WITCHES and WARLOCKS...are they the minions of the Devil?

[BushidoFMA]

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I think Mr. Ho_Chia does have a point.

Witches curse thats why they go by that name.

These people who thinks that they are practicing witchcraft,draws circle,chanting words taken from book that can be found in national bookstore or in some new age bookstore are really misguided and misinformed.

If you want to be a witch you got to have the blood of a witch that belongs to the ancient practitioner of the craft. In Philippine context you need to have the mambabarang's blood(descendant or close relative).

You dont learn withcraft in books found in bookstores. This is a very secretive society you got to be in the real circle and initiation must be genuine. Not only that some even observed fasting and abstaining certain foods and pleasures. These people are very religious.

But what do we find in most youth wannabes witches daw. They cant even restrain themselves from not eating certain type of foods.

They come in groups formed their circles do their rituals then they walk as if they are the most powerful human alive in the planet hahahaha. Their eyes are blazing with fury sending message to the uninitiated not to mess with them or else Hexes will come upon them.

They proudly hang their pentagrams "see im a witch". Get over it people.

its better for them to call themselves "admirers of witchcraft" rather than call themselves witches. But if you have the blood your lola,mama,aunt taught you some oracion and latin then you are the real thing. And if you are the real thing I know you wont brag about it traces of witchy aura can hardly be seen in you.

[BushidoFMA]

@Tulisan666

Yep i read their books and i dont know what warlock is, i mean i knowwhat warlock means but idont know if they actually exist.

At about wiccans being burn by the church? thats not true.

They were not wiccans.

[tagur0]

ang wiccans karon gikan pa ba na sa lineage sa karaan? or modern wiccans nana karon?

[tulisan666]

@Tulisan666

Yep i read their books and i dont know what warlock is, i mean i knowwhat warlock means but idont know if they actually exist.

At about wiccans being burn by the church? thats not true.

They were not wiccans.

honestly, its so elementary...witch=woman as to warlock=man and you read books.hehehe

feast your eyes on this then

Persecution of Witches & Witchcraft
383 Priscillian of Avila was executed. He was accused of Manichaeism, but the official reason for burning him was witchcraft.
906 Canon Eposcopi, a collection of church laws, appeared. It declared that belief in witchcraft was heretical.
1022 A group of pious and ascetic mystics who denied key tenets of Christianity were burned as witches in Orleans. Contemporary Christian writers branded them as Devil worshippers who indulged in *** orgies and the murder of children - standard accusations for all dissident groups at the time.
1141 Hugh of St. Victor wrote Didascalicon, which included a strong denunciation of using or studying magic:

Magic was not accepted as part of philosophy, but stands with a false claim outside it; the mistress of every form of iniquity and malice, lying about the truth and truly infecting men's minds, it seduces them from divine religion, prompts them from the cult of demons, fosters corruption of morals, and impels the minds of its devotees to every wicked and criminal indulgence. ... Sorcerers were those who, with demonic incantations or amulets or any other execrable types of remedies, by the cooperation of the devils or by evil instinct, perform wicked things.

1231 Conrad of Marburg was appointed as the first Inquisitor of Germany, setting a pattern of persecution. In his reign of terror, he claimed to have uncovered many nests of "Devil worshippers" and adopted the motto of:

We would gladly burn a hundred if just one of them was guilty.

