though, why they help Burn Victims, just wondering why (not that its bad), I have a relative who got 2nd and 3rd degree burns in a fire and i know how life can be in a tragedy like that...

With the secrets... that still bugs me. ***, LOVE LIFE, PROBLEMS are NOT a SECRET. they are personal things limited to the individual only. now Dark Past. that is a secret.

It still does not answer why the freemasons have secrets? what are they hiding from the public?

This mystery and secrecy is what actually draws more and more people to join the "Craft - qouted from Springfield"

Also the term craft seems a bit occult.

I agree with you GIDDYBOY, there is a huge difference between service organizations.

And there is no stopping whether they do the same but it does not change the fact that they are hiding something.

I also agree with you that everyone has the right to join whatever they want and that we should respect that as long as the group they are involved in does not cause any trouble or chaos.

I also agree with you bro KNOCKOUT, sa imong gisulti karon.
Also, sakto ka, murag dli si Springfield ang nag post ky from previous posts, he is very eloquent and really sharp when expressing his thoughts. or maybe nag dali lang cguro. :mrgreen:
Bro Springfield, Merry Christmas og sa tanang tao diri ani nga thread