God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

[ej___]

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God as a Supreme being is a Mystery.

No man can ever dig deeper on Gods Wisdom and knowledge with regards to his creations.

It will all end up a Big Question mark. Many human beings attempts to unveil the truth about God. But, they end up convincing themselves the opposite thought about God because they can't find the Truth. If it happened that their beliefs are really that powerful and convincing, millions of people might turn their backs from God as the Supreme Being. I can recall some verse that it has been properly stated on the Holy Bible consistently, that God's wisdom cannot be surpassed.

Why would one challenge that thought?

Or, are they just too conceited to think that they are too knowledgeable on the human way of thinking to prove that it is incorrect.

Maybe, they just hate God and the thought about having a God. Well, i don't know which is which.

[JX]

daghana opinions wui.. nwei got to respect that.. (God or gods)
back to the topic; for me there is still a Higher Supreme Being who created heaven & earth.
coz if to choose between theorists or evolutionists and einstein (a physicist who developed the special and general theories of relativity and won the Nobel Prize for Physics for his explanation of the photoelectric effect and is generally considered the most influential physicist of the 20th century, who looked to the stars and believed that there is still a Supreme Being who created all this stuff, ad2 nlng ko einstein tuo.. hehehe.. :mrgreen:
& for me;
"one has got nothing to loose for disbelieving but eternity otherwise ridicule to himself"

[anti-christ]

@munzter666,

i know what god of the gap means,hehe. Its that aspect of chrsitian theology that says if there is something that cant be explain by nature or science then God must have caused it.

I know evolutionist do not believe in it but they too have a different theory in trying to fill that gap and its called the MILLION of millions of millions of year theory.

let me illustrate...
god of the gap goes like this...how did the world came into existence? tries to look for answers in science and finds out that science holds no answer goes back and answered "it must be god/God".

million of millions of millions theory(an evolutionist version of god of the gap) goes like this... Hey science man how did the big bang staRTED? tries to expalin it scientifically but caught up because logic would tell him that chemicals cant create life and "something" cant be the cause of "nothingness" fills the gap by saying...It took Millions of millions of milions of years to create existence and life. hmmm actually what he is saying is " im not rerally sure or i dont have a scientifice model on how existence came to be.

i dont have a problem really with these theories. what i believe in is that, whatever cause of this "existence" we can qualify it as God/god" and i rather call it X.

who sez that there has to be one(god)?
who sez there cant be one?

ahh yes, the god did it card...or god must did it!?hehehe
Again argument from incredulity. I can't explain it so GOD DID IT!
have you ever heard of Occram's razor?
By Occam's razor, "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity"
While Occam's razor cannot prove God's nonexistence, it does imply that, in the absence of compelling reasons to believe in God, disbelief should be preferred.
Occam's razor does not solve the problem, it is merely a decision-making rule-of-thumb

simply saying,
This is often paraphrased as "All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the right one," or alternately, "we should not assert that what we do not have some proof for."e.g. god

God as a Supreme being is a Mystery.

No man can ever dig deeper on Gods Wisdom and knowledge with regards to his creations.

It will all end up a Big Question mark. Many human beings attempts to unveil the truth about God. But, they end up convincing themselves the opposite thought about God because they can't find the Truth. If it happened that their beliefs are really that powerful and convincing, millions of people might turn their backs from God as the Supreme Being. I can recall some verse that it has been properly stated on the Holy Bible consistently, that God's wisdom cannot be surpassed.

Why would one challenge that thought?

Or, are they just too conceited to think that they are too knowledgeable on the human way of thinking to prove that it is incorrect.

Maybe, they just hate God and the thought about having a God. Well, i don't know which is which.

i mentioned this before:

The moment a fundie, jesus freak tries to talk to you about "God's plans", he is implicitly claiming that he knows the mind and motives of God. Of course, the moment his claims fall under unassailable logic, he tries to say that "no one" can know how God thinks and that human logic does not apply to God. And then they do an about-face again and talk about how 'intelligent design' being comprehensible is proof of a creator.

fundies would always tell us that their god's way of thinking is higher than ours and therefore their god's reasoning is incomprehensible by human standards. but these are also the same fundies that preach us what they firmly believe are God's true intentions and reasons!!!

[shoeless_rebel]

nobody can prove nor disprove the existence of a god...

[anti-christ]

If god and his ways can't be measured by man's reasoning, then he's no different from blind chance. Which is way better since blind chance doesn't claim to be all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-loving.

hehehe

[ej___]

FAITH. That's the word that some people can't accept. Because for them, Faith without evidence is delusion. For that, they can't accept that there is a God.

Physical EVIDENCE is what they need and thats the concrete proof for them to believe that He exist.

They value the science of existence for everything.

Well, its nice to have this people around. Its not a perfect world anyway.