1233 Pope Gregory IX proclaimed Conrad of Marburg a champion of Christendom and promoted his findings in the Papal Bull Vox in Rama.
1258 Pope Alexander IV declared that Inquisitors should not concern themselves with divination, but only those which "manifestly savored of heresy."
1280 First appearance of images of a witch riding a broom.
1320 Pope John XXII authorized the Inquisition to began persecuting sorcery and witchcraft.
1324 - 1325 Lady Alice Kyteler, her son and associates in Kilkenny, Ireland, were tried for witchcraft. For the first time, stories of mating with demons were linked with stories of pacts with Satan. Lady Alice escaped to England, but others were burned.
1398 The theology faculty at the University of Paris declared that all forms of magic or divination involved some sort of pact with the devil and were thus heresy, justifying the persecution of every possible sort of witchcraft.
1428 Witch trials of Brianqon took place in the Dauphine. About 167 local people were burned as witches between 1428 and 1450.
1431 Trial of Joan of Arc took place and included allegations of witchcraft.
1440 Notorious trial of Gilles de Rais, who was accused of witchcraft and debaucheries.
1484 Papal Bull Summis desiderantes was issued by Pope Innocent VIII, authorizing Jakob Sprenger, Dean of Cologne University, and Prior Heinrich Kramer, both Dominican monks, to systematize and categorize the persecution of witches.
1486 Publication of Malleus Maleficarum (Hammer of Witches) by Sprenger and Kramer. Based upon their experiences in Germany, this manual for witch hunters ran to 40 editions. In their opinion, witchcraft was based upon sexual lust:

All witchcraft comes from carnal lust, which was in women insatiable.



In an interesting twist, it was now declared that not believing in witches was heresy:

A belief that there were such things as witches was so essential a part of Catholic faith that obstinately to maintain the opposite opinion savours of heresy.

1488 Papal Bull was issued, calling upon European nations to rescue the church because it was "imperiled by the arts of Satan."
1490 King Charles VIII issued an edict against fortunetellers, enchanters, necromancers and others engaging in any sort of witchcraft.
1508 Mass witch trials in Biarn occurred.
1529 Inquisitorial witchcraft trials took place at Luxeuil.
1532 Declaration of the Carolina Code in Germany which imposed the penalties of torture and death for witchcraft. This code was technically adopted by the 300-odd small independent states which comprise the Holy Roman Empire.
1542 Henry VIII issued a statute against witchcraft.
1547 Repeal of statute of 1542 during the reign of Edward VI.
1557 Toulouse witch trials took place, during which forty witches were condemned and burned.
1563 Queen Elizabeth issued a statute against witchcraft.

Johan Weyer wrote De Praestigiis Daemonum. This book described his belief that witches were just mentally disturbed old women and that it was the belief in witches which was caused by Satan. He was forced to leave the Netherlands and his book was denounced by Jean Bodin.
1563 Council of Trent resolved to win back Germany from Protestantism to the Catholic Church; intensification of religious struggles and persecutions results.
1566 The first Chelmsford witch trials. This trial was the first to appear in a secular court in England and resulted in the first woman being hanged for witchcraft, Agnes Waterhouse. This trial also produced the first chapbook, or tabloid newspaper, relating to witchcraft.
1579 The Windsor witch trials; also the second Chelmsford trials.
1580 Jean Bodin, a French judge, published Daemonomanie des Sorciers condemning witches. According to Bodin, those denying the existence of witches were actually witches themselves.
1582 St. Osyth Witches of Essex (case tried at Chelmsford).
1584 Publication of Discovery of Witchcraft by the skeptic Reginald Scot who argued that witches might not exist after all.
1589 Third Chelmsford witch trials.
1589 Fourteen convicted witches at Tours appealed to King Henry III, who was in turn accused of protecting witches.
1590 William V began a witch hunt in Bavaria.

The North Berwick witch trials began when an alleged coven of witches was exposed in 1590-91, resulting in Scotland's most celebrated witch trials and executions. King James VI (who became James I of England), a devout believer in witches, even took part in the proceedings. The torture applied to the victims was among the most brutal in Scotland's entire history of witchcraft prosecution.
1592 Father Cornelius Loos wrote of those arrested and accused of witchcraft:

Wretched creatures were compelled by the severity of the torture to confess things they have never done... and so by the cruel butchery innocent lives were taken; and, by a new alchemy, gold and silver are coined from human blood.

