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  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    yes it never mention the word porgatory and i never said that it was mentioned... and ofcourse i dont take the bible literally.. please re-read my post bro..
    Naa ka point ana bro .. pero purgatory nga word naa jud na cia sa Roman Catholic nga Bible ... sa lain nga interpretation dili purgatory nakabutang ... but almost pariha .. naka read ko ana kay gi pa read kos kauban nako nga member anang Catholic Reformist .. limot lang ko sa verse ... dili sab ko interested ..

    mga Catholic defender naa cla mga verse pud sa New Testament but para nako dili jud maka manifest nga purgatory ... ang ilaha reason is parihas sa Trinity nga wala sa Bible pag interpret lang ... tinood sab na nga sa una panahon naa na cia nga Tradition ang Purgatory .... its a place jud na cia not just imaginary ...


  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Naa ka point ana bro .. pero purgatory nga word naa jud na cia sa Roman Catholic nga Bible ... sa lain nga interpretation dili purgatory nakabutang ... but almost pariha .. naka read ko ana kay gi pa read kos kauban nako nga member anang Catholic Reformist .. limot lang ko sa verse ... dili sab ko interested ..

    mga Catholic defender naa cla mga verse pud sa New Testament but para nako dili jud maka manifest nga purgatory ... ang ilaha reason is parihas sa Trinity nga wala sa Bible pag interpret lang ... tinood sab na nga sa una panahon naa na cia nga Tradition ang Purgatory .... its a place jud na cia not just imaginary ...

    mao na nkadaot sa bible lagi bro krn ky interpreted nman gud na d mana ang orig ky ang orig ky wala man at kabasa d sad ka kamao mubasa..

    nya kani rbang mginterpret lahi2x raba na ug pasabot sa ila pagbasa..

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    ngano gi kuha man na nga book( Maccabees) bro sa protestants? sakto imong gi think bro 7 books na tanan. its called the SEPTUAGINT used by the ancient jews. way before the bible was compiled... Even Jesus himself was using these Old Testament books, as they were in use among the Jews at his time. The book of Maccabees, which was written centuries before Jesus, gives clear evidence of praying for the dead.

    tell me bro unsa jud ang rason ngano gikuha mana sa mga potestante?
    Base sa akoa na hear sa mga kauban gi kuha na cia nga Books kay kana nga Books does not teach spirituality and then ang mga Author ana nga book is not Prophets nor Apostle ...

    Ephesians 2:20 informs us that the church is, "built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the chief cornerstone."

    since kana nga author sa book does not recognize nga Prophets na cla .. and then our doctrine must base on the Prophets and Apostle ... maybe cguro mao na reason gi kuha na nila ...

    Naa man daghan sa una mga Writings pa wala lang pud gi apil sa Roman Catholic ...

    Ambot ana nila kinsa sakto ana nila ,,, ambot kinsa nag puno or kinsa nag kuha sa word of God sa Bible ana nilang duha ... bawal raba na . ug asa ta tuo adto lang ta

    naa pa gani sa Orthodox mas daghan pa ug Books sa Roman Catholic ....

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Naa ka point ana bro .. pero purgatory nga word naa jud na cia sa Roman Catholic nga Bible ... sa lain nga interpretation dili purgatory nakabutang ... but almost pariha .. naka read ko ana kay gi pa read kos kauban nako nga member anang Catholic Reformist .. limot lang ko sa verse ... dili sab ko interested ..

    mga Catholic defender naa cla mga verse pud sa New Testament but para nako dili jud maka manifest nga purgatory ... ang ilaha reason is parihas sa Trinity nga wala sa Bible pag interpret lang ... tinood sab na nga sa una panahon naa na cia nga Tradition ang Purgatory .... its a place jud na cia not just imaginary ...

    Porgatory - from tha latin word "purgare" to make clean, to purify...

    This is one of many bible passages which appear to support porgatory.

