Appeal to our Business Owners - Please Give Consumers a Choice to Buy NON-CHINA Made!

[MeMing]

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how can we have Philippine made products.. if we dont have a noticeable manufacturing base?
we need to have filipino owned manufacturing plants , and more manufacturing plants..

dpat dli nta sge ug consume ug goods sa other countries ug mgProduce nta ug ato own goods for ourselves.. tsk.. like the Filipino First policy of president Carlos Garcia in d old days..tsk

nowadays, if say "manufacturing" is not a skill we have a competitive advantage to speak of, it's naturally wiser to outsource this or any other part of a business for that matter. Just not to a country that will hunt us for doing so like China.

[chken]

Don't buy Kim Chiu

[mckoy_slipstream]

I don't think anybody is saying this will cripple china.

With regards to it being wrong, that depends on the person. I for one don't think it's right to give China more power by supporting them.

And being a realist, I didn't say that chinese as a businessmen stop doing business at all. Not even filipinos to stop doing business if all they have are china-made goods. All I'm saying is, give the consumers a choice to not buy china-made goods.

Ergo, businesses are of course free to trade what products they want but if it's not too much to ask, give consumers the choice to buy products not made in china as well for whatever purpose doing so will serve the consumers. As for me, I feel better knowing I am not giving China more of the power that they now wield and enforce unto their neighbors.

As for you, buy all the china-made products that you want. We are still a free country.

do i really have a choice? give people choice. okey, well dwell into that. what choices are there? lets start with celfones. have you ever bought a celfone without china parts on it? let's progress to dvd players, motherboards, cpu, gpu, cooling fans, power supply, monitors, led tv, mouse, keyboard, ballpen, white ink. i wont waste time avoiding chinese products for such purpose that china may invade us, its too inconvenient and unproductive if i really need such product.

di fault ng china na marami silang factories, even sa backroads and slump. and di rin fault ng maraming pinoy if puro chinese products nabibili nila. the same in the states and other parts of the world. dominant ang china made kasi most of major brands have conracts with chinese manufacturing firms. majority of branded items from apple, dell, acer, hp, ibm are packaged and shipped to china for final touches.

say we stop buying chinese products, as in zero, but still, our local exporters still send raw materials to china for processing.

China catching fast as top export market-21food.com

"Fresh fruits, processed foods, canned goods, commodities and minerals like gold, copper, chrome and nickel are some of the biggest products and raw materials shipped from the Philippines to the ports of Hong Kong and the China mainland."

gold - use for electronics, aerospace, Uses of Gold in Industry, Medicine, Computers, Electronics, Jewelry

copper - manufacturing, power generation, transportation, cooling systems, just to name a few
Uses of Copper | Supply, Demand, Production, Resources

nickel - ship propellers, chemical plumbing, rechargeable batteries
Nickel Minerals,Nickel Properties,Nickel Uses,Nickel Information,Nickel Suppliers

with chrome, im not entirely an expert here, and i dont know what chrome is use for, not the chrome browser of course.

so, even if we stop buying china made products, we are still giving them the power to manufacture whatever they want, may it be for weapons or something else, using our very own resources. how's that?

[MeMing]

how's that? well, we are earning from them more than they are earning from us. Although you have a point that they will have the power to use in any way they want our resources I give you that. Now here's a question for you? Can you control this? I doubt. Unless of course you own a scrap business which not many of us do.

Now in terms of buying, can you do something about it? Can your relatives do something about it? Can your friends do something about it? Hell yeah. Anybody can do something about this. Although as what I have been reiterating, this won't be easy in this day and age where the world is plagued with china-made products. But I don't think its impossible.

Again, I'm not asking for your or anybody else to not buy china-made products. I'm just asking business owners to give consumers a choice to buy non-china made goods (if this is at all possible in their business - this alone I know should be hard. but at least i'm shooting the idea out there for business owners to at least see it. we have an opinion, use it.).

PS: Regarding your question about a non-china made phone, my samsung galaxy s2 is made in vietnam with parts from south korea. at least that's what it says (who knows really where it came from right?)...