1593 Warboys witches of Huntingdon were put on trial.
1597 Publication of Demonology by James VI of Scotland (later James I of England).
1597 Case of the Burton Boy (Thomas Darling) in Staffordshire.
1604 James I released his statute against witchcraft, in which he wrote that they were "loathe to confess without torture."
1604 Case of the Northwich Boy.
1605 Abingdon witches and Anne Gunter.
1612 Lancashire witch trials.
1616 Case of the Leicester Boy (John Smith).
1618 Start of the Thirty Years War (1618-164 during which the witch hunt throughout Germany was at its height.
1620 Case of the Bilson Boy (William Perry).
1625 Start of general decline of witch trials in France.
1628 Trial of Johannes Junius, mayor of Bamberg, for witchcraft.
1631 Publication of Cautio Criminalis by Friedrich von Spee, opposing the witch hunt.
1632 Death of the Prince-Bishop of Bamberg marked the end of the persecutions in this principality (1609-1632).
1645 Case of the Faversham witches, Kent Witchfinder-general Matthew Hopkins and the Chelmsford (or Manningtree) witch trials.
1646 Death of Matthew Hopkins from tuberculosis.
1647 Publication of Discovery of Witches by Matthew Hopkins.
1649 Case of the St. Albans witches, Hertfordshire.
1652 "Dr. Lamb's Darling": the trial of Anne Bodenham and the trial of the Wapping Witch (Joan Peterson) near London.
1655 Last execution for witchcraft in Cologne (where persecution was already less severe).
1662 The Bury St. Edmunds witch trials.
1670 Rouen witch trials.
1674 Trial of Anne Foster in Northampton.
1679 - 1682 The notorious Chanibre d'ardente affair: Louis XIV's star chamber investigated poison plots and heared evidence of widespread corruption and witchcraft. More than 300 people were arrested and 36 executed. The affair ended with a royal edict which denied the reality of witchcraft and sorcery.
1684 Last execution for witchcraft in England (Alice Molland at Exeter).
1712 Jane Wenham of Walkern in Herefordshire was last person convicted of witchcraft in England.
1722 Last execution for witchcraft in Scotland.
1736 Repeal of Statute of James 1 (1604).
1745 Last execution for witchcraft in France (of Father Louis Debaraz at Lyons).
1775 Last official execution for witchcraft in Germany (of Anna Maria Schwiigel at Kempten in Bavaria).
1787 All witchcraft laws in Austria were repealed.
1928 A family of Hungarian peasants were acquitted of beating an old woman to death whom they thought was a witch. The court used as an excuse the argument that the family acted out of "irresistible compulsion."
1976 A poor woman in Germany was suspect of keeping dogs as familiars (devil's agents). Neighbors ostracized her, threw rocks at her, threatened to beat her to death, and finally burned down her house, badly burning her and killing all the animals.
1977 In France, a mob killed an old man suspected of sorcery.
1981 A mob in Mexico stoned to death a woman suspected of witchcraft.

who the hell started the witch hunt.

[tulisan666]

ow a male witch i supposed, tama ba? practical atheist, meaning atheist at times and at times not? how convenient, lame excuses of people who doesn't know where they stand, confused and uncertain. supposed to be a master of themselves yet in the end find something and someone to cling on. the fact remains that some people are just so arrogant that they doesn't concede to their weakness and emptiness and blanket cover it with rage and anger, blasphemous in all their ways, always find fault in everyone for their hearts are filled with pride and they think they have open mind yet it is as closed as a locked box considering the very perspective they took.

and for some people to declare what a so-called "self-righteous characteristics" unfolding seems to me assuming superiority of himself considering the very statement he made. yet in the end stoop to low down below that resulted in an uncalled for, manner of utterance such as seen clearly in a distasteful statement made that is reflective of oneself.

is it then a problem to a witch and a "male-witch" if being ask what they are chanting about? what and where the source of their so called "power/S"?

and they don't curse? they don't seek destructions of their enemies? that's all in the movies? ow stop lying please. go ask yourself-- what an extreme witch/withces can do, the practices in their respective covens. lest you stay but a mere weakling still wannabe witch after so long a time.

and your right you don't need to ask me that, I very well know it aint the GOD of the BIBLE considering the statement came from a practical and an extreme fanatic atheist. that question was meant for you to answere. do you know for whom and from where?