    (Revelation 21:27) states that no impure person will enter heaven. "But nothing unclean shall enter it..." Some reason that if a person dies with some minor sins still on their record, then they are obviously not pure; they must go to some place to be refined until they can attain heaven.


  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Naa ka point ana bro .. pero purgatory nga word naa jud na cia sa Roman Catholic nga Bible ... sa lain nga interpretation dili purgatory nakabutang ... but almost pariha .. naka read ko ana kay gi pa read kos kauban nako nga member anang Catholic Reformist .. limot lang ko sa verse ... dili sab ko interested ..

    mga Catholic defender naa cla mga verse pud sa New Testament but para nako dili jud maka manifest nga purgatory ... ang ilaha reason is parihas sa Trinity nga wala sa Bible pag interpret lang ... tinood sab na nga sa una panahon naa na cia nga Tradition ang Purgatory .... its a place jud na cia not just imaginary ...


    bro dont tell me nga dli pareha ug bible ang cotholic sa protestnt...kung mao na bro dnt tell me they dnt have d same God na ila gi-worship....dba da deffination sa bible word of god? .....

    <peace>

  6. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    Porgatory - from tha latin word "purgare" to make clean, to purify...

    This is one of many bible passages which appear to support porgatory.

    (Revelation 21:27) states that no impure person will enter heaven. "But nothing unclean shall enter it..." Some reason that if a person dies with some minor sins still on their record, then they are obviously not pure; they must go to some place to be refined until they can attain heaven.

    naka read ko ana bro ... daghan gihapon supak ana .. kay unsaon man pag refined sa tawo nga namatay na ...

    daghan gihapon supak ana .

  7. #67

    Default Re: porgatoryo

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    Porgatory - from tha latin word "purgare" to make clean, to purify...

    This is one of many bible passages which appear to support porgatory.

    (Revelation 21:27) states that no impure person will enter heaven. "But nothing unclean shall enter it..." Some reason that if a person dies with some minor sins still on their record, then they are obviously not pure; they must go to some place to be refined until they can attain heaven.

    so you mean bro this world is the porgatory.. ky in this world raman ta naa chance to choice bad and good dba?

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    naka read ko ana bro ... daghan gihapon supak ana .. kay unsaon man pag refined sa tawo nga namatay na ...

    daghan gihapon supak ana .
    as wat i uderstand sa iya bro na mentras bnuhi pata magtarung nata...ang patay la na chance kung bad xa ..emperno na gyud...

  9. #69

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    http://www.dtl.org/catholicism/emails/apocrypha.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv

    bro dont tell me nga dli pareha ug bible ang cotholic sa protestnt...kung mao na bro dnt tell me they dnt have d same God na ila gi-worship....dba da deffination sa bible word of god? .....

    <peace>
    Kanang Apocrypha gi kuha na sa Protestant because of some reason .... parihas ra gihapon bro parihas rata ug Ginoo ...

    naa ko isa na basa ...

    Second, some of the Apocrypha books were written in Greek, not Hebrew. So they are distinguished from the Hebrew Scriptures. This would relate back to point one.

    Third, Jesus seems to exclude the Apocrypha in his statement in Luke 11:51 - "from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation" (NKJV).

    The death of Abel is recorded in Genesis, the first book in the Hebrew canon. The death of Zechariah is included in 2Chronicles, the last book in the Hebrew canon (the order of books is different from the order they are in today). So this seems to confirm the Jewish canon as being the correct one.


  10. #70

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    Quote Originally Posted by geremarv
    as wat i uderstand sa iya bro na mentras bnuhi pata magtarung nata...ang patay la na chance kung bad xa ..emperno na gyud...
    lawgawa aning tawo bro sa Mysterio man kaau !! NGANO MAN .... unya ra cguro ta maka prove ug naa natas Emperno ani ... maka ingon jud ta nga maypa nag tinarong kos Ginoo nag cge raman ko atik2x niya oi di man diay mo sakay ... faetz



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