[Joseph20102011]

Almost impossible, tanang produkto gi-asemble sa China although ang ubang mga materials gikan sa US ug Europe.

Mobile phone, PC, Tablets, Laptops and other gadgets are almost assembled in China!

[Joseph20102011]

how can we have Philippine made products.. if we dont have a noticeable manufacturing base?
we need to have filipino owned manufacturing plants , and more manufacturing plants..

dpat dli nta sge ug consume ug goods sa other countries ug mgProduce nta ug ato own goods for ourselves.. tsk.. like the Filipino First policy of president Carlos Garcia in d old days..tsk

We don't have a noticeable manufacturing bases in our country unlike in China, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, and India because our constitution itself discourages foreigners to invest and own 100% of their businesses on setting-up their manufacturing plant outside the PEZA-designated zones which the result is lack of job opportunities for our people and those who are educated were forced to go abroad for high-paying jobs.

[MeMing]

Almost impossible, tanang produkto gi-asemble sa China although ang ubang mga materials gikan sa US ug Europe.

Mobile phone, PC, Tablets, Laptops and other gadgets are almost assembled in China!

keyword being "ALMOST".

again, samsung galaxy s2 isn't made in china (at least the not the one i'm using).

my western digital network attached storage isn't made in china either...

i'm sure there are many other products that have non-china made counterparts too...

but of course, i for one can name a lot more goods i own that's made in china. liks this macbook pro i'm using now, etc.

[mckoy_slipstream]

okey, business owners? most of them are chinese. we own an office supplies business in makati, and we know a lot going on under the radar. from paper clips to post-it, lahat yan from china and chinese traders. konti lang ang filipino trader sa business na yan. and most of the time, chinese/fil-chinese traders wins bidding for government supplies. and the sad thing, some of these supplies are not authentic. yang mga pilot v5, yung iba nyan, made in china legally, some are just copies.

hard? say sa industry ng office supplies. i dont know the figures, lets just put it sa business namin. we earn roughly 300k cash, 700k average collectible monthly. say, we get the idea, lets cut on chinese products, that would cripple our business, we wont earn the figures i stated.

bottomline: your idea is not only absurd, it will cripple our economy. china goods provides liquidity to our market. they have the factories, we sell products, people buy them, and the cycle goes on.

how are you so sure na we are earning from china the more they are earning from us? just because stated sa article na post ko? the raw materials na gi-send nato didto, naa na sa imong mac, and other china made goods in the market.

say we send them $460M of raw materials, china will process that and distribute products all over the world, and profit from that material.

yang samsung mo na made in vietnam, chances are, some parts of it are from china. do you think na tanan nga prada made sa europe? nope. prada has moved manufacturing from europe to china, but some prada are still made in europe. though that maybe the case for prada, the materials are the same.

what about this: 'Made in Canada' - via China - The Globe and Mail

the article here contains scenarios that could be happening in our country. food products labeled made in canada, but most ingredients are from china.

and "A Canadian producer can source its supplies for cents [in China] rather than for dollars here" the same as "A Filipino producer can source its supplies for cents [in China] rather than for dollars here

china is what it is today because major nations let them be. i understand your concern, but lets be realistic here.

[MeMing]

good morning! i'm always being realistic. that's why i never stated anywhere that businesses stop selling them china-made goods because that is indeed absurd in this day and age.

again, all i am asking is for businesses to give consumers the "option" to buy non-china made.

take for example in your business, say for a ballpen, for sure most of what your selling are china-made. keep that up. my appeal is only for you to at least consider having some ballpens that aren't made in china so as consumers who would say, "naa moy dili made in china nga ballpen" would have a choice.

my wify's family business sells and to a little degree, manufactures marine engine parts and supplies. we sell china made spare parts as well as korea made, japanese made, and taiwan made (still china if you ask me). at least our clients have a choice.

again, in terms of the raw materials, not many of us are in the position to do something about that. but not on buying consumer goods where most pinoys participate in so that's not really helpful in this discussion beyond reference.

[technowar]

God made the world, the rest is made in China.