an atheist who doesn't acknowledge any diety ever, now becoming a reluctant atheist, is that it?

human rights: everybody is innocent unless proven guilty. *you assume to much, and rush to your own conclusions...

i mentioned this earlier...i have nothing against wiccan, witches, warlocks... and now you label me as one. dude, something's wrong with you. she is a practical atheist...me i'm a different type of atheist. we dont have to elaborate more on that...you dont know the difference that's your loss...your post gets more pointless.hehehe

the fact remains that some people are just so arrogant that they doesn't concede to their weakness and emptiness and blanket cover it with rage and anger, blasphemous in all their ways, always find fault in everyone for their hearts are filled with pride and they think they have open mind yet it is as closed as a locked box considering the very perspective they took.

i'm sorry, you have to stop describing yourself.

and your right you don't need to ask me that, I very well know it aint the GOD of the BIBLE considering the statement came from a practical and an extreme fanatic atheist. that question was meant for you to answere. do you know for whom and from where?

why should i answer that...im not a practitioner. but rockart already answered that anyway...dont you read her posts?

@bushido

They proudly hang their pentagrams "see im a witch". Get over it people

do you know what a pentagram is? the imposed inverted star...it was the sign of venus, a goddess.
the church did abolish the sects with goddesses...they did not want women interfering. and who do you think made the pentagram in the image of the devil? the church.hehehe*(same goes to Baal, that god had a colorful history...thanks to the church, overnight naging inclined na with the devil)hahaha

[BushidoFMA]

@Tulisan666

Thank you for those datas. It totally supports my position that no wiccans were burned during that time but only witches.

And you actually believe that all those people who gut burned and convicted were practitioners of witchcraft? The church got corrupt at that time snatching properties left and right. Her hungry for power was so deep that she went to accussing, conspiring and falsifying evidence just so to convict any pagan and even rich christian for practicing witchcraft cos conviction would mean confiscation of lands and properties.

FYI a pentagram is not an inverted star. It is a star! er, maybe you mean an inverted pentagram?

So much misinformation from a guy who calls himself Tulisan666. tsk tsk!


By the way there is no such thing as a warlock. A male witch is called a witch.

[tulisan666]

Thank you for those datas. It totally supports my position that no wiccans were burned during that time but only witches.

read again. they did'nt have to say they were wiccans.
*not all witches are wiccans, but all wiccans are witches.

Her hungry for power was so deep that she went to accussing, conspiring and falsifying evidence just so to convict any pagan and even rich christian for practicing witchcraft cos conviction would mean confiscation of lands and properties.

thats one of their tactics/dirty deeds, but not all of those people persecuted own lands nor lived lavishly.

[BushidoFMA]

Thank you for those datas. It totally supports my position that no wiccans were burned during that time but only witches.

read again. they did'nt have to say they were wiccans.
*not all witches are wiccans, but all wiccans are witches.

Her hungry for power was so deep that she went to accussing, conspiring and falsifying evidence just so to convict any pagan and even rich christian for practicing witchcraft cos conviction would mean confiscation of lands and properties.

thats one of their tactics/dirty deeds, but not all of those people persecuted own lands nor lived lavishly.

You got it all mixed up bro.hehe

I think it goes this way..."A wiccan can be a witch but not all witches are wiccans"

[tulisan666]

huwat!?

imo rang gi bali akong gi sulti...its pretty much the same thing.
"A wiccan can be a witch but not all witches are wiccans"

not all witches are wiccans, but all wiccans are witches

hehehe

[BushidoFMA]

hahahahaahah

Wala na baliha bro oi.

Tan awa pag usab.

ang imo kay mao ni..."Not all witches are wiccans, but all wiccans are witches" after sa comma ka na sayop sa ikaduhang point.

mao ni ang ako..." A wiccan can be a witch but not all witches are wiccans".

Ni agree ta nga NOT ALL Witches are wiccans BUT wala ta mag agree sa ALL WICCANS are witches kay ang ako is A wiccan can be a witch(not all).

for example kanang mga witch sa siquijor dili man na cla mga wiccans. :P hehe