Below is something to read and for the unbelievers to think and answer some questions . . . .

From New York Times. 9-5-2007
"so where did the sun and the mother cloud come from? And what set the whole thing revolving?"
{Big Bang theory? hmm}

"'Universe'' used to mean everything that exists. To even think about this new scheme of things, the definition must be weakened to ''everything that we can get information about.'' We are required to believe in -- take on faith -- that there is something outside the universe. Might as well just call it God."

Whether the multiverse theory is more comforting than believing that human existence results from a senseless crapshoot or a holy decree is a matter of taste, not science. For many theorists it is also a betrayal of the great effort to explain the laws of physics. Some still hope to find ''a theory of the initial conditions of the universe,'' a supreme mathematical law, hidden perhaps in superstring theory, showing that the parameters of creation could have been set only in a certain way.

But then they would have to find a law to explain where the law came from . . . and ultimately an explanation of why the universe is mathematical and of where mathematics came from and what numbers are.

Like a petulant 8-year-old, we keep asking why, why, why, why. In the end, the answer is either ''just because'' or ''for God made it so.'' Take your pick. "

We can also ask the following and personally set your mind on what you believe.
1. Who made the universe?
2. Who made the planets?
3. Who made the living things?
4. Who educate man long time ago to know and reason out now like unbelieving that there is a Supreme being?

And so on . . . .

[JX]

If god and his ways can't be measured by man's reasoning, then he's no different from blind chance. Which is way better since blind chance doesn't claim to be all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-loving.

hehehe

chosen few may be the appropriate word..
and in God's time..

"man's reasoning"

Long time ago, earth was believed to be flat but not until Aristotle of Stagira (384 - 322 BC) said otherwise. He even quoted good proof of that, such as "the fact that the shadow of the Earth that the Moon passes through during a lunar eclipse is always round".
Then Orville and Wilbur harnessed mechanical fixed wing flight, also known as the Wright Brothers. Which back then, was heavily argued not possible(aerial flight).
Also there was british molecular biologist Maurice Wilkins w/ Francis Crick and James Watson, whom together worked and won a nobel prize for physiology for their discoveries concerning the molecular structure of nucleic acids and its significance for information transfer in living material, more known as DNA.. which today, pointed out that somewhere, sometime, there was mother eve. known to researchers today as "Mitochondrial Eve", the woman who is defined as the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for all living humans. Passed down from mothers to offspring for over a hundred thousand years, her mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is now found in all living humans: every mtDNA in every living person is derived from hers.
Leads us back to the Bible then, which has been trying to tell us that there is a Supreme Being.

"one has got nothing to loose for disbelieving but eternity otherwise ridicule to himself"

[anti-christ]

FAITH. That's the word that some people can't accept. Because for them, Faith without evidence is delusion. For that, they can't accept that there is a God.

Physical EVIDENCE is what they need and thats the concrete proof for them to believe that He exist.

They value the science of existence for everything.

Well, its nice to have this people around. Its not a perfect world anyway.

Below is something to read and for the unbelievers to think and answer some questions . . . .

From New York Times. 9-5-2007
"so where did the sun and the mother cloud come from? And what set the whole thing revolving?"
{Big Bang theory? hmm}

"'Universe'' used to mean everything that exists. To even think about this new scheme of things, the definition must be weakened to ''everything that we can get information about.'' We are required to believe in -- take on faith -- that there is something outside the universe. Might as well just call it God."

Whether the multiverse theory is more comforting than believing that human existence results from a senseless crapshoot or a holy decree is a matter of taste, not science. For many theorists it is also a betrayal of the great effort to explain the laws of physics. Some still hope to find ''a theory of the initial conditions of the universe,'' a supreme mathematical law, hidden perhaps in superstring theory, showing that the parameters of creation could have been set only in a certain way.

But then they would have to find a law to explain where the law came from . . . and ultimately an explanation of why the universe is mathematical and of where mathematics came from and what numbers are.

Like a petulant 8-year-old, we keep asking why, why, why, why. In the end, the answer is either ''just because'' or ''for God made it so.'' Take your pick. "

We can also ask the following and personally set your mind on what you believe.
1. Who made the universe?
2. Who made the planets?
3. Who made the living things?
4. Who educate man long time ago to know and reason out now like unbelieving that there is a Supreme being?

And so on . . . .

It's also equivalent saying "I'd rather imply I have a deceitful God than try to think for myself."
see Occam's razor

its like saying "i dont know the answer...God did it!"

how in the world will you know the answer if you keep adding illusionary figures.
*"entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity"

[anti-christ]

"one has got nothing to loose for disbelieving but eternity otherwise ridicule to himself"

prove eternity

[Sinyalan]

"one has got nothing to loose for disbelieving but eternity otherwise ridicule to himself"

prove eternity

uhhh, it's in the